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Old 01-25-2009, 10:18 AM   #1
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I think its perhaps the worst film I've ever seen. It's on par with Manos: The Hands of Fate in the sheer ugliness at its core, and the parade of pointless sadism is a desperate attempt to hide the fact the film has no real story. Its just a mishmash of improvised scenes with random brutality and degradation. Now, knowing Guccione was a producer on the film, you'd think walking in that its a glorified porn film.

Hardly. The "sex scenes" in this film, if they can be called that, are often as brutal and stomach-turning as the vilolence.

In other words, this is a film so awful and so rotten in its depiction of humanity, that it makes the porn industry look as virtuous as The Sound of Music.
It's statements like these that really sell these kind of movies. If I had never seen the movie and read what you wrote, I would most definitely have bought this one.

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:28 PM   #2
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It's statements like these that really sell these kind of movies. If I had never seen the movie and read what you wrote, I would most definitely have bought this one.

Well, then here's some more free advertising...


Caligula

Release Date: 1980

Ebert Rating: Zero stars

By Roger Ebert / Sep 22, 1980



"Caligula" is sickening, utterly worthless, shameful trash. If it is not the worst film I have ever seen, that makes it all the more shameful: People with talent allowed themselves to participate in this travesty. Disgusted and unspeakably depressed, I walked out of the film after two hours of its 170-minute length. That was on Saturday night, as a line of hundreds of people stretched down Lincoln Ave., waiting to pay $7.50 apiece to become eyewitnesses to shame.

I wanted to tell them ... what did I want to tell them? What I'm telling you now. That this film is not only garbage on an artistic level, but that it is also garbage on the crude and base level where it no doubt hopes to find its audience. "Caligula" is not good art, It is not good cinema, and it is not good porn.

I've never had anything against eroticism in movies. There are X-rated films I've enjoyed, from the sensuous fantasies of "Emmanuelle" to the pop-comic absurdities of Russ Meyer. I assume that the crowds lining up for admission to the Davis Theater were hoping for some sort of erotic experience; I doubt that they were spending $15 a couple for a lesson on the ancient history of Rome.

All I can say is that the makers of "Caligula" have long since lost touch with any possible common erotic denominator, and that they suggest by the contents of this film that they are jaded, perverse and cruel human beings. In the two hours of this film that I saw, there were no scenes of joy, natural pleasure, or good sensual cheer. There was, instead , a nauseating excursion into base and sad fantasies.

You have heard that this is a violent film. But who could have suspected how violent, and to what vile purpose, it really is? In this film, there are scenes depicting a man whose urinary tract is closed, and who has gallons of wine poured down his throat. His bursting stomach is punctured with a sword. There is a scene in which a man is emasculated, and his genitals thrown to dogs, who eagerly eat them on the screen. There are scenes of decapitation, evisceration, rape, bestiality, sadomasochism, necrophilia.

These scenes -- indeed, the movie itself -- reflect a curiously distanced sensibility. Nobody in this film really seems to be there. Not the famous actors like Malcolm McDowell and (very briefly) Peter O'Toole and John Gielgud, whose scenes have been augmented by additional porn shot later with other people and inserted to spice things up. Not the director (who removed his credit from the film). Not the writer (what in the world can it mean that this movie is "Adapted from an Original Screenplay by Gore Vidal"?) Not even the sound track. The actors never quite seem to be speaking their own words, which were so badly dubbed in later that the dialogue never seems to be emerging from the drama itself.

The film even fails to involve itself in the action. "Caligula" has been photographed and directed with such clumsiness and inelegance that pieces of action do not seem to flow together, the plot is incomprehensible, the events are frequently framed as if the camera was not sure where it was, and everything is shot in muddy, ugly, underlit dungeon tones. The music Is also execrable.

So what are we left with? A movie, I am afraid, that may be invulnerable to a review like this one. There are no doubt people who believe that if this movie is as bad as I say it is, it must be worth seeing. People who simply cannot believe any film could be this vile. Some of those people were walking out of the Davis before I did Saturday night; others were sitting, depressed, in the lobby. That should not, I suppose, be surprising.

The human being is a most curious animal. often ready to indulge himself in his base Inclinations, but frequently reluctant to trust his better Instincts. Surely people know, going in, that "Caligula" is worthless. Surely they know there are other movies in town that are infinitely better. Yet here they are at "Caligula." It is very sad.

My friendly recommendation is that they see "The Great Santini," to freshen their minds and learn to laugh and care again in a movie. People learn fast. "This movie," said the lady in front of me at the drinking fountain, "is the worst piece of shit I have ever seen."

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:45 PM   #3
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I found it to be painfully obvious which sex scenes were added after the fact. Very jarring and out of place with the rest of the film. It even looks different, like they used a different type of camera. Pretty sad attempt by Penthouse founder Guccione.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:01 PM   #4
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I've never seen this movie and with all of your comments, I wanna see it now.

Is it really as bad as people say?
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:45 PM   #5
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I've never seen this movie and with all of your comments, I wanna see it now.

