Screenshot Comparisons 4K - Page 57 - Blu-ray Forum

Geoff D · 08-28-2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

Yeah I really gotta disagree with you here. When I A/Bd the discs the uptick in detail was very apparent, especially in highlights. I mentioned this back when it first came out, but there’s an early shot where a car pulls into a garage, and on the UHD you can see all the details of the brake light, but on the BD it’s just a smashed mess of red.

4x chroma resolution does its job then on the occasions that this movie actually displays any saturated colour. But for fine detail, I compared one of the shots when Ben has the sniper rifle and there's a house or barn in the background and the wooden slats were better resolved on the Blu-ray. That ain't right.

brainofj72 · 08-28-2018, 09:38 PM

Hence why I’d love to see some screenshots to help settle this debate.

Geoff D · 08-28-2018, 09:40 PM

At least we won't have to worry about the HDR being poorly converted, there's barely any to speak of

andreasy969 · 08-29-2018, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Collins

I've asked this before, but does anyone have screenshots from "Mamma Mia: The Movie!" in 4K?

I for one still don't own it and still don't intend to buy it. I think I will be buying part 2, because I like Lily James, but that will have to wait since the upcoming months are expensive enough as they are.

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

Have you done The Accountant yet?

Nope - same as Mamma Mia.

But I think I'll be doing some more "now" (I actually got a little tired of it) and people might choose from my current todo list:

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There's no particular order and it may very well be incomplete. I also remove stuff from that list on a regular basis once someone else did at least a few comparisons and I'll also still do new releases first (also put some "lost" comparisons back in there though - Life comes to mind). Some have such low priority for myself for several reasons that I may politely decline for now though (but will take note at any rate).

TheSweetieMan · 08-29-2018, 08:31 AM

Patriots Day caps would definitely be cool to compare. It’s a gorgeous UHD disc.

andreasy969 · 08-29-2018, 02:04 PM

OK, Patriots Day will be next then. Would've been one of my next picks as well since I'm interested myself (only watched the UHD and never compared).

Geoff D · 08-29-2018, 04:31 PM

Would love to see Star Trek Beyond given the andreas treatment.

barrett75 · 08-29-2018, 04:37 PM

it would be so useful to have an OP or any other post somewhere with links for all the comparisons of this thread... is it possible?

chip75 · 08-29-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett75

it would be so useful to have an OP or any other post somewhere with links for all the comparisons of this thread... is it possible?

Here's a link to andreasy969's comparisons https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=46604071, but bear in mind that's just searching for their username plus the word disclaimer. Other members have submitted valuable contributions as well.

andreasy969 · 08-29-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Would love to see Star Trek Beyond given the andreas treatment.

Will do it next then, but I guess only next weekend.

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Originally Posted by UpsetSmiley

Thanks for that, can always rely on you. It looks good enough, par cap 3 which looks unnaturally smooth (DNR?). The BD looks washed out at times whilst the UHD looks far too dark. I'm not certain about this one.

I'll say there is now (but as said, I didn't think I was watching a smoothed disc when watching the movie): https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=12248&d2=12247&c=4825

But the UHD gets rid of the compression artefacts. Guess I'm actually glad that I dont have to decide whether or not to upgrade that one.

barrett75 · 08-30-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Here's a link to andreasy969's comparisons https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=46604071, but bear in mind that's just searching for their username plus the word disclaimer. Other members have submitted valuable contributions as well.

thanks Chip, unfortunately your link doesn't work...

chip75 · 08-30-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett75

thanks Chip, unfortunately your link doesn't work...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=46614230

andreasy969 · 08-30-2018, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=46614230

andreasy969 · 08-30-2018, 09:24 PM

Patriots Day

Don't have much time for comments, but the BD really looks just ugly in comparison (!) - and that is even with the SDR conversion. The BD looks flat, too bright and imo sometimes actually loses the proper "daytime tone" (#41). There's plenty more detail in several caps as well (#12, #17, #48 etc. - or just look at the lamp in #4).

I honestly recommend buying Lionsgate UHDs over their respective BDs even if one doesn't have a 4K/HDR display yet like myself (especially since Lionsgate titles tend to translate really good to SDR).

I also have some comments below again and I'd like to point to #47 in particular.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/119430

BD (upscaled) left, UHD-BD (madVR/SDR/200 nits) right

Disclaimer as to why the UHD-BD images may appear to be too dim:

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HD Goofnut · 08-31-2018, 01:36 PM

Well, that proves that Patriot's Day has a well done UHD and BD.

birdztudio · 08-31-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by andreasy969

Below is a complete list of all my comparisons which you won't find with that search.

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appreciated what you've been doing

BrownianMotion · 08-31-2018, 02:36 PM

I've been a big fan of the Patriots Day UHD since it was released. It's on the darker side, to be sure, but the colors are so vibrant when they need to be, and the image is so sharp. Nice HDR throughout that gives the image some nice depth.

andreasy969 · 08-31-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Well, that proves that Patriot's Day has a well done UHD and BD.

