The Little Mermaid 4K UHD (1989) (30th Anniversary Edition)

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by HarcourtMudd

Oh, I forgot the "blink and you miss it" cell damage (?) during the climactic battle with Ursula. This probably went unnoticed until the Diamond edition due to overscan. This was indeed fixed digitally in the UHD.

It's in every copy of the initial 35 mm back from 1989. It's an original mistake of the film. Some purists would say that Disney should not have fixed that.

[tyrok]

I wonder why it's talking Disney so long to get a live action version of this into production.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by tyrok

I wonder why it's talking Disney so long to get a live action version of this into production.

Good god, don't encourage them! Aladdin looks awful thus far. The Mouse is devoid of original ideas.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The Mouse is devoid of original ideas.

You are aware that the majority Disney's animated livelihood is adapting European folktales?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

You are aware that the majority Disney's animated livelihood is adapting European folktales?

Yup, but they also added their own panash to them. I'm also talking about re-doing their animated films as live action properties rather than moving on to something else. Their Marvel and Star Wars franchise films are also fairly bland and mediocre. Again, nothing new and groundbreaking. Just safe.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yup, but they also added their own panash to them. I'm also talking about re-doing their animated films as live action properties rather than moving on to something else. Their Marvel and Star Wars franchise films are also fairly bland and mediocre. Again, nothing new and groundbreaking. Just safe.

It will only change when Iger steps down. I miss Michael Eisner.

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by CampbellzSoup

I wonder what the other signature releases will be this year? Aladdin maybe?

I think I heard Cinderella would likely be coming in the spring or summer but noone knows.

[storythecorgi]

Originally Posted by CampbellzSoup

I wonder what the other signature releases will be this year? Aladdin maybe?

Aladdin is inevitable. Should be out in May or when the live action film comes out on Blu-ray.

[pikachufan1336]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yup, but they also added their own panash to them. I'm also talking about re-doing their animated films as live action properties rather than moving on to something else. Their Marvel and Star Wars franchise films are also fairly bland and mediocre. Again, nothing new and groundbreaking. Just safe.

I highly recommend watching this video, which explains how Disney likes to play it "safe" as you say:

That Time Disney Remade Beauty and the Beast - YouTube

Disney has been "safe" since Walt's death, not because the people going into the business are less talented, but Disney steadily became a giant image obsessed corporate conglomerate, meaning of course they're going to invest in a nostalgia fueled remake. To put it simply Hollywood was a different place back then.

As for the content , IMO the studio has gone downhill since Walt Died, don't get me wrong I love TLM, Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, Moana, etc. But Walt's movies took risks; they were good for the same reason Studio Ghibli films were good, it wasn't the stories themselves it was the approaches to them, the details, how they were told.

I mean look at some of the films he made:
A docudrama about wildlife
a Blake Edwards-style film noir about stolen puppies
an episodic escapist fantasy fueled by the source material's nonsense poems and satire.
A concert feature created by combining classical music with the imagination of the animator resulting in a spectacle that changed the world.

He took risks, and sure some are better than others, but even with his more conventional films, those risks payed off.

All of the 90's Disney films are "coming of age", romance driven, fully fledged musicals, based on a pre-existing story, where the main character is some kind of misunderstood outcast, and (excluding some) have a famous comedian playing themselves adding a lot to the tone of the film.
The 2010's or "revival era", are less homogeneous but they're still a continuing theme (Rapunzel-ish heroine, not so subtle critiques of Disney movies of the past, twist villain, etc.) but I digress...

With Eisner's era we had Direct to Video Sequels
With Iger's era we have live action remakes
In terms of quality, I don't see the difference.
They both make the company look cheap
They both depend on Nostalgia
They both tend to be fanfic-y, and made by people who clearly don't care (It's almost like they know that people are going to forget about this project within a year! Imagine that)

All of which can be forgiven if the final products were any good but they aren't, at best they're OK.

While I know Disney is a bigger company with a lot more to offer than classic animated films and Mary Poppins. Disney can't take risks anymore, if they do it is filtered through contractual obligations. Look at Mulan, and especially The Hunchback of Notre Dame, can you tell that the comic relief was not in the first draft of the film? There's a reason for that....

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yup, but they also added their own panash to them. I'm also talking about re-doing their animated films as live action properties rather than moving on to something else.

If more people went to see Mars Needs Moms, John Carter, The Lone Ranger, Tomorrowland, A Wrinkle in Time, etc, and not the Alice in Wonderland, Beauty and the Beast, and Jungle Book remakes, we wouldn't be in this situation.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by farerb

I miss Michael Eisner.

Why?

[PrueFever]

How many here have the digital version? Or anyone who would be interested in a UHD code?

[Instacredit]

Originally Posted by PrueFever

How many here have the digital version? Or anyone who would be interested in a UHD code?

I really could use a uhd code if your giving yours away free.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by pikachufan1336

Disney has been "safe" since Walt's death, not because the people going into the business are less talented, but Disney steadily became a giant image obsessed corporate conglomerate, meaning of course they're going to invest in a nostalgia fueled remake. To put it simply Hollywood was a different place back then.

