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spawningblue · 04-09-2019, 10:32 AM

Is the sale supposed to be starting today? Anyone know what time these usually kick off at?

RedHarvest · 04-09-2019, 12:38 PM

Too bad about Storm of the Century. I don't get it. Kino spends a lot of money restoring old movies no one buys. Storm of the Century is a cult horror title. It's a Stephen King miniseries, and one of the better ones. It would've made an awesome Blu-ray. I mean, who's gonna buy another DVD that's been out for 20 years already? Not me. But I would've bought the Blu-ray. And many others would have, too. Not trying to troll anyone. But I don't see why they won't put the work in on something cool, when it's obviously a good title, something that doesn't already exist. No, I'm not overtly familiar with the process or the work involved. But if there's a title that's worth it, it's a cult horror title. Especially a Stephen King cult horror title.

Why not do it and charge more money for it? That RoninFlix release of Hardware went for $40 bucks new, and everyone bought that. With the right marketing, Storm of the Century could've been a big seller. An amazing performance from Colm Feore.

gates70 · 04-09-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianJoynt

Too bad about Storm of the Century. I don't get it. Kino spends a lot of money restoring old movies no one buys. Storm of the Century is a cult horror title. It's a Stephen King miniseries, and one of the better ones. It would've made an awesome Blu-ray. I mean, who's gonna buy another DVD that's been out for 20 years already? Not me. But I would've bought the Blu-ray. And many others would have, too. Not trying to troll anyone. But I don't see why they won't put the work in on something cool, when it's obviously a good title, something that doesn't already exist. No, I'm not overtly familiar with the process or the work involved. But if there's a title that's worth it, it's a cult horror title. Especially a Stephen King cult horror title.

Well from the sounds of it there's tons of work to do on it and will be expensive. If they sell it expensive, people will ***** and say their usual stupid stuff like "I'll wait for $9.99". People want, but people don't want to pay.

Jlouisbarrett · 04-09-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianJoynt

Too bad about Storm of the Century. I don't get it. Kino spends a lot of money restoring old movies no one buys. Storm of the Century is a cult horror title. It's a Stephen King miniseries, and one of the better ones. It would've made an awesome Blu-ray. I mean, who's gonna buy another DVD that's been out for 20 years already? Not me. But I would've bought the Blu-ray. And many others would have, too. Not trying to troll anyone. But I don't see why they won't put the work in on something cool, when it's obviously a good title, something that doesn't already exist. No, I'm not overtly familiar with the process or the work involved. But if there's a title that's worth it, it's a cult horror title. Especially a Stephen King cult horror title.

Why not do it and charge more money for it? That RoninFlix release of Hardware went for $40 bucks new, and everyone bought that. With the right marketing, Storm of the Century could've been a big seller. An amazing performance from Colm Feore.

My thoughts exactly... it’s a shame but it sounds like their DVD-only plans are set in stone at this point. It’s a double shame considering the Insider basically confirmed that the work and money put toward Trilogy of Terror II (which required the same type of work Storm of the Century, and which I’ve never seen anyone actually request), was a bit of a waste. They shoulda/coulda put those funds toward SotC.

Yes, it would be a huge project, but... as you said, it’s a cult horror title — a Stephen King cult horror title at that. Scorpion just sold ~1,000+ copies of Opera at $50 a pop (one of which is on my shelf). These cult horror fans generally understand higher prices if the label is transparent about just how much work and money they put into it.

Member-222782 · 04-09-2019, 01:20 PM

I agree that name recognition alone would probably move a lot of copies of Storm of the Century but I'm guessing Kino doesn't have the time -or even manpower - to meticulously restore it. It's kind of what happens when you take on a TON of properties all at once.

rickah88 · 04-09-2019, 01:22 PM

I learned long ago not to overthink potential release news.
Only need to know confirmed release news.