Is it really as bad as people say?
It is truly as bad as people say.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:38 PM   #6
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You have heard that this is a violent film. But who could have suspected how violent, and to what vile purpose, it really is? In this film, there are scenes depicting a man whose urinary tract is closed, and who has gallons of wine poured down his throat. His bursting stomach is punctured with a sword. There is a scene in which a man is emasculated, and his genitals thrown to dogs, who eagerly eat them on the screen. There are scenes of decapitation, evisceration, rape, bestiality, sadomasochism, necrophilia.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:12 PM   #7
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I was thinking about adding "Caligula" to my collection.I just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on this movie.
Very disappointed that I bought it. I thought it was looked down on for it's over the top sexual content and alleged deviance. But it's crappy in Sooooooo many other ways.
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The movie is pretty bad. I'm selling my copy if anyone wants it lol
I'd like to as well, but as it pretty much qualifies as porn, I'm not sure how I'd go about it.

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Pretty sad attempt by Penthouse founder Guccione.
Agreed. Decadent for it's time probably... but *ugh*, I will be ditching this title if I can...
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:37 PM   #8
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HAHA, great! You gotta love trashy movies!

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Old 12-02-2009, 12:35 AM   #9
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I have this film on blu, decent quality....for it's time, it was an amazing film..Still enjoying it..

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The number one reason I bought the BD was for the copious bonus features. The commentaries are wonderful for fans of Malcom McDowell and Helen Mirren. If the disc had just the movie I might have passed on a purchase and rented instead.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:34 AM   #11
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I saw this movie sevral years ago when a friend of mine picked it up on dvd. I liked it then just because it's "all f-ed up!!!"

After all these years (and reading this thread) I am curious to go back and rewatch it now as my tastes have changed considerably since that time...I have a feeling it will not hold up well to my current ideas of what constitutes a good movie or not.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:06 AM   #12
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I bought this title on Blu-ray when I was in college. I am so happy that I watched it while my roommate was asleep. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO!!!
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I ordered the UK version, the PQ is supposed to be a nice improvement.
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I ordered the UK version, the PQ is supposed to be a nice improvement.
I assume that has none of the hardcore in it though?

I'm just asking for, er, research purposes....
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I assume that has none of the hardcore in it though?

I'm just asking for, er, research purposes....
The UK version is the full unrated release, just use the FF button (or pause).
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I assume that has none of the hardcore in it though?

I'm just asking for, er, research purposes....
Well, I thought the movie was hardcore enough!

Forgot this thread so it was a little late response
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I ordered the UK version, the PQ is supposed to be a nice improvement.
Over the US blu-ray, or over the DVD? It's surprising I can't find on the internet anywhere a comparison of bluray editions. I have the regular US "imperial edition" blu-ray, which looks fine considering the source, but would double dip if there is any version with slightly better PQ or especially interesting exclusive extras.
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Over the US blu-ray, or over the DVD? It's surprising I can't find on the internet anywhere a comparison of bluray editions. I have the regular US "imperial edition" blu-ray, which looks fine considering the source, but would double dip if there is any version with slightly better PQ or especially interesting exclusive extras.
Yeah, I would also like to hear some factual information comparing the US "Imperial" blu-ray to the UK Arrow "Blu" edition. I understand the the Arrow doesn't have the commentaries, correct? That alone makes it very unappealing to me, as I have read many great things about the commentaries.

I'm very interested in the extras, also - and I can't tell exactly if the US Imperial edition contains all the available extras. For instance, on this review of the UK DVD, here:

http://www.cineoutsider.com/reviews/...l_edition.html

It lists an extra called:

North American Bonus Footage (31:34)


The North American Bonus Footage is listed as separate from "Deleted & Alternate Scenes (48:08)" and "Behind the Scenes (79:37)", which both seem to be available on the US DVD and Blu-ray sets. The "North American Bonus Footage" apparently has the original audio, yet I can't find that extra listed anywhere for the US Imperial Edition blu-ray set or DVD set. Was this only available on the UK DVD and Blu-ray set?

That region 2 DVD that the above link reviews also lists the commentaries, and the Arrow Blu-ray doesn't have the commentaries, right? So it looks like some extras are missing from the blu-ray maybe? Can anyone chime in?

EDIT: From what I can tell by what I've been able to find out, both the US Imperial DVD and Blu-ray releases have the "Deleted and alternate Scenes" and "Behind the Scenes Footage", but missing the "North American Bonus Footage" found on the UK DVD and Blu-ray set. Can anyone confirm this? How can it be called "North American Bonus Footage" if it doesn't even appear on the US sets?

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Well, then here's some more free advertising...


Caligula

Release Date: 1980

Ebert Rating: Zero stars

By Roger Ebert / Sep 22, 1980
I typically do the opposite as those guys recommended and have always been happy. I own the DVD and I liked the over the top scenes. It was what ancient Greece degrated into plain and simple and mostly accurate.

As far as the Blu being a good transfer, I cant comment.
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I typically do the opposite as those guys recommended and have always been happy. I own the DVD and I liked the over the top scenes. It was what ancient Greece degrated into plain and simple and mostly accurate.

As far as the Blu being a good transfer, I cant comment.
If they were suppose to show ancient Greece then they failed to be accurate, because it's suppose to be a movie about the Roman emperor Caligula.
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