As for the content , IMO the studio has gone downhill since Walt Died, don't get me wrong I love TLM, Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, Moana, etc. But Walt's movies took risks; they were good for the same reason Studio Ghibli films were good, it wasn't the stories themselves it was the approaches to them, the details, how they were told.

I mean look at some of the films he made:
A docudrama about wildlife
a Blake Edwards-style film noir about stolen puppies
an episodic escapist fantasy fueled by the source material's nonsense poems and satire.
A concert feature created by combining classical music with the imagination of the animator resulting in a spectacle that changed the world.

He took risks, and sure some are better than others, but even with his more conventional films, those risks payed off.

All of the 90's Disney films are "coming of age", romance driven, fully fledged musicals, based on a pre-existing story, where the main character is some kind of misunderstood outcast, and (excluding some) have a famous comedian playing themselves adding a lot to the tone of the film.
The 2010's or "revival era", are less homogeneous but they're still a continuing theme (Rapunzel-ish heroine, not so subtle critiques of Disney movies of the past, twist villain, etc.) but I digress...

With Eisner's era we had Direct to Video Sequels
With Iger's era we have live action remakes
In terms of quality, I don't see the difference.
They both make the company look cheap
They both depend on Nostalgia
They both tend to be fanfic-y, and made by people who clearly don't care (It's almost like they know that people are going to forget about this project within a year! Imagine that)

All of which can be forgiven if the final products were any good but they aren't, at best they're OK.

While I know Disney is a bigger company with a lot more to offer than classic animated films and Mary Poppins. Disney can't take risks anymore, if they do it is filtered through contractual obligations. Look at Mulan, and especially The Hunchback of Notre Dame, can you tell that the comic relief was not in the first draft of the film? There's a reason for that....

There's definite elements of truth to this, but you are clearly looking at Walt's era with rose-tinted glasses. Not every film he made was a Fantasia. His films could be every bit as formulaic.

Plus, comparing Walt to Miyazaki is a joke. Walt was a businessman first, an artist second. Hayao Miyazaki is a capital-A Artist, with all the pros and cons that entails. The films Walt made were simply not comparable to a lot of Studio Ghibli's output.

[Instacredit]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

There's definite elements of truth to this, but you are clearly looking at Walt's era with rose-tinted glasses. Not every film he made was a Fantasia. His films could be every bit as formulaic.

Plus, comparing Walt to Miyazaki is a joke. Walt was a businessman first, an artist second. Hayao Miyazaki is a capital-A Artist, with all the pros and cons that entails. The films Walt made were simply not comparable to a lot of Studio Ghibli's output.

Wrong walt Disney’s films and animation films were every bit as good as studio Ghibli in fact I happen to think my neighbor Totoro is a piece of boring junk. This statement is coming from someone who loves anime my neighbor Totoro is no where near as good as animr film like a silent voice the movie which should have won an academy award in 2017.the few good studio ghibli films are Ponyo,howls moving castle,spirited away,Kiki’s delivery service.
Also walt was an artist just as much as Miyazaki.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Instacredit

Wrong walt Disney’s films and animation films were every bit as good as studio Ghirlandaio in fact I happen to think my neighbor Totoro is a piece of boring junk. This statement is coming from someone who loves anime my neighbor Totoro is no where near as good as animr film like a silent voice the movie which should have won an academy award in 2017.the few good studio ghibli films are Ponyo,howls moving castle,spirited away,Kiki’s delivery service.
Also walt was an artist just as much as Miyazaki.

"Ghirlandio"?

[PrueFever]

[pikachufan1336]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

There's definite elements of truth to this, but you are clearly looking at Walt's era with rose-tinted glasses. Not every film he made was a Fantasia. His films could be every bit as formulaic.

Plus, comparing Walt to Miyazaki is a joke. Walt was a businessman first, an artist second. Hayao Miyazaki is a capital-A Artist, with all the pros and cons that entails. The films Walt made were simply not comparable to a lot of Studio Ghibli's output.

I never said that they were all Fantasia, even Walt will tell you that. I meant that there was a variety and even if they aren't perfect films, the risks the films took pulled off. They're the types of risks that would never happen with Disney today.

As for comparison to Studio Ghibli, I didn't mean literally, obviously "Disney present's Grave of the Fireflies" would never exist in a million years in any era for Disney. But what I meant was that the reason those movies were good was in the storytelling, how the stories were told and how the films were made.
Both of Walt's animated films and Studio Ghibli films knew that what makes a film great and sophisticated doesn't rely on adult subject matter.

Also, yes some of Walt's films were similar, like his three princess movies. But there is still a big difference between those three movies, not to mention visually
Snow White is about Predator and Prey/Vanity consuming someone
Cinderella's an Underdog Story
Sleeping Beauty is.........about the fairies.......I'm actually not sure what the lesson of that one is (someone want to chime in?)

Besides those are three movies in the span of 30 years.

With the renaissance it was the opposite, they were all different flavors of the same thing.

[Stok3d]

Anyone redeemed the 4k code yet? If so, could you let us know where and if you got UHD in MA?

[CampbellzSoup]

Originally Posted by Stok3d

Anyone redeemed the 4k code yet? If so, could you let us know where and if you got UHD in MA?

Well for someone who has redeemed the lion King in 4K I can tell you that reported to ultra HD 4K and everything except for itunes however I would like to know this about the little mermaid