Halloween 4K UHD (1978) - Page 49 - Blu-ray Forum

KubrickKurasawa · 09-17-2018, 07:07 PM

We all need Psycho in 4k Ultra after this.

Psycho and Halloween were the first 2 Horror films to really push the genre into the modern world.

The Fallen Deity · 09-17-2018, 07:13 PM

The colour timing has been changed again? Hahahaha I'm honestly not surprised.

Halloween must hold the record for the most amount of different colour gradings.

With Alien and Se7en a close second and third respectively.

Colson · 09-17-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

We all need Psycho in 4k Ultra after this.

Psycho and Halloween were the first 2 Horror films to really push the genre into the modern world.

I do love Psycho, and would buy basically any Hitchcock movie in 4K on day one.

KubrickKurasawa · 09-17-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

The colour timing has been changed again? Hahahaha I'm honestly not surprised.

Halloween must hold the record for the most amount of different colour gradings.

With Alien and Se7en a close second and third respectively.

Yeah I'm not sure why this happened, but if I had to guess they do these different color timings because someone thinks it looks fresher and newer. And the original blu ray 25GB or 50Gb with that gens codecs are limited / can't replicate 16mm and up fully I believe...anyway) I think some people think film looks old and not trendy or new enough.

But those colors look blown out to me. They did paint the dead leaves you see for Halloween. They created fall with 3 trashbags of painted leaves lol. Then rebag the leaves for the next shot.

Some great filmakers in the 50's used to paint leaves black so that it would contrast with the whites and greys more. Kazuo Miyagawa.

I want to watch it in Mono with the film negative and the more accurate grain and original director/cinematographer intentions. I prefer friday the 13th part 2 in Mono.

moviebuff75 · 09-17-2018, 07:34 PM

Looks like lossy mono.

ROSS.T.G. · 09-17-2018, 07:37 PM

It wasn’t shot on 16mm. 35mm Panavision

Jpapp25 · 09-17-2018, 08:09 PM

I have a question about the color timing as I don't really know much about how it works, but with a film that was shot darker in many scenes like Halloween, does this give a color grading tech more room to play with different levels as opposed to a more brightly lit film? Or does that not factor in at all? I just figured I'd ask as it seems like an interesting area of film production.

JohnCarpenterLives · 09-17-2018, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dcleve11

FYE has an exclusive steelbook

Not 4k UHD

Agent Kay · 09-17-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Looks like lossy mono.

Are you fupping kidding me?
Lol let's make space for object based ambisonic in 2018

tehthomas · 09-17-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

We all need Psycho in 4k Ultra after this.

I'm not trolling... I love Psycho... but what would the benefit of 4K UHD/HDR be for Psycho or for B&W movies in general?
Can someone enlighten me cause I feel the upgrades are for color.

PowellPressburger · 09-17-2018, 08:28 PM

Really the MONO track on the 4K UHD is going to be DVD quality?

That is just odd, again another distributor releasing a title and they really have no business doing so if they don't know the first thing about the formats of DVD / BLU / 4K UHD

Does it contain an ATMOS track?

They still have plenty of disc space for a PCM MONO track.

however it will get another re-issue in another 3 ish years. Maybe a foreign release will issue a true uncompressed MONO audio track

Agent Kay · 09-17-2018, 08:28 PM

High dynamic range, it's not about colour

Agent Kay · 09-17-2018, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Really the MONO track on the 4K UHD is going to be DVD quality?

That is just odd, again another distributor releasing a title and they really have no business doing so if they don't know the first thing about the formats of DVD / BLU / 4K UHD

Does it contain an ATMOS track?

They still have plenty of disc space for a PCM MONO track.

however it will get another re-issue in another 3 ish years. Maybe a foreign release will issue a true uncompressed MONO audio track

I need shots asap, as the mono may be a deal breaker.

