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Old 07-22-2019, 01:14 AM   #3961
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The MCU is really Golan Globus with money.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:19 AM   #3962
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Today is the 30th Anniversary of the "Weird Al" Yankovic film UHF. It cost about $5 million and was given a wide release, but the critics hated it and it tanked at the box office. The film is more respected by critics now, and the rabid Yankovic fanbase own it and love it. When Al shows clips of it during his concerts, the applause and cheers are deafening.

This, to me, is the perfect example of a "cult film". Bomb upon release; loved and respected years later. I don't really think the budget matters much.
Yeah, I'd generally agree with this.

I do think budget makes at least some difference in the grand scheme of things. But yeah that film -- which I had totally forgotten about, btw -- is a great example.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:45 AM   #3963
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Vertigo and Citizen Kane aren’t part of the top three best films of all time.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:48 AM   #3964
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Vertigo and Citizen Kane aren’t part of the top three best films of all time.
Agreed, my holy trinity is Blade Runner, Taxi Driver and Eternal Sunshine.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:51 AM   #3965
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Vertigo and Citizen Kane aren’t part of the top three best films of all time.
They are part of both of my Top Three. But I sort of need to limit these lists to a single language or something like that. Truing, for instance, to come up with the best 30 films ever -- in any language -- seems pretty impossible to me.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:21 AM   #3966
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Rear Window is Hitchcock's true masterpiece
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:25 AM   #3967
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Rear Window is Hitchcock's true masterpiece
Vertigo is still my favorite.

Then Psycho.

Then Rear Window.

HOWEVER, I would never, ever dismiss an opinion if someone chose one of those three. as to me they are all easily valid choices.
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Vertigo frustrates me. Great director, very stylish, terrific plot. But Stewart is a complete control-freak and unlikable, Barbara Bel Geddes (spelled correctly?) is abysmal, and the mystery is spoiled way too soon and with very clumsy exposition. I hate the way "the letter" spoon-feeds the viewer.

Rear Window, on the other hand, is one of all-time top ten.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:40 AM   #3969
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Rear Window is Hitchcock's true masterpiece
Nothing unpopular about that
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:45 AM   #3970
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I love Hitchcock but I found Vertigo very overrated. The ending was laughable. Seriously, I literally laugh. It was ridiculous. My favorite film would have to be North By Northwest.

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...to come up with the best 30 films ever -- in any language -- seems pretty impossible to me.
No, no...it's completely possible. Ask any internet forum. Subjective opinion is fact.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:08 PM   #3972
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Vertigo and Citizen Kane aren’t part of the top three best films of all time.
I wonder how many people actually do believe that they are two of the top three?

I prefer North by Northwest to Vertigo. Citizen Kane may be of cinematic historical interest, but hasn't aged as well as some other movies of its era.
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No, no...it's completely possible. Ask any internet forum. Subjective opinion is fact.
Oh, I could MAKE a list. It's just that the list would be worth nothing ... to ME.

If, OTOH, I picked my favorite 30 films in, say, the Top 15 languages of import, again to ME, then that list would still have some serious flaws. But it would mean more to ME.

That's what I was attempting to get at.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:43 PM   #3974
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I love all things Kong, so I agree. Although I will say that I could have done without all the far too on-the-nose needle-drop music selections ("Run Through the Jungle"? Really? Someone thought that was clever? ). Otherwise, quite enjoyable for a big dumb monster smash-up.
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:03 AM   #3975
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Toy Story 3 was a much better ending to the franchise than Toy Story 4.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:36 AM   #3976
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John Ford is not the best director of westerns.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:37 AM   #3977
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I wonder how many people actually do believe that they are two of the top three?

I prefer North by Northwest to Vertigo. Citizen Kane may be of cinematic historical interest, but hasn't aged as well as some other movies of its era.
I think when the last vestiges of film scholars born before 1960 go away, those two movies will take their place. Vertigo for sure.
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Vertigo is still my favorite.

Then Psycho.

Then Rear Window.

HOWEVER, I would never, ever dismiss an opinion if someone chose one of those three. as to me they are all easily valid choices.
All of Hitchcock’s movies from the 50’s time period on have the stink of 50’s corporate filmmaking all over them. I would personally go with darker Hitchcock, like Shadow Of A Doubt or Frenzy or Rebecca(even Dial M for Murder is fun).I’m not the biggest Hitchcock fan so my viewpoint might be skewed to some.
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All of Hitchcock’s movies from the 50’s time period on have the stink of 50’s corporate filmmaking all over them. I would personally go with darker Hitchcock, like Shadow Of A Doubt or Frenzy or Rebecca(even Dial M for Murder is fun).I’m not the biggest Hitchcock fan so my viewpoint might be skewed to some.
I totally understand that. But I think it's interesting, in that I believe, just from this short exchange, that what probably turns you of those films a little is what I really like about them. Then again, I'm a huge fan of films from mid-50s through the late-60s. So those fit right in my wheelhouse to being with.

And Teresa Right and Joseph Cotten are tremendous in Shadow of a Doubt, while Rebecca is one of my favorite movies. We're probably on a closer lave length than you think.

As to Frenzy, I remember appreciating it years and years ago, but it's been SO long since I've seen it. I really need to rectify that. Thanks for reminding me!
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Since we're on Hitchcock:

The Trouble with Harry is a misunderstood masterpiece. Love that movie.
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