Zombie Movies

[SellmeyourDVD]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

To bad Shaun of the Dead isn't on Blu...

+1. Best zombie movie EVER!

[robertc88]

Zombies, vampires or whatever. I like 30 Days Of Night.

[J_UNTITLED]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Explain all the biting and ripping then.



So you're saying that zombies can learn and become smarter... like the Romero ones?

I already did explain the biting and ripping -- they are consumed with violent rage and therefore attack and/or lash out in various ways (i.e. biting and ripping, among others).


No, I don't necessarily mean that the infected learn or become smarter as time goes along -- I more so meant that it seems possible that they actually maintain a bit of their identity or coherence amidst the very beginning of the infection.

Originally Posted by robertc88

Zombies, vampires or whatever. I like 30 Days Of Night.

Vampires and zombies are two completely different entities and "30 Days of Night" is, obviously, about vampires.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by QQQQ!

28 days later depicts a virus epidemic in a much more realistic way. Which
NONE of Romero's or other obvious zombie movies are!

Bull$#!+

Romero specifically leaves out WHY the zombies are showing up in his movies, if it's radiation, plague or whatever, he simply doesn't say.

And I've never heard of Zombie's that are capable of hating, like the infected boy said in 28 days later "I hate you" while attacking a person.
Which means the boy has a conscious. Romero's first zombies had no consciousness whatsoever! And the newer zombie movie which you refered to was just a cheap way, to do something new to the Zombie genre, like learning and reasoning. Which in the first place was never the trademark and appeal of the genre.

It's the trademark of Romero that his zombies progress on a step-by-step mental evolution throughout his movies.

If you can't see that, then you either a} have never watched a Romero movie or b} just are in it to turn off your brain and watch blood and gore. Neither of these options are bad per se, but to talk as if you know Romero's movies like the back of your hand and then miss something so painfully obvious isn't really adding much to the conversation.

And please don't use wikipedia.org, everybody can edit articles there, which
makes it a questionable source.

Take a look at the movie White Zombie. You'll find someone in that movie who is a zombie, who also wasn't irradated or anything of the sort. It's Voodoo man.

And don't call Danny Boyle a moron, that is just low and uncalled for.

Why? Is he going to track me down and go "Christian Bale" on me?

Logan

[J_UNTITLED]

We're agreed to disagree -- everyone has their own truths... big deal.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by J_UNTITLED

We're agreed to disagree -- everyone has their own truths... big deal.

We already agreed to disagree.

Logan

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Bull$#!+

Romero specifically leaves out WHY the zombies are showing up in his movies, if it's radiation, plague or whatever, he simply doesn't say.



It's the trademark of Romero that his zombies progress on a step-by-step mental evolution throughout his movies.

If you can't see that, then you either a} have never watched a Romero movie or b} just are in it to turn off your brain and watch blood and gore. Neither of these options are bad per se, but to talk as if you know Romero's movies like the back of your hand and then miss something so painfully obvious isn't really adding much to the conversation.



Take a look at the movie White Zombie. You'll find someone in that movie who is a zombie, who also wasn't irradated or anything of the sort. It's Voodoo man.



Why? Is he going to track me down and go "Christian Bale" on me? Logan

[GGX]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

A virus spreads throughout the populace turning everyone it touches into a mindless flesh craving monster...

Nope... that doesn't sound like a zombie movie to me at all......... /sarcasm.

Logan

The infected in both 28 Later movies don't eat flesh smartass. Nor are they dead.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by GGX

The infected in both 28 Later movies don't eat flesh smartass. Nor are they dead.

Might want to re-watch that movie.

There's plenty of neck-biting scenes. Flesh is consumed.

I wonder what you might want to call that... smartass?

Logan

[Anthony P]

Correction, some movie zombies are that way.

what is your point, that any idiot can write any stupidity on Wiki?
if you look at the definition at the beginning

A zombie is a reanimated human corpse

anything else is not a zombie. in 28 days/week the people have a disease that is a mutated form of rabies and like all rabies it makes the infected much more violent, or would you call a dog with rabies a zombie just because it attacks people?

[Anthony P]

There's plenty of neck-biting scenes. Flesh is consumed.

I don't remember if there was flesh that was consumed or not, but would you consider a movie about canibals to be a zombie movie?

[Ruin]

The best zombie movie is titled zombie/zombi. That is a classic

[opterasis]

A zombie is a reanimated human corpse. The things in 28 Days/Weeks are not reanimated, but enraged. They are not zombies. End of debate as far as I'm concerned.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I don't remember if there was flesh that was consumed or not, but would you consider a movie about canibals to be a zombie movie?

Not about cannibals no.

