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Old 02-17-2019, 03:12 PM   #6061
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What films do you guys think are must own Noirs? Been on a Noir kick recently and bought Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard and the Bogart and Bacall collection. Some films I’d seen and some I hadn’t seen before.
Out of the Past
The Asphalt Jungle
They Live by Night
Night and the City
The Night of the Hunter
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:38 PM   #6062
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what films do you guys think are must own noirs? Been on a noir kick recently and bought double indemnity, sunset boulevard and the bogart and bacall collection. Some films i’d seen and some i hadn’t seen before.
This list by Eddie Muller is a good place to start:

Top 25 Noir Films

Although I might add at least a few of the following:

The Big Heat
Gilda
The Killing
Kiss Me Deadly
Laura
Leave Her to Heaven
Murder, My Sweet
Pickup on South Street
The Postman Always Rings Twice
Rififi
The Sniper
This Gun For Hire
Where the Sidewalk Ends
White Heat
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:16 PM   #6063
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What films do you guys think are must own Noirs? Been on a Noir kick recently and bought Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard and the Bogart and Bacall collection. Some films I’d seen and some I hadn’t seen before.
The Asphalt Jungle
The Big Heat
The Big Sleep
Blood On the Moon
The Breaking Point
Detour - 1945
Double Indemnity
Gun Crazy
Key Largo
Kiss Me Deadly
The Lost Weekend
Murder My Sweet
Odds Against Tomorrow
The Postman Always Rings Twice - 1946
Ramrod
Raw Deal
The Set-Up
They Live By Night
The Third Man
Touch of Evil
Victimas del Pecado


The French Connection
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Chinatown
The Grifters
Internal Affairs
China Moon
Poodle Springs

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Old 02-17-2019, 08:43 PM   #6064
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TOUCH OF EVIL
KISS ME DEADLY
GUN CRAZY
PITFALL
DOUBLE INDEMNITY

Neo-noir:

EXPERIMENT IN TERROR
LA CONFIDENTIAL
CHINATOWN
BODY HEAT
THE NAKED KISS


Low budget sleaze/noir:


WHO KILLED TEDDY BEAR
THE GLASS CAGE (1964)
ANGEL'S FLIGHT (1965)

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Old 02-17-2019, 10:43 PM   #6065
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What films do you guys think are must own Noirs? Been on a Noir kick recently and bought Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard and the Bogart and Bacall collection. Some films I’d seen and some I hadn’t seen before.
Out of the Past
The Maltese Falcon
Double Indemnity
In a Lonely Place
Detour
The Big Heat
Sweet Smell of Success
Criss Cross
The Killers
The Asphalt Jungle
Night and the City
Raw Deal
Private Hell 36
Act of Violence
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:08 PM   #6066
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This list by Eddie Muller is a good place to start:
Speaking of Eddie, what happened to "Noir Alley" on TCM ?
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:28 PM   #6067
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Out of the Past
The Asphalt Jungle
Night and the City
Touch of Evil
Gun Crazy
The Killers (1946)
Sweet Smell of Success
In a Lonely Place
Kiss Me Deadly
The Killing
Scarlet Street

Eddie Muller's list is excellent, except that City That Never Sleeps is not of the same caliber as the rest of the films (and I'd rejigger the order a bit).
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:33 PM   #6068
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Speaking of Eddie, what happened to "Noir Alley" on TCM ?
Essentially a winter hiatus, tied to "30 Days of Oscar." It starts up again on March 9th.

This year's schedule (March-January 2020):

http://noiralley.tcm.com/schedule
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:44 PM   #6069
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Eddie Muller's list is excellent, except that City That Never Sleeps is not of the same caliber as the rest of the films (and I'd rejigger the order a bit).
I agree. Although I like City That Never Sleeps, I think there are several "better" choices. (And I still haven't seen Moonrise or Odds Against Tomorrow, so I can't judge their inclusion.)

Love his Top 5 choices, however. Hard to beat In a Lonely Place, Criss Cross, Sunset Boulevard, Asphalt Jungle, and Double Indemnity. I would personally drop Maltese Falcon down a few notches, though. It's a terrific film and certainly belongs on the list. But better than Nightmare Alley, Night and the City, or Out of the Past? Nah.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:18 AM   #6070
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These haven't been mentioned and are also must owns:

Fallen Angel
Force of Evil
The Woman in the Window
Odd Man Out
Key Largo
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:31 AM   #6071
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What films do you guys think are must own Noirs? Been on a Noir kick recently and bought Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard and the Bogart and Bacall collection. Some films I’d seen and some I hadn’t seen before.
Beyond the ones you've mentioned (both DI and SB totally belong on my list), these are my absolute couldn't-live-without favorites. They're in no particular order... well, besides the order I thought of them.

-Out of the Past
-The Killers (1946)
-Scarlet Street
-The Breaking Point
-Asphalt Jungle
-Night and The City
-Cape Fear (1962)
-Vertigo
-Strangers on a Train
-Shadow of a Doubt
-Kiss Me Deadly
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I would pay for noir/neo-noir streaming service
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Laura [1944]
Notorious [1946]
The Naked City [1948]
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Eddie Muller's list is excellent, except that City That Never Sleeps is not of the same caliber as the rest of the films (and I'd rejigger the order a bit).
Any list that omits The Third Man is suspect. I'd put it in the place of Sunset Boulevard because, despite his insistence, Sunset Boulevard never really struck me as noir.
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Any list that omits The Third Man is suspect. I'd put it in the place of Sunset Boulevard because, despite his insistence, Sunset Boulevard never really struck me as noir.
There’s no doubt The Third Man is a good film. But I find it significantly overrated by most people. I could list 25 noirs I personally think are better as well.
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Thanks for the great responses, guys!
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What films do you guys think are must own Noirs? Been on a Noir kick recently and bought Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard and the Bogart and Bacall collection. Some films I’d seen and some I hadn’t seen before.
I'll add one to the growing list of recommendations...though it's not on blu.

BORN TO KILL

Few noirs are as full of self-interested, morally devoid characters. I think everyone in the story is a piece of shit.
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There’s no doubt The Third Man is a good film. But I find it significantly overrated by most people. I could list 25 noirs I personally think are better as well.
I'm struggling to think of 5 films which are better, irrespective of genre.
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Any list that omits The Third Man is suspect. I'd put it in the place of Sunset Boulevard because, despite his insistence, Sunset Boulevard never really struck me as noir.
I find anyone who doesn't think Sunset Boulevard is noir to be suspect.
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Sunset Boulevard is definitely noir, and sophisticated story telling, but I never watch it.
Movies about movie people take me out of the movie.
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