Oldboy (2003) (4K remaster) from Arrow

[backslashio]

I was going to preorder it from Arrow & then forgot that it costs 7.5 pounds to ship 1 bluray that costs 15 pounds. Guess I'll wait till around August & bundle it with a Jackie Chan bluray from Zavvi

[koberulz]

Really? That's insane. Cost me four pounds to ship this, The Shining Blu and BFI's Birth of a Nation from Zavvi. Unfortunately they don't have John Malkovich listed for some reason and I forgot about The Big Clock.

[Dino-Killer 912]

Originally Posted by BurningAstronaut

The materials (yellow highlighting) were created exclusively for the Korean release of Oldboy Blu-ray, meaning international use by other company or companies were not included in the agreements between us and CELSIUS.

And... who is CELSIUS?

[Ben_C]

Originally Posted by Dino-Killer 912

And... who is CELSIUS?

Sounds like something from James Bond.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by Dino-Killer 912

And... who is CELSIUS?

http://www.celsiusentertainment.com/films/films/oldboy/

From the ‘about’ section:

Founded in 2004, Celsius is a dynamic, forward thinking international film sales, distribution & finance company based in central London. The company works with world class filmmakers on high quality, cutting edge, commercial cinema with a clearly defined audience across a wide range of budgets and genres.

Celsius offers a 360 degree financing, marketing, sales and social media solution. The company is also known for the high quality of its marketing materials and utilises the services of best in class trailer and poster houses to ensure its films cut through in a crowded market.

Celsius is helmed by 25 year veteran Thierry Wase-Bailey who co-founded and co-owned Hanway Films and was priorly Head of Sales, Acquisitions & Marketing at Majestic & Head of Sales at Goldcrest.

[Dino-Killer 912]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

http://www.celsiusentertainment.com/films/films/oldboy/

Wow, thanks! Didn't think of the film production company.

Still waiting for update on this dispute between Arrow/Celsius and PA.

[utopia]

Was gonna order this from Arrow. Unfortunately it seems it is a bit too heavy as the postage is 5,5 pounds. Waterworld LE shipping was 2,49 pounds or so. Faster shipping would be 8 pounds. I could also order the 2 disc version with cheaper shipping price.

Decisions decisions...

[johnpaul2]

Originally Posted by tama

So would I be correct in assuming this is a newer master compared to the German Capelight steelbook released a year and a half ago? Same.for remastered Korean rerelease?

The German disc was using the Korean restoration, and my understanding is that it was a 4K restoration already.

Originally Posted by BurningAstronaut

Plain Archive questioning the inclusion of some extras considered exclusive to the their Korean release:

Hum. I need to check which interviews are included in the German '17 release, then.

[Dino-Killer 912]

Originally Posted by johnpaul2

Hum. I need to check which interviews are included in the German '17 release, then.

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison...hp?fid=11960#8

The German release doesn't have the three-hour new interviews, neither the feature commentary by Film critic Shin Hyung-chul.

[MifuneFan]

Hopefully the release isn't delayed, or the extras in question removed because of this. If Plain Archive does have exclusive rights to those extras in their contract with Celsisu then they do have the right legally to stop sales of anyone infringing on that contract.

[Grimmy]

Originally Posted by Armchair NZ

that comparison looks like it's for Capelight's 2017 "collector's limited edition" release. Also available as a steelbook.

the one I'm interested in is Alive's "ultimate collector's edition". Looks like it may have been released the same day as the two Capelight ones? which only adds to the confusion. But I think I remember reading somewhere that it got the same extras as the PA release... would love to confirm if that is or isn't the case, and curious to know how it stacks up against Arrow's version...

The Alive "Ultimate collector's edition" IS one of capelight's 2017 releases, it's not an Alive release. Alive is listed on the back cover of capelight's Oldboy just like with majority of capelight releases, for being involved with them in one role or another depending on the release. Many other German labels work with Alive as well, hence easily making the releases superficially look like by Alive when often that's not quite the case.

HERE are the specs for capelight's Ultimate edition, showing it includes the 111min Old days documentary on a separate disc in a digipak and contentwise that is the main difference between the capelight LE and UE versions. So it's indeed also missing the new 3hr Old days interviews.

[Gambit1138]

Well, it certainly doesn't look like anything's been resolved between Arrow and Plain Archive...I hope Arrow hasn't made things worse, and that all the extras listed manage to stay on the upcoming release.

https://twitter.com/Javier078/status...88354110808064

@ArrowHelp
Jun 3
Replying to @Javier078 @ArrowFilmsVideo @plain_archive
Old Days is indeed included and with the 3-disc edition, you get "Old Days Interviews: Looking Back on the Days of Oldboy, Over three hours of extensive recently film interviews with the film’s cast and crew."

@plain_archive
Jun 3
The materials(yellow highlighting) were created exclusively for the Korean release of Oldboy Blu-ray, meaning international use by other company or companies were not included in the agreements between us and Old Days international distributor. Why are you saying that?@ArrowHelp

[MarcusZoller]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Hopefully the release isn't delayed, or the extras in question removed because of this. If Plain Archive does have exclusive rights to those extras in their contract with Celsisu then they do have the right legally to stop sales of anyone infringing on that contract.

I assume PA will lease the rights to Arrow and were just highlighting that they were owed. The PA release is long, long sold out and technically meant for the Korean market (even if some of us outside of Korea had to have it... and most other PA releases), so I doubt they'll be too precious about the exclusivity if a cheque heads their way.

[professorwho]

I think it could go either way in regards to the PA stuff. As an outsider, they look really annoying and insistent, but there may be truth in what they say, I'm not sure, as I don't work for either company. That said, it would be a major blow to lose the PA extras, but as mentioned a cheque can speak loudly.

[johnpaul2]

Originally Posted by MarcusZoller

I doubt they'll be too precious about the exclusivity if a cheque heads their way.

Could very well be that PA was contractually obliged to have those exclusive to South Korea.
In this case, no cheque heading their way is going to change that.

[iaragorn1]

Originally Posted by johnpaul2

Could very well be that PA was contractually obliged to have those exclusive to South Korea.
In this case, no cheque heading their way is going to change that.

or it could be exclusive to them alone for X many years. Lots of possibilities here

[Eibon]

Lets hope the extras are not removed from the release as they really make this essential and definitive and I love the packaging. It’s funny that I’m salivating over the hours of additional bonus material when I have not managed to get through the 3hr behind scenes footage on past Tartan DVD release. I suppose the hope is that this single set will allow me to discard the two different Tartan DVD sets and the blu-ray steelbook.

[36crazyfists]

Originally Posted by Ben_C

Ahem...

Both region free, both have English subs (not sure if out of print now though).

They should go for it 100% and Memories Of Murder and other Must Buy Korean Thrillers , im a hufe fan and Admire of Korean Cinema its such a pitty we don't have a better options on UK Market and the French market have it but without eng subtitles ...

Day one for me for sure Old Boy and Cruising .

[tommynorcal]

Originally Posted by Ben_C

Ahem...

Both region free, both have English subs (not sure if out of print now though).

I got the one on the left. Solid movie.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Cancelled my Zavvi 3-Disc pre-order and re-ordered it directly from Arrow.

Didn't want to miss out on it in case rights issues ala Django spring up.