The Fly (1986)

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Hopefully we can get a 4K remaster before Disney buries this movie.

Maybe they'll find a way to turn the film into a theme park ride manned by minimum wage ex-cons and reboot it into another billion-dollar franchise. I think that's why they're buying up everything.

[Nailwraps]

Seriously though, Disney is not going to abandon anything to suitable for kids after the merger. They have Touchstone and ABC, they're keeping Fox Searchlight open, they intend to release all upcoming Fox productions, even Bob Iger stated he would keep Deadpool 2 rated R. So what does that tell you?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

Seriously though, Disney is not going to abandon anything to suitable for kids after the merger. They have Touchstone and ABC, they're keeping Fox Searchlight open, they intend to release all upcoming Fox productions, even Bob Iger stated he would keep Deadpool 2 rated R. So what does that tell you?

Hopefully they keep the Fox label around despite owning it and release adult stuff through it, yes. However since Disney are VERY frugal with catalog releases it's still concerning.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Hopefully they keep the Fox label around despite owning it and release adult stuff through it, yes. However since Disney are VERY frugal with catalog releases it's still concerning.

That's why I'm still buying up Fox stuff that I want to own and finding for cheap. Just got Castaway and Revenge of the Nerds the other day from Wal-Mart for about 6 bucks each. Disney barely puts out their own catalog titles, doubt they will even bother with the Fox stuff (but I'm sure you'll be able to stream it on their service), and if they do the price will probably be jacked up (which if they happened to be remasters then okay, but more than likely it'll just be the same stuff, just more expensive).

[BluCollector13]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

The existing transfer looks pretty good considering how old the disc is, and it's loaded with ALL of the extras from the superb 2-disc DVD set, so I don't really know what Criterion or Scream Factory could add.

Despite loving the earlier release, I'd love a new release with a 4K remaster, the original stereo soundtrack (even with the OTT synth stingers the 5.1 remix removed), new interviews with Cronenberg and the cast and maybe a feature on when "The Fly" became an opera.

* also, with the Cronenberg retrospective being done in LA at the end of the month, perhaps the Q&A that's supposed to be done with Cronenberg, Geena Davis and Howard Shore could be included.

[Nailwraps]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Hopefully they keep the Fox label around despite owning it and release adult stuff through it, yes. However since Disney are VERY frugal with catalog releases it's still concerning.

They have deals with Mill Creek and Kino (the latter also has a deal with Fox).

And of course they're going to keep the Fox label around.

[Indianamcclain]

I went to a 35mm screening of this and noticed several instances where the soundtrack was different. Does anyone know why it was changed for the DVD/Blu-Ray?

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Indianamcclain

I went to a 35mm screening of this and noticed several instances where the soundtrack was different. Does anyone know why it was changed for the DVD/Blu-Ray?

It can happen when a stereo film is remixed for 5.1 audio. Any examples of the differences?

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by Indianamcclain

I went to a 35mm screening of this and noticed several instances where the soundtrack was different. Does anyone know why it was changed for the DVD/Blu-Ray?

Because the home video divisions think they know what's best for us in our homes.
They really need to stop screwing with the soundtracks for home video release, but at this point, where fluctuations between releases, such as mixed volume level, are so far apart that there is apparently no followed standards, tells you all you need to know.

[StingingVelvet]

Even on an enthusiast forum like this the vast majority crave new mixes for even more speakers, so it's not surprising home video departments give them what they want.

[BluCollector13]

Originally Posted by Indianamcclain

I went to a 35mm screening of this and noticed several instances where the soundtrack was different. Does anyone know why it was changed for the DVD/Blu-Ray?

The biggest difference that I know of is the removal of the synth stingers during the last half hour of the film. Maybe when the film was being remastered and restored for the first DVD set, Cronenberg requested their removal because he thought they dated the film.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Even on an enthusiast forum like this the vast majority crave new mixes for even more speakers, so it's not surprising home video departments give them what they want.

Try again. Not what I was talking about, at all.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

Try again. Not what I was talking about, at all.

You're asking why they "mess with" the audio for home releases. I'm telling you why they remix the audio, and changing certain effects or cues are often part of that.

You can't complain about one aspect of home video remixes without accepting it's all revisionist.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

Because the home video divisions think they know what's best for us in our homes.
They really need to stop screwing with the soundtracks for home video release, but at this point, where fluctuations between releases, such as mixed volume level, are so far apart that there is apparently no followed standards, tells you all you need to know.

Who does know what's best for home video?

[JMDiaz718]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Hopefully we can get a 4K remaster before Disney buries this movie.

And featuring the iconic poster art. I'm not sure why Fox, keeps releasing this movie on HD, with a freaking housefly on the cover!!

This masterpiece.......



dropped for this???????? Geez!

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

You're asking why they "mess with" the audio for home releases. I'm telling you why they remix the audio, and changing certain effects or cues are often part of that.

You can't complain about one aspect of home video remixes without accepting it's all revisionist.

I've worked in sound for decades, mainly live sound, but also system installations with some of them being cinemas. So if you're telling me, then you must also have worked in the business?
I don't care if they include mixes for more speakers. They should include the original also in that case, otherwise revisionism is exactly what it is. Have you read the forums? I'm not the only one that cares about the original sound design.
The main issue is nearfield mixing, which is totally unnecessary, because they also do TV mixes, so use that mix if you feel the soundbar people need another mix. Nearfield mixing and reduced dynamic range seems to be done without any industrywide standard, because levels and dynamic range vary far too much from release to release. Why do yet another mix except for the mixers to make more money. I've heard all the reasons from them, and I'm not buying it.

[bigrob]

Originally Posted by JMDiaz718

And featuring the iconic poster art. I'm not sure why Fox, keeps releasing this movie on HD, with a freaking housefly on the cover!!

This masterpiece.......



dropped for this???????? Geez!

The steelbook is worse. I had the DVD steelbook for years and never noticed the eyes on the fly were Jeff Goldblum's face. quickly got rid of it after that lol

[Mister B Gone]

hahaha that can't be real ^^ what a comically bad image I never noticed that before.

This is what I have, it's at least the theatrical artwork in spirit:

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Mister B Gone

hahaha that can't be real ^^ what a comically bad image I never noticed that before.

This is what I have, it's at least the theatrical artwork in spirit:

I'd take the steelbook over that any day.

Theatrical is better though.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

I've worked in sound for decades, mainly live sound, but also system installations with some of them being cinemas. So if you're telling me, then you must also have worked in the business?
I don't care if they include mixes for more speakers. They should include the original also in that case, otherwise revisionism is exactly what it is. Have you read the forums? I'm not the only one that cares about the original sound design.
The main issue is nearfield mixing, which is totally unnecessary, because they also do TV mixes, so use that mix if you feel the soundbar people need another mix. Nearfield mixing and reduced dynamic range seems to be done without any industrywide standard, because levels and dynamic range vary far too much from release to release. Why do yet another mix except for the mixers to make more money. I've heard all the reasons from them, and I'm not buying it.

I don't think you're comprehending what I'm writing because I'm arguing AGAINST any remixing or changes to the original audio.