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Old 09-05-2019, 05:32 PM   #41
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So then we are in the same boat, you can't sell your Discs because nobody wants them and I can't sell my Digital Collection. With spiraling decline of Disc Sales it's going to be Ancient History to have a Disc Collection. It also looks like 4K UHD will be the last Physical Disc, so your Collection will soon become dated. With 8K on the horizon that content will be Digital, and some Providers upgrade Digital. Like Vudu has upgraded some of my HDX Movies to UHD. So like I said Streaming Digital is the Future!
Which HDX titles from VUDU were upgraded to UHD? They have not upgraded a single one of mine. In fact, many of them are the old transfers from 10+ years ago (dark knight trilogy)
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So then we are in the same boat, you can't sell your Discs because nobody wants them and I can't sell my Digital Collection. With spiraling decline of Disc Sales it's going to be Ancient History to have a Disc Collection. It also looks like 4K UHD will be the last Physical Disc, so your Collection will soon become dated. With 8K on the horizon that content will be Digital, and some Providers upgrade Digital. Like Vudu has upgraded some of my HDX Movies to UHD. So like I said Streaming Digital is the Future!
Don't turn this into another physical media vs. digital thread. There is already a thread for that........
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:48 PM   #43
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Don't turn this into another physical media vs. digital thread. There is already a thread for that........
There is? Where?

Any time that a thread appears where someone says that they prefer one thing over the other, a "vs." thread is born. If I started a thread about buying a LED TV, the OLED crowd, and maybe even the projector crowd, would be there in an instant to tell me that I had made the wrong choice and vice versa.