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mwynn · 12-21-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

I mean...

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)
Budget: $115 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $274 Million

Tomb Raider (2018)
Budget: $94 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $275 Million

If you go by the original movie's numbers, the new movie did proportionally better, and the original movie got a sequel.

With the cost of tickets then vs now, that is not a good comparison.

Bugg · 12-21-2018, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

I mean...

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)
Budget: $115 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $274 Million

Tomb Raider (2018)
Budget: $94 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $275 Million

If you go by the original movie's numbers, the new movie did proportionally better, and the original movie got a sequel.

World Wide box office is a much bigger slice of the pie than it was in 2001. Movie studios get a greater percentage of the ticket sales from the USA than they do markets like China, which is were movies these days are making a huge extra chunk of cash. That Chinese box-office for American films practically didn't even exist in 2001. The first film made 131M in the USA which is equivilant of $212M today, This year's Tomb Raider only made $58 M in the USA.

275M worldwide in today's market isn't very good for a movie in the 100M budget range. Plus being that it was poorly recieved, a sequel would probably make even less money.

LegacyCosts · 12-21-2018, 10:56 PM

I think with a lackluster reception to the new game and the film the franchise will lay dormant for quite some time which sucks.

dallywhitty · 12-21-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LegacyCosts

I think with a lackluster reception to the new game and the film the franchise will lay dormant for quite some time which sucks.

A supposed insider has claimed that the franchise will be on a hiatus for a while, though I think that would've happened even if Shadow had received glowing reviews across the board. Now that they've concluded the trilogy, they're gonna have to revamp the gameplay next time to keep things fresh.

LegacyCosts · 12-21-2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

A supposed insider has claimed that the franchise will be on a hiatus for a while, though I think that would've happened even if Shadow had received glowing reviews across the board. Now that they've concluded the trilogy, they're gonna have to revamp the gameplay next time to keep things fresh.

True, it was just a tough era to release a game with red dead 2 and odyssey etc. Still love TR.

dallywhitty · 12-21-2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LegacyCosts

True, it was just a tough era to release a game with red dead 2 and odyssey etc. Still love TR.

Releasing it the week after Spider-Man was financial suicide.

It's okay, Shadow. I still love you.

morphinapg · 12-22-2018, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

With the cost of tickets then vs now, that is not a good comparison.

The comparison is not in the total, but in how the total compares to the budget.

MikeScott · 12-22-2018, 05:35 AM

I watched this maybe a month ago and enjoyed it quite a bit. I'd really enjoy a sequel. Hope they give one a chance.

tigertron · 12-22-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

I mean...

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)
Budget: $115 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $274 Million

Tomb Raider (2018)
Budget: $94 Million
Worldwide Box Office: $275 Million

If you go by the original movie's numbers, the new movie did proportionally better, and the original movie got a sequel.

It's a different time now, with larger markets, increased marketing costs, etc.

I would love a sequel, but I just don't see it happening with today's industry.

mwynn · 12-22-2018, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

The comparison is not in the total, but in how the total compares to the budget.

It also only sold 6 million tickets.

morphinapg · 12-23-2018, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

It also only sold 6 million tickets.

Number of tickets really doesn't matter. What matters is how box office compares to the budget. The budget was lower here, and box office was about the same.

mwynn · 12-23-2018, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

Number of tickets really doesn't matter. What matters is how box office compares to the budget. The budget was lower here, and box office was about the same.

That does not make sense. If people do not buy tickets the movie does not have an audience.

morphinapg · 12-23-2018, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

That does not make sense. If people do not buy tickets the movie does not have an audience.

It's all about money. Number of tickets will always be relative to the money, but what the studios care about is how much profit or loss they made. It doesn't really matter how many tickets sold from one movie to another because they had different budgets, were released in different years, etc.

Original Tomb Raider had a budget of $115 Million. When compared to the price of a ticket today, that would be equivalent to a movie with a budget of $186 Million today. The new movie had a budget of $94 Million. That means the old movie needed to sell nearly twice as many tickets to be profitable as the new movie would have needed. That's why the actual number of tickets is meaningless here.

Predatorix38417 · 12-23-2018, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Releasing it the week after Spider-Man was financial suicide.

It's okay, Shadow. I still love you.

How did Square Enix mess up the release date AGAIN?! I mean literally Rise got crushed cause it came out right between Fallout 4 and Battlefront then they thought it'd be a good idea to release Shadow right after Spider-Man?

morphinapg · 12-23-2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Predatorix38417

How did Square Enix mess up the release date AGAIN?! I mean literally Rise got crushed cause it came out right between Fallout 4 and Battlefront then they thought it'd be a good idea to release Shadow right after Spider-Man?

pretty sure Tomb Raider announced their date before Spider-man did

Predatorix38417 · 12-23-2018, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by morphinapg

pretty sure Tomb Raider announced their date before Spider-man did

That's true but they still could've moved the release date up or released it in August where it could've had a month advantage over the fall season (and Uncharted Lost Legacy came out in August the previous year as well).

It'll be interesting to see how February plays out cause Anthem, Metro, and Crackdown are all releasing at the same time.

Gamma_Winstead · 12-23-2018, 06:03 AM

Tomb Raider 2013 came out in March, and was the most succesful of the reboots. You'd think they'd have learned after the release of Rise. But that's Square Enix for you. Stubborn morons that kill their own IP's.

Lepidopterous · 04-09-2019, 06:04 PM

Leonidas King · 04-09-2019, 06:05 PM

That Destiny Child's cover was the best thing this movie had to offer in all honestly.

Foggy · 04-09-2019, 06:12 PM

Yo, what’s going on with that sequel that’s totally happening?

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12-21-2018, 10:56 PM	#1963
LegacyCosts Blu-ray Knight Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Chicago 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:452 Trading Score:20	I think with a lackluster reception to the new game and the film the franchise will lay dormant for quite some time which sucks.

12-22-2018, 05:35 AM	#1968
MikeScott Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Minnesota Trading Score:503	I watched this maybe a month ago and enjoyed it quite a bit. I'd really enjoy a sequel. Hope they give one a chance.

12-23-2018, 06:03 AM	#1977
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	Tomb Raider 2013 came out in March, and was the most succesful of the reboots. You'd think they'd have learned after the release of Rise. But that's Square Enix for you. Stubborn morons that kill their own IP's.

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