Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Scream Factory mined the MGM library for years. It got to the point where many folks were declaring that Scream Factory's days were numbered as they were getting to some pretty bottom of the barrel dreck at one point. This was before the Sony/Warner/potential Paramount Deals. I have little doubt that we will eventually see more Scream Factory editions of MGM titles but outside of double (or triple) dip releases of big name properties It's doubtful that Scream Factory is going to focus on MGM titles for some time.



Very unlikely though not impossible. More likely is that in the very near future we'll see either a) New Steelbook releases of the film(s) with fresh 4k scans, or b) A new box set housing all 3 films together (with fresh new 4k scans).

I wonder why SF never released Rush Week? Isn't it owned by MGM?

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Since slasher talk is the topic of the moment... Texas Chainsaw Massacre, slasher or no?

I say no. I don't consider The Hills Have Eyes or Wrong Turn slashers either.

Slasher films to me are usually a lone killer with a knife as the most common weapon...

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Yeah I would say no on Texas Chainsaw Massacre as well. It rides the line but I'd go with no.

[xXx$uicide_Ma$terxXx]

Originally Posted by Jibbons

Do you all think Slumber Party Massacre will get Collector's Edition treatment? I was surprised to see it was just a normal release on Shout Factory.

We'll either get a steelbook with ugly as sin art or a boxset with ugly as sin art.

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by zbinks

The "first slasher" probably predates both Black Christmas and Halloween, possibly by a decade or more, but good luck coming up with a consensus as to what that film is, though.



A. More than 50% of all films in the slasher subgenre qualify as a "who done it", and that's probably an extremely conservative estimate.

B. Black Christmas

[Show spoiler]actually fails as a "who done it" because we never actually find out who did it.

There’s a video on YouTube by cinemassacre that says the first slasher film dates back to the 40s & yes Halloween is a slasher.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by TXMoviebuff77

There’s a video on YouTube by cinemassacre that says the first slasher film dates back to the 40s & yes Halloween is a slasher.

He owns a lot of films but I'd hardly consider him an expert on the matter.

[sonny gaunt]

My worthless opinion-if by slasher we mean the sound effect(and music) edited to a visual, I have to say Psycho's shower scene.

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Since slasher talk is the topic of the moment... Texas Chainsaw Massacre, slasher or no?

That’s a bit of a tricky one but I’m gonna go with no on that one.

[TripleHBK]

I am more likely to call TCM a Slasher than not to call it one but am pretty 50-50 on it. But with that in mind if you don't consider it a slasher what sub-genre do you consider it? It seems like it would fit best in the slasher genre even if it doesn't necessarily tick all the normal boxes we've come to expect from a slasher. I'd argue that if Black Christmas and/or Psycho are considered Slashers on any level, that by default TCM would also need to be considered one as well.

[Adcatalano]

TCM is more of a slasher than Black Christmas - not that I think the subgenre needs rigid requirements

Halloween is the crown jewel of slashers, it perfected the formula and set the mold for decades of other movies

I personally don’t like to give F13 too much credit for slasher impact. The wheels were already moving following Halloween, and The Burning and Madman were both being developed around the same time.

[zbinks]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

I am more likely to call TCM a Slasher than not to call it one but am pretty 50-50 on it. But with that in mind if you don't consider it a slasher what sub-genre do you consider it?

Southern gothic, not that I would argue to strongly against it being a slasher. I would argue that not every horror film necessarily falls into a specific subgenre and some fall into multiple.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by Adcatalano

TCM is more of a slasher than Black Christmas - not that I think the subgenre needs rigid requirements

Halloween is the crown jewel of slashers, it perfected the formula and set the mold for decades of other movies

I personally don’t like to give F13 too much credit for slasher impact. The wheels were already moving following Halloween, and The Burning and Madman were both being developed around the same time.

no way.....

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

I am more likely to call TCM a Slasher than not to call it one but am pretty 50-50 on it. But with that in mind if you don't consider it a slasher what sub-genre do you consider it?

A... hacker?

[BobSimms]

As an aside, does anyone know when murder scenes in horror movies started to be referred to as ‘kills’? That wasn’t a thing when I was growing up. They were just called death scenes or murders. In the past couple years, I’ve been noticing people call them ‘kills’, which seems like it comes from army combat/video game culture or something. From whence does this term originate?

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by zbinks

The "first slasher" probably predates both Black Christmas and Halloween, possibly by a decade or more, but good luck coming up with a consensus as to what that film is, though.



A. More than 50% of all films in the slasher subgenre qualify as a "who done it", and that's probably an extremely conservative estimate.

B. Black Christmas

[Show spoiler]actually fails as a "who done it" because we never actually find out who did it.

I just don’t see it as a traditional slasher. We know who the killer is in Halloween and Friday the 13th.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

As an aside, does anyone know when murder scenes in horror movies started to be referred to as ‘kills’? That wasn’t a thing when I was growing up. They were just called death scenes or murders. In the past couple years, I’ve been noticing people call them ‘kills’, which seems like it comes from army combat/video game culture or something. From whence does this term originate?

I only remember them as kills. The slashers would have their kill counts compared, and you would describe the kills as goofy, gory or brutal. Death scenes and murders are for other genres.

[kraven]

Top 5 slashers in no order

1.Michael Myers
2.Jason Vorhees
3.Freddy Krueger
4.Leatherface
5.Pinhead

I think almost everyone would have the first 4 on their list. They are the universal slasher kings, and therefore their movies are slashers. Just because the originals were really good don't mean they aren't slashers. It's not a negative term.

[Mister B Gone]

IMO Psycho is the original Slasher Horror film

[NeMo_ET]

Originally Posted by kraven

Top 5 slashers in no order

1.Michael Myers
2.Jason Vorhees
3.Freddy Krueger
4.Leatherface
5.Pinhead

I think almost everyone would have the first 4 on their list. They are the universal slasher kings, and therefore their movies are slashers. Just because the originals were really good don't mean they aren't slashers. It's not a negative term.

Pinhead...I don't know. Maybe in the sequels or the most recent one? but overall not sure I would throw him in the mix. These movies definitely have more of a fantasy/mythology thing to them that I wouldn't associate with slashers.

I was on the fence with TCM but decided I would lump that in with the slashers. The reason I wasn't convinced was because I see that type of movie paving the road for movies like those from Rob Zombie, not those like Scream.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by NeMo_ET

Pinhead...I don't know. Maybe in the sequels or the most recent one? but overall not sure I would throw him in the mix. These movies definitely have more of a fantasy/mythology thing to them that I wouldn't associate with slashers.

I was on the fence with TCM but decided I would lump that in with the slashers. The reason I wasn't convinced was because I see that type of movie paving the road for movies like those from Rob Zombie, not those like Scream.

I don't branch them off because of different things. I keep it broad, but I do agree the first Hellraiser doesn't fit if sequels were never made.

Open the box and Pinhead comes and kills you is a different version of, set up a tent in the woods and Jason comes and kills you. Hook chains or a machete it's all just their weapon of choice. Same with Leatherface and TCM. It's not that movies fault Rob Zombie made ripoff movies, and it shouldn't be penalized for it.

Group of kids go here and get killed by masked killer is pretty much Slasher 101.