How does 24p affect me? (a man trying to figure out if he needs the 800u) - Blu-ray Forum

dobyblue · 02-24-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graf1k

Not to confused the issue, but I figure since the thread is already here I might as well ask it, but why use multiples of 24? I know the point of 120Hz in LCDs is it is the lowest common multiple of both 24 and 30, the latter being for TV content (I imagine that most videogame content these days being at 60 is an added bonus) but in the case of something like the Kuro where 72Hz is not a number 30 goes into evenly, why not just make it a pure 24Hz rather than 48Hz or 72Hz, ect.?

24Hz would be extremely noticeable to the eye, extreme flicker.
When you notice a flicker in the cinema, that's already at 48Hz. You'd only use true 24Hz mode in editing I would imagine.

The Kuro only uses 72Hz for 24p content. It uses 60Hz for video content.

graf1k · 02-24-2009, 04:41 PM

Ah, knew there had to be a reason. Good info, doby.

Sonny · 02-24-2009, 05:24 PM

The Kuro's 72Hz (3:3) is a perfect multiple. I'm not very impressed with the 120Hz on LCD's & soon to be 240Hz... I'm very interested to see the new Panny 96Hz in action. Pioneer found the best multiple (72Hz) to where there would be no flicker & it would still look like it was supposed to. I hope 96Hz works out great for Panny. They have some 96Hz projectors don't they...? Does anyone have one, or maybe of had the privilege of seeing one in action?

I'm really pulling for Panasonic , there our only hope as far as "perfect" PQ goes. Without Panny plasma stepping up, "reference" quality plasma TVs are done.

dobyblue · 02-24-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

They have some 96Hz projectors don't they...? Does anyone have one, or maybe of had the privilege of seeing one in action?
I'm really pulling for Panasonic, they're our only hope as far as "perfect" PQ goes. Without Panny plasma stepping up, "reference" quality plasma TVs are done.

I'm not sure about the projectors, but their Premiere line of Plasma's already does 96Hz as far as I know.

http://www.panasonic.com/business/pl...sma-series.asp

Sonny · 02-26-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

I'm not sure about the projectors, but their Premiere line of Plasma's already does 96Hz as far as I know.

http://www.panasonic.com/business/pl...sma-series.asp

I'm not talking about the new ones that are on there way, I know there gunna be sporting the "O'l 96er"

(The Great Out Doors) I'm talking about the 2007-2008 model projectors...I think they have one that does 96Hz. Member "HDTV1080P" or something like that keeps a list of TVs & projectors that refresh at multiples of 24. I think it listed? I'd like to know if anyone has one & what the verdict is???

xneox · 02-26-2009, 01:36 AM

There's so much more to the 800u than 24p & the THX picture mode (which, by the way, is just a setting - but the display is still certified, outside of that one setting). The single-sheet-of-glass design alone is unlike most of what's available, and is dead sexy. I'm biased, but unless you're waiting for the new stuff, go for it.

lghaze42 · 02-26-2009, 11:22 PM

I have the 800 u and I love it.As for the AVS opinion on THX I trust Lucusfilm over AVS.

dereksworl · 02-24-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

The Kuro only uses 72Hz for 24p content. It uses 60Hz for video content.

It can actually switch refresh rates?

dobyblue · 02-24-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dereksworl

It can actually switch refresh rates?

Yeah, it switches refresh rates based on the input.

The Panny's this year with 24p capabilities will also do this, 96Hz for 1080p24 content, 60Hz for 1080p60 content.

dereksworl · 02-24-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yeah, it switches refresh rates based on the input.

The Panny's this year with 24p capabilities will also do this, 96Hz for 1080p24 content, 60Hz for 1080p60 content.

Didn't know that. thats impressive

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02-24-2009, 04:41 PM	#2
graf1k Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:🆇🆇🆇🆇 Trading Score:198	Ah, knew there had to be a reason. Good info, doby.

02-24-2009, 05:24 PM	#3
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	The Kuro's 72Hz (3:3) is a perfect multiple. I'm not very impressed with the 120Hz on LCD's & soon to be 240Hz... I'm very interested to see the new Panny 96Hz in action. Pioneer found the best multiple (72Hz) to where there would be no flicker & it would still look like it was supposed to. I hope 96Hz works out great for Panny. They have some 96Hz projectors don't they...? Does anyone have one, or maybe of had the privilege of seeing one in action? I'm really pulling for Panasonic , there our only hope as far as "perfect" PQ goes. Without Panny plasma stepping up, "reference" quality plasma TVs are done.

02-26-2009, 01:36 AM	#6
xneox Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Hartford, CT	There's so much more to the 800u than 24p & the THX picture mode (which, by the way, is just a setting - but the display is still certified, outside of that one setting). The single-sheet-of-glass design alone is unlike most of what's available, and is dead sexy. I'm biased, but unless you're waiting for the new stuff, go for it.

02-26-2009, 11:22 PM	#7
lghaze42 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Princeton West Virginia Home Theater Gallery:23	I have the 800 u and I love it.As for the AVS opinion on THX I trust Lucusfilm over AVS.

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