Bumblebee 4K UHD (2018)

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The film was re-edited by Paramount THEMSELVES on advice from the BBFC after rating the original version at a '12', hence the BBFC didn't have to technically 'cut' anything themselves, hence the "all known versions passed uncut", hence the PG ratings for the home video versions not showing as "cut" either.

If you click on that first link, under 'Details' you'll find the following:



so turn those upside down!

Ah I see. At least it enabled my 6 1/2 year son to watch it in the Cinema but going to import the uncut version for HT viewing.

[tcripe]

Can anybody give me the specifics on what was cut from the film in the UK version? I live in the US, so I guess I get the uncut version.... but when I saw this in theaters I didn't see anything overly violent or offensive... Just wondering why they would cut parts from this film?

[Geoff D]

I don't think anyone actually knows for sure! But (not having seen it yet, cut or uncut) I've heard that a robot character gets killed in a rather intense way and that seems like as good a candidate as anything. Once the actual discs are released then a proper assessment will be carried out by moviecensorship or whoever.

[Staying Salty]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

… I've heard that a robot character gets killed in a rather intense way and that seems like as good a candidate as anything. Once the actual discs are released then a proper assessment will be carried out by moviecensorship or whoever.

Since Alita: Battle Angle doesn’t have robots, but cyborgs (human brains), the graphic carnage inflicted on them might traumatize the moviecensorship members.

Originally Posted by Keiji

Alita is not looking like a Disney Princess ^^.

You don't want to piss her off.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Since Alita: Battle Angle doesn’t have robots, but cyborgs (human brains), the graphic carnage inflicted on them might traumatize the moviecensorship members.

That's a rubbish comparison IMO.

The major difference there is that Alita is a 12A/PG-13 rated film aimed at an older audience (the film was mostly marketed to teenagers and young adults). Bumblebee is a PG rated film aimed at children. The reason Paramount made the cuts to Bumblebee in the UK was to get a PG rating as they wanted the film to be more marketable and appealing to families (presumably so it could act as counter-programming to Aquaman).

IIRC, for the BBFC the actual amount of violence doesn't matter, the intensity of the violence does however. This is why the later Harry Potter films are rated 12A, while the earlier ones are PG. The later films aren't particuarly more violent and are pretty tame compared to most 12A films, but the films themselves are a lot more intense and the violence is a lot more intense as a result. Venom and Suicide Squad got 15 ratings for similar reasons, the violence in them was pretty tame, but was a lot more intense than the typical superhero film.

In regards to Bumblebee, I'm in agreement that it's a specific death that was cut down. The scene itself is very intense and I can see it pushing the film to a 12A if it was longer than it was.

[Geoff D]

Salty, are you going to shoehorn an Alita reference into every post?

[Gaffer]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

UK cover is up at zoom, note the PG rating:



I'm thinking that it's a slam dunk now that the Aussie disc will be the same cut version.

Interesting thing though is that the Blu-ray bonus material has been classified "12" certificate on the BBFC website. So if that's the case the PG rating on the Blu ray and 4K U.K covers may be premature unless Paramount drops any special features that got the 12 rating and keeps the whole package PG. (It also explains Paramount Australia's assertion that the bonus material gave the film a higher rating than the PG that the film itself was given).

[K1NG J0RDAN]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Salty, are you going to shoehorn an Alita reference into every post?

He will until you see the film.

[bradnoyes]

Gave in and got the disc+digital and watched the UHD stream tonight. This should be a great disc. So many nice highlights. Colors and contrast are super. A few bad CGI moments here and there but this stands up well to the Bay movies from an audio/visual perspective, as far as I can tell from the stream.

And what a relief to watch a sub 2-hour Transformers movie that doesn’t feel like it was directed by a hormone. Makes me wonder what might have been.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by K1NG J0RDAN

He will until you see the film.

Just an observation, but the constant nagging and shoehorning to try and convince people to go see Alita is more likely to have the opposite effect.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by pottyaboutpotter1

Just an observation, but the constant nagging and shoehorning to try and convince people to go see Alita is more likely to have the opposite effect.

[bookcase]

And what a relief to watch a sub 2-hour Transformers movie that doesn’t feel like it was directed by a hormone.[/QUOTE]

[Pieter V]

DISC INFO:

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Protection: AACS2
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[Lt_Cobretti]

Might still take a punt and buy the Aussie disc, I've yet to get a Paramount UHD that didn't include a US disc so I don't see why it would change. We'll find out soon enough if it's censored.

[richardsim7]

I wonder with the 1.78:1 ratio if we're gaining picture top and bottom, or losing picture on the sides?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by richardsim7

I wonder with the 1.78:1 ratio if we're gaining picture top and bottom, or losing picture on the sides?

99 times out of 100 it's a gain.

[B-52 Bass]

I didn't make it to theater but I will make it at home I see review is up on here. But I don't understand the 4.5 for AQ I just knew it was a 5.0 rating all the way.
Well, i'll let my system prove them wrong and I'll give a 5.0

[Lsalas76]

Watched this in itunes today. I liked it. For the first time in the Transformers movie franchise I felt like I want more movies to come especially with some of the characters that only really made cameos and only if they follow the formula that made Bumblebee a hit with some fans of the Generation 1 Transformers cartoon. I loved the sountrack in this too. One song in particular was awesome to hear.

[movieartisnoice]

Are the special features/extra content on the UHD version 4k as well?

[Eeeper]

Originally Posted by Lsalas76

Watched this in iTunes today. I liked it. For the first time in the Transformers movie franchise I felt like I want more movies to come especially with some of the characters that only really made cameos and only if they follow the formula that made Bumblebee a hit with some fans of the Generation 1 Transformers cartoon. I loved the soundtrack in this too. One song in particular was awesome to hear.

I think I know which song. Might it be one Transformers fans are already familiar with?