IntelliVolume · 09-17-2018, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant1010

This guy seems to like the transfer. Also interesting that the bluray is the old transfer and not the 35th anniversary edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R15m...ature=youtu.be

Based on this video (and I understand they're just screen grabs devoid of motion), it seems like the 35th Anniversary and 4K release look similar, if the Blu-ray comes off as a bit brighter -- but they're starkly different compared to the original Starz!/Anchor Bay Blu-ray, which I own, as you can clearly see the saturated color points, especially in flesh tones...

I'm going to have to give my original Blu a spin this October 31 to get a feel for that disc's transfer again (I usually gravitate to the THX DVD, even all these years later, because of the color timing on that disc); maybe by that time I'll have a UHD player (still deciding on a "premium" one).

grodd · 09-17-2018, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Looks like lossy mono.

Do we know?
The DVD was 192 kbps.
The last Blu ray was 557 kbps.
The Laserdisc was 768 kbps

Agent Kay · 09-17-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by grodd

Do we know?
The DVD was 192 kbps.
The last Blu ray was 557 kbps.
The Laserdisc was 768 kbps

768? It wasn't DTS

grodd · 09-17-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

768? It wasn't DTS

PCM mono Digital track. (Criterion) 768 Kbps isn't just DTS.

Agent Kay · 09-17-2018, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by grodd

PCM Digital track

Yes....

lilboyblu · 09-17-2018, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Looks like lossy mono.

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Are you fupping kidding me?
Lol let's make space for object based ambisonic in 2018

What?! English Mono (Dolby Digital) has to be a misprint, right?

If worse comes to worse, I already have the Spain import Blu-ray and even that has the original mono in lossless -- English: DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0. It was one I picked up specifically for that reason. Doesn't really help those who want the lossless original track on the 4K though...

JohnCarpenterFan · 09-17-2018, 09:13 PM

So the impression I'm getting from that video is that the color scheme on the 35th and UHD is essentially the same except the 35th looks more saturated.

Far from an ideal comparison but I was expecting the UHD to look like the 35th with more saturation. Not the other way round.

Can't wait to get hold of the disc so I can see what it actually looks like.

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09-17-2018, 07:07 PM	#961
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	We all need Psycho in 4k Ultra after this. Psycho and Halloween were the first 2 Horror films to really push the genre into the modern world.

09-17-2018, 07:13 PM	#962
The Fallen Deity Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Scotland 4K collection:348 Blu-ray collection:1226 DVD collection:112	The colour timing has been changed again? Hahahaha I'm honestly not surprised. Halloween must hold the record for the most amount of different colour gradings. With Alien and Se7en a close second and third respectively.

09-17-2018, 07:34 PM	#965
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:1499 DVD collection:14	Looks like lossy mono.

09-17-2018, 07:37 PM	#966
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	It wasn’t shot on 16mm. 35mm Panavision

09-17-2018, 08:09 PM	#967
Jpapp25 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Illinois 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- MA collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:90	I have a question about the color timing as I don't really know much about how it works, but with a film that was shot darker in many scenes like Halloween, does this give a color grading tech more room to play with different levels as opposed to a more brightly lit film? Or does that not factor in at all? I just figured I'd ask as it seems like an interesting area of film production.

09-17-2018, 08:28 PM	#971
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:991 Blu-ray collection:3676 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	Really the MONO track on the 4K UHD is going to be DVD quality? That is just odd, again another distributor releasing a title and they really have no business doing so if they don't know the first thing about the formats of DVD / BLU / 4K UHD Does it contain an ATMOS track? They still have plenty of disc space for a PCM MONO track. however it will get another re-issue in another 3 ish years. Maybe a foreign release will issue a true uncompressed MONO audio track

09-17-2018, 08:28 PM	#972
Agent Kay Banned Member since:May 2018 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:57	High dynamic range, it's not about colour

09-17-2018, 09:13 PM	#980
JohnCarpenterFan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2015 Blu-ray collection:295	So the impression I'm getting from that video is that the color scheme on the 35th and UHD is essentially the same except the 35th looks more saturated. Far from an ideal comparison but I was expecting the UHD to look like the 35th with more saturation. Not the other way round. Can't wait to get hold of the disc so I can see what it actually looks like.

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