Yes, despite my Lionsgate comment, the BD is a rather solid one considering Deepwater Horizon or Hacksaw Ridge.

brainofj72 · 08-31-2018, 04:51 PM

I don’t know if it’s a tone mapping issue or what, but Patriots Day is one of several LG discs (along with Deepwater Horizon and Valerian) that is unwatchably dim unless I crank Dynamic Contrast. I thought it was just my setup but I’ve tried them on multiple TVs and players now and get the same results every time. Something seems really wonky about the HDR encoding.

andreasy969 · 09-01-2018, 04:13 PM

Star Trek: Beyond

Just like the first two, a very nice upgrade as well (detail, color, real HDR). Reg. HDR/highlights, even @200 nits the UHD is often destroying the BD already.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/119534

BD (upscaled) left, UHD-BD (madVR/SDR/200 nits) right

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08-28-2018, 09:38 PM	#1122
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1040 Blu-ray collection:3618 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	Hence why I’d love to see some screenshots to help settle this debate.

08-28-2018, 09:40 PM	#1123
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	At least we won't have to worry about the HDR being poorly converted, there's barely any to speak of

08-29-2018, 08:31 AM	#1125
TheSweetieMan Banned Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:515 Blu-ray collection:515	Patriots Day caps would definitely be cool to compare. It’s a gorgeous UHD disc.

08-29-2018, 02:04 PM	#1126
andreasy969 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:125	OK, Patriots Day will be next then. Would've been one of my next picks as well since I'm interested myself (only watched the UHD and never compared).

08-29-2018, 04:31 PM	#1127
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Would love to see Star Trek Beyond given the andreas treatment.

08-29-2018, 04:37 PM	#1128
barrett75 Special Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	it would be so useful to have an OP or any other post somewhere with links for all the comparisons of this thread... is it possible?

08-30-2018, 09:24 PM	#1134
andreasy969 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:125	Patriots Day Don't have much time for comments, but the BD really looks just ugly in comparison (!) - and that is even with the SDR conversion. The BD looks flat, too bright and imo sometimes actually loses the proper "daytime tone" (#41). There's plenty more detail in several caps as well (#12, #17, #48 etc. - or just look at the lamp in #4). I honestly recommend buying Lionsgate UHDs over their respective BDs even if one doesn't have a 4K/HDR display yet like myself (especially since Lionsgate titles tend to translate really good to SDR). I also have some comments below again and I'd like to point to #47 in particular. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/119430 BD (upscaled) left, UHD-BD (madVR/SDR/200 nits) right Disclaimer as to why the UHD-BD images may appear to be too dim: [Show spoiler] 1. (#3 1000 nits) 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. (#3 1000 nits) 7. 8. 9. 10. (#3 1000 nits) 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. (#3 1000 nits) 19. 20. 21. 22. (#3 1000 nits) 23. (#3 1000 nits) 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. BD having problems with the colors/compression 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. 44. the BD is having some serious problems with the colors/compression in this scene (next two caps) 45. 46. 47. Lionsgate once more with a different master on the UHD and an interesting case at that (I didn't check if there were more like that) 48. 49.

08-31-2018, 01:36 PM	#1135
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Well, that proves that Patriot's Day has a well done UHD and BD.

08-31-2018, 02:36 PM	#1137
BrownianMotion Power Member Member since:Nov 2013	I've been a big fan of the Patriots Day UHD since it was released. It's on the darker side, to be sure, but the colors are so vibrant when they need to be, and the image is so sharp. Nice HDR throughout that gives the image some nice depth.

08-31-2018, 04:51 PM	#1139
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1040 Blu-ray collection:3618 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	I don’t know if it’s a tone mapping issue or what, but Patriots Day is one of several LG discs (along with Deepwater Horizon and Valerian) that is unwatchably dim unless I crank Dynamic Contrast. I thought it was just my setup but I’ve tried them on multiple TVs and players now and get the same results every time. Something seems really wonky about the HDR encoding.

09-01-2018, 04:13 PM	#1140
andreasy969 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2008 Trading Score:125	Star Trek: Beyond Just like the first two, a very nice upgrade as well (detail, color, real HDR). Reg. HDR/highlights, even @200 nits the UHD is often destroying the BD already. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/119534 BD (upscaled) left, UHD-BD (madVR/SDR/200 nits) right Disclaimer as to why the UHD-BD images may appear to be too dim: [Show spoiler] 1. (#3 1000 nits) 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. (#3 1000 nits) 14. (#3 1000 nits) 15. 16. 17. 18. (#3 1000 nits) 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. (#3 1000 nits) 30. (#3 1000 nits) 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36. 37. (#3 1000 nits) 38. (#3 1000 nits) 39. 40. (#3 1000 nits) 41. (#3 1000 nits) 42. (#3 1000 nits) 43. 44. 45. 46. 47. (#3 1000 nits) 48. 49. 50. 51. 52.

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