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Old 09-03-2019, 04:28 PM   #401
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Isn't it possible that Warner touched this up and that's why the colors pop more? I mean, DNR on a cartoon?
DNR has been done on plenty of Disney productions to various degrees, for example. It doesn't look like they did anything but overly filter it tbh.
Look at Johnny Quest and The Jetsons, you'll see how colors pop on those and they're nicely encoded and also not filtered to the same degree.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:33 PM   #402
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Even after hearing the complaints i still plan on purchasing this. still looks like a good upgrade from the DVD releases.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:36 PM   #403
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I just want a standard packaging of this set.

What are all the complaints people are having for this set?
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:19 PM   #404
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Isn't it possible that Warner touched this up and that's why the colors pop more? I mean, DNR on a cartoon?
A small amount of contrast boosting might explain the more saturated colors. But yes, DNR on a cartoon is definitely a thing -- many 'toons from this era and long before were shot on film (in this case, 35mm) and often display a natural amount of film grain visible in screenshots and in-motion. DNR takes away that texture to a certain degree, whether the subject is a live-action man or a talking Great Dane.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:37 PM   #405
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Is this going to show up in any B&M stores? Don’t want to gamble on receiving a damaged copy through the mail if I don’t have to. This seems like something right up Wal-mart’s alley.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:41 PM   #406
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Is this going to show up in any B&M stores? Don’t want to gamble on receiving a damaged copy through the mail if I don’t have to. This seems like something right up Wal-mart’s alley.
Someone a few pages back I think mentioned seeing it at Walmart over the weekend. My Walmart can barely get releases out a week within the release date for a given title. Not going to ever bother checking the locations near me until the end of the week.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:54 PM   #407
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Someone a few pages back I think mentioned seeing it at Walmart over the weekend. My Walmart can barely get releases out a week within the release date for a given title. Not going to ever bother checking the locations near me until the end of the week.
Cool. Thanks. I have a super Wal-mart 5 min from my house where I buy majority of my groceries anyways so I’ll keep my eyes open later this week when I stock up on food.
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Old 09-03-2019, 06:47 PM   #408
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Cool. Thanks. I have a super Wal-mart 5 min from my house where I buy majority of my groceries anyways so I’ll keep my eyes open later this week when I stock up on food.
I checked the Wal-Mart near me early this morning. They had all the other new releases, but no Scooby-Doo set unfortunately
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Old 09-03-2019, 07:32 PM   #409
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I plan on buying the BLu-ray set but I'm going to wait for the standard mass market release. I was worried that the permanent price for this release would be $80-90 but realized that we'll probably get a wide release with a more affordable price range.

Can't wait to see the general mass release. Hopefully, around $50, which would still be pricey for me but worth the price just to have this collection on Blu-ray. I'm grown up now but I still love the original Scooby-Doo. What I especially love are the chase songs from the back half of the second season.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:09 PM   #410
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I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about not buying this release, let alone for audio. But it's clear that WHV cut as many corners as possible to reduce their cost yet they're still charging a premium for this set. In my opinion, WAC would have done a much better overall job with this release.
The recent apparent change in policy at Warner which seems to be bringing titles out that we'd written off a year or two back might be responsible.
I'd guess Warner has the non HD audio streaming versions available and quite rightly realised they could slap them onto Bluray without really compromising the quality. HD audio is NOT required so why bother?
I'm also speculating that the change in policy needs to prove itself so if Warner can get suckers like us to shell out $70 for some tat instead of $30 for a standard release that will go toward showing the suits that the demand really is there.

However, the number of bonus features doesn't really indicate they cut as many corners as possible. They didn't really need to add any bonuses at all.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:12 PM   #411
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Not going to purchase. It looks like it's on BD-25s with crappy bitrates (only around 10 mbps), and the lossy DD audio. No reason at all for me to spend $80 on this "upgrade", I'll stick with the DVDs, which have ~80% of the quality of this very shoddy release. Waiting for the specific reviews, but am not hopeful that much quality can be pulled out of these old transfers and a max of 10 mbps video bitrate. Sad.
Even the streaming versions wipe the floor with the dvd's.
As the review explains , cheap animation doesn't need high bitrates. This isn't "24" you know.
And as pointed out already by more than one person - a very low budget (even in comparison to other Hanna Barbera of the same period) would not require HD audio to give us the average audio quality you have on this late 60's saturday morning kids show done as cheaply as possible
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:18 PM   #412
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Just got my copy from BullMoose and the house packaging is very sturdy. My order came in a big box with air pillows and plenty of bubble wrap. Then it the house itself is stored inside a hard plastic casing. One disc slid out but that's most likely on me or the post office and there is no damage whatsoever to the disc. The packaging really isn't that big and I already found a spot for it on my shelf. Plan on watching some of these episodes later after the Orioles doubleheader this afternoon.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:28 PM   #413
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Pretty disappointing considering the price point.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:34 PM   #414
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Pretty disappointing considering the price point.
It was always going to be disappointing to a certain extent because we knew it was overpriced for what we were getting and so much of the retail price was paying for the packaging that most people couldn't care less about
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:34 PM   #415
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the only good news of an unexpected bill, is that I canceled my pre order before 'cutoff' - i'm still interested and would go with a compact/space saving case over this, but I'm a bit cautious about Warner Home cartoon releases; getting more so with every misstep too