But, we're talking about Zombies, the ZOMBIES from 28 days/weeks later fit every definition of zombie except for the fact that they're technically still alive.

Then again, that's the definition of Romero zombies, I prefer the Voodoo type myself, and seeing as how the Voodoo zombies can still be alive, then the 28 days/weeks zombies could fall under that definition as well.

Then again, I seem to be supporting my findings with logical discussion, people who are against me are seemingly engaged in a 'no it isn't!" type mentality without providing anything to back up what they're saying.

Logan

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by opterasis

A zombie is a reanimated human corpse. The things in 28 Days/Weeks are not reanimated, but enraged. They are not zombies. End of debate as far as I'm concerned.

Keep telling yourself that, and maybe, Santa will bring you something nice for Christmas and the Easter Bunny will show up to your house with a chocolate Jesus for you to munch on.

Do you have anything to back up your claim other than personal opinion? No? Really? Hrm. Watch "White Zombie" and get back to us.

Logan

[opterasis]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Keep telling yourself that, and maybe, Santa will bring you something nice for Christmas and the Easter Bunny will show up to your house with a chocolate Jesus for you to munch on.

Logan

Yup, that sure looks like logical discussion to me.

Since you seem to think that wikipedia is a reliable source...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie....the very first line...."A zombie is a reanimated human corpse."

So tell me exactly why the things in Days/Weeks are zombies. They aren't reanimated. They aren't the result of voodoo or supernatural power. The only defense you seem to have is they eat flesh.

And please, try answering without name calling, and being a general snob.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by opterasis

Yup, that sure looks like logical discussion to me.

Since you seem to think that wikipedia is a reliable source...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie....the very first line...."A zombie is a reanimated human corpse."

So tell me exactly why the things in Days/Weeks are zombies. They aren't reanimated. They aren't the result of voodoo or supernatural power. The only defense you seem to have is they eat flesh.

And please, try answering without name calling, and being a general snob.

First of all: I didn't call anyone a name. If you could stop throwing straw men out there, you'd stop tripping over them.

Second of all: There are some zombies that are caused by plagues, therein lies my point. Some are, some aren't. There's really no SET definition, please try and keep up with the conversation if you want to take part in it.

Some are created by Voodoo {the classic ones} some they don't explain at all, {like the Romero ones} in that way they fall into the category of zombies.

Another point in my favor is the very description on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289043/keywords Zombie is in there. I know it might be hard to digest {pun intended} but there it is.

Now, I might also want to take you over to Fox Searchlight Pictures website {since you seem to not like Wikipedia} http://content.foxsearchlight.com/films/node/319 Oh $#!+ it mentions zombies on the official production company website...

But, you're right though, how could ANYONE who thinks that it's a zombie movie be so wrong? How could the very production company that put it out so people could see it make such an overwhelmingly bad error as to label it a zombie movie? /sarcasm.

Logan

[zombieking]

Don't really care what one defines as a zombie, but the 28 Days/Weeks movies definitely had a zombie feel to them.

Has anyone seen the movie Blindness? There were even instances in that film that had influences from zombie films IMO. Society breakdown, littered streets, people shambling around the city lol, struggle for survival

[opterasis]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

He {Boyle} must be quite the moron if he didn't see that one coming.

Logan

That is name calling as far as I'm concerned. But you obviously know what the director intended far better than he did.

I'm plenty caught up in the conversation. Please try to make a post without talking down to people though. I know you're going for the whole "condescending internet elitist" act, but it's getting old.

So people adding keywords on an IMDb page makes it true? I guess I should add "Goat sex potato farmer", and that would make it true.

Production companies constantly try to pass off movies as something they're not. Hell, Paramount tried to tell me Zoolander was hilarious, and that was far from true.

And honestly, you're description of zombie is so incredibly vague that a bunch of cannibals with hydrocephalus should be zombies. They have a virus and they eat flesh, so they must be zombies. For every million points for it, there's a million points against it.

[J_UNTITLED]

Quotes from Danny Boyle...


"The Romero films are obviously the most important zombie films, but 28 Days Later isn't really a zombie film." (Source)


“There was an article in the paper the other day by Simon Pegg. He wrote this article begging people to let zombies stumble again and not run. He was trying to turn the tide back because everyone has zombies running now. He’s like, ‘No, please. Can we go back to the old days when you knew you could get away from them?’ That was sort of the thrill. These idiots didn’t lock themselves in a car and died. That’s why I keep saying, ‘It’s not a zombie movie, everyone. It’s not a zombie movie!’ Because the aficionados - it’s sacrilegious what you’re doing by changing things like that. They’re infected. They’re not zombies.” (Source)


Another one here.