RedHarvest · 04-09-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlouisbarrett

My thoughts exactly... it’s a shame but it sounds like their DVD-only plans are set in stone at this point. It’s a double shame considering the Inside basically confirmed that the work and money put toward Trilogy of Terror II (which required the same type of work Storm of the Century, and which I’ve never seen anyone actually request), was a bit of a waste. They shoulda/coulda put those funds toward SotC.

Yes, it would be a huge project, but... as you said, it’s a cult horror title — a Stephen King cult horror title at that. Scorpion just sold ~1,000+ copies of Opera at $50 a pop (one of which is on my shelf). These cult horror fans generally understand higher prices if the label is transparent about just how much work and money they put into it.

That's the thing: the complainers are going to complain regardless, and they don't buy anything, anyway. But true collectors, the ones who appreciate these titles coming to Blu, will buy. Opera, Hardware...if it's a good package, the true collectors will be interested.

RedHarvest · 04-09-2019, 01:25 PM

What's the issue with restoring something like this? Can anyone explain? Is it manpower, facility use, money, time? If anyone knows the process, can you share a quick overview of the work something like this would require?

Aclea · 04-09-2019, 01:42 PM

It was described by the insider a month or two back at great length if you search for the post. Short version: shot on film but finished on videotape, there never was a cut film negative and they'd have to create one from all the unedited raw footage at huge cost. The show only exists in SD.

Jlouisbarrett · 04-09-2019, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianJoynt

What's the issue with restoring something like this? Can anyone explain? Is it manpower, facility use, money, time? If anyone knows the process, can you share a quick overview of the work something like this would require?

If you know anything about the Star Trek: The Next Generation restoration, it’s basically that. The series was shot on film and finished on video tape, so they’d have to put the whole thing through post-production again.

It’s exactly the process they took the time and money to do for Trilogy of Terror II — the difference being Storm of the Century is longer so it’d take more time and more money.

Definitely a huge project, but it always stings with these finished-on-tape movies/TV shows because it technically could be brought to the modern age in full high definition, but instead the original camera negatives are just wasting away in boxes somewhere.

thatguamguy · 04-09-2019, 02:17 PM

Also like Star Trek TNG, unlike Trilogy of Terror II, "Storm of the Century" would have computer effects that would have to be redone for HD. I would think the expense of that alone would be more than Kino could -- or should -- spend on such a release.

spawningblue · 04-09-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Also like Star Trek TNG, unlike Trilogy of Terror II, "Storm of the Century" would have computer effects that would have to be redone for HD. I would think the expense of that alone would be more than Kino could -- or should -- spend on such a release.

Or they could just up-res the CGI shots. Didn't The X-Files do that with some of their effects? Mind you, I don't know how much CGI is in this film.

Aclea · 04-09-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spawningblue

Or they could just up-res the CGI shots. Didn't The X-Files do that with some of their effects? Mind you, I don't know how much CGI is in this film.

They did that with the Blus of Seaquest DSV, and the results ain't pretty. 90s CGi + upres = Owww!

spawningblue · 04-09-2019, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aclea

They did that with the Blus of Seaquest DSV, and the results ain't pretty. 90s CGi + upres = Owww!

It wouldn't be preferred, but it would be better then nothing. Again though, it depends on how much CGI is in this film.

RalphoR · 04-09-2019, 02:35 PM

I hope none of those 70s tv horror movies were Dan Curtis films

Member-222782 · 04-09-2019, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aclea

They did that with the Blus of Seaquest DSV, and the results ain't pretty. 90s CGi + upres = Owww!

The special effects are the reason why Stargate SG-1 hasn't been - and probably never will be - released on Blu-ray despite the huge popularity of the show. I love the show but I don't want ugly upres transfers of it.

HorrorBlu · 04-09-2019, 02:43 PM

I'm grateful Kino took the time to restore Trilogy II. I like it more than the first movie.

Can't wait to upgrade my VHS!

Are there any other USA Network movies in the pipeline? They seem to be scattered between Paramount and Universal. Scream Factory is doing Strays, so we've got two of them on the way.

slasherdisc · 04-09-2019, 03:36 PM

Wheels of Terror (1990) would be cool.

DMRI2006 · 04-09-2019, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

No plans.

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Originally Posted by moscone_bail_bonds

Hi KL insider,

Any plans for the release of 80's touchstone movie Off Beat?

That sucks, one of the better Touchstone films of that era. Cant even get it on DVD.

dullboy · 04-09-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spawningblue

Is the sale supposed to be starting today? Anyone know what time these usually kick off at?

I would also like to know.

04-09-2019, 12:38 PM	#29942
RedHarvest Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Old Hickory, TN 4K collection:545 Blu-ray collection:3462 DVD collection:383 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1	Too bad about Storm of the Century. I don't get it. Kino spends a lot of money restoring old movies no one buys. Storm of the Century is a cult horror title. It's a Stephen King miniseries, and one of the better ones. It would've made an awesome Blu-ray. I mean, who's gonna buy another DVD that's been out for 20 years already? Not me. But I would've bought the Blu-ray. And many others would have, too. Not trying to troll anyone. But I don't see why they won't put the work in on something cool, when it's obviously a good title, something that doesn't already exist. No, I'm not overtly familiar with the process or the work involved. But if there's a title that's worth it, it's a cult horror title. Especially a Stephen King cult horror title. Why not do it and charge more money for it? That RoninFlix release of Hardware went for $40 bucks new, and everyone bought that. With the right marketing, Storm of the Century could've been a big seller. An amazing performance from Colm Feore. Last edited by RedHarvest; 04-09-2019 at 12:43 PM.

04-09-2019, 10:32 AM	#29941
spawningblue Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Hamilton, Ontario, Canada 4K collection:708 Blu-ray collection:5497 DVD collection:1776 Trading Score:109	Is the sale supposed to be starting today? Anyone know what time these usually kick off at?

04-09-2019, 01:20 PM	#29945
Member-222782 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:4556 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:140	I agree that name recognition alone would probably move a lot of copies of Storm of the Century but I'm guessing Kino doesn't have the time -or even manpower - to meticulously restore it. It's kind of what happens when you take on a TON of properties all at once.

04-09-2019, 01:22 PM	#29946
rickah88 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Columbia, MD 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:93	I learned long ago not to overthink potential release news. Only need to know confirmed release news.

04-09-2019, 01:25 PM	#29948
RedHarvest Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Old Hickory, TN 4K collection:545 Blu-ray collection:3462 DVD collection:383 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1	What's the issue with restoring something like this? Can anyone explain? Is it manpower, facility use, money, time? If anyone knows the process, can you share a quick overview of the work something like this would require?

04-09-2019, 01:42 PM	#29949
Aclea Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Blu-ray reviews: 3	It was described by the insider a month or two back at great length if you search for the post. Short version: shot on film but finished on videotape, there never was a cut film negative and they'd have to create one from all the unedited raw footage at huge cost. The show only exists in SD.

04-09-2019, 02:17 PM	#29951
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	Also like Star Trek TNG, unlike Trilogy of Terror II, "Storm of the Century" would have computer effects that would have to be redone for HD. I would think the expense of that alone would be more than Kino could -- or should -- spend on such a release.

04-09-2019, 02:35 PM	#29955
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I hope none of those 70s tv horror movies were Dan Curtis films

04-09-2019, 02:43 PM	#29957
HorrorBlu Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:209 DVD collection:356 Blu-ray reviews:1	I'm grateful Kino took the time to restore Trilogy II. I like it more than the first movie. Can't wait to upgrade my VHS! Are there any other USA Network movies in the pipeline? They seem to be scattered between Paramount and Universal. Scream Factory is doing Strays, so we've got two of them on the way.

04-09-2019, 03:36 PM	#29958
slasherdisc Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2011 Location:New Jersey 4K collection:187 Blu-ray collection:411 Trading Score:69	Wheels of Terror (1990) would be cool.

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