(how's that for a run on sentence? lol)
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:53 PM   #416
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Just got my copy from BullMoose and the house packaging is very sturdy. My order came in a big box with air pillows and plenty of bubble wrap. Then it the house itself is stored inside a hard plastic casing. One disc slid out but that's most likely on me or the post office and there is no damage whatsoever to the disc. The packaging really isn't that big and I already found a spot for it on my shelf. Plan on watching some of these episodes later after the Orioles doubleheader this afternoon.
I wish I would have ordered it from Bullmoose, and do use them often now for many of my movie/music purchases, but got trapped into Amazon's better price with the cart discount...

Amazon of course shipped it in an oversized loose bubble mailer, and it arrived with the outer plastic case split open on both sides and creased on the back cover BADLY. I mean would it hurt them to pack a rather pricey set like this in an actual box for protection? I contacted CS to complain and was given a full refund and they didn't say anything about having to send it back nor does it show any return process on the order...so I guess I can live with the cosmetic damage.
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the only good news of an unexpected bill, is that I canceled my pre order before 'cutoff' - i'm still interested and would go with a compact/space saving case over this, but I'm a bit cautious about Warner Home cartoon releases; getting more so with every misstep too

(how's that for a run on sentence? lol)
Assuming Warner need to wait for this to sell out before they issue a standard set it could be a long wait.
TT have difficulty shifting 3000 copies of some really great classic Hollywood movies so how long it will take to sell 50000 copies of this remains a mystery.
I'm sure it would take a while even in normal packaging but at $70

I'm guessing it might be like The Monkees at $200. And that was only 10000 copies
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Assuming Warner need to wait for this to sell out before they issue a standard set it could be a long wait.
TT have difficulty shifting 3000 copies of some really great classic Hollywood movies so how long it will take to sell 50000 copies of this remains a mystery.
I'm sure it would take a while even in normal packaging but at $70

I'm guessing it might be like The Monkees at $200. And that was only 10000 copies
i agree!!, but i have the dvds and have seen the series, so if fate is against me - i'll carry on (and it's not like i don't have a metric ton of unwatched/getting too media)

i'm suspecting that this set might be a Black Friday special, but
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I wish I would have ordered it from Bullmoose, and do use them often now for many of my movie/music purchases, but got trapped into Amazon's better price with the cart discount...

Amazon of course shipped it in an oversized loose bubble mailer, and it arrived with the outer plastic case split open on both sides and creased on the back cover BADLY. I mean would it hurt them to pack a rather pricey set like this in an actual box for protection? I contacted CS to complain and was given a full refund and they didn't say anything about having to send it back nor does it show any return process on the order...so I guess I can live with the cosmetic damage.
I'm sorry to hear that. They generally if you ask would send you a return label or you would print one as that's what they always did when I had to return something from them. Granted you would have to buy the box or mailer to send it back. It's been an eternity now since I've ordered something from Amazon with their sketchy packaging which seems to be more about cutting costs on the quality of packaging.

I paid $79.97 from BullMoose and was happy to pay a few extra dollars for peace of mind packaging wise. Amazon had this around $73-74 or something I believe?
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I'm sorry to hear that. They generally if you ask would send you a return label or you would print one as that's what they always did when I had to return something from them. Granted you would have to buy the box or mailer to send it back. It's been an eternity now since I've ordered something from Amazon with their sketchy packaging which seems to be more about cutting costs on the quality of packaging.

I paid $79.97 from BullMoose and was happy to pay a few extra dollars for peace of mind packaging wise. Amazon had this around $73-74 or something I believe?
They had a cart discount for a couple of weeks a few months back, so it was $68 with tax shipped on mine.

The email from CS (after the chat) said this: "On this occasion, we don't require you to return the original. You're welcome to keep, donate or dispose of it - whichever option is most appropriate and convenient for you."

But yeah, Amazon's packaging with movies/music products has become poor. Bubble mailers for some products can be fine, but for fragile items that are shipped "loose" in large bubble mailers it often spells disaster. With other products it's often still fine through Amazon...but with movies/music they have literally gone down the cheap route. At least their customer service is still good, I will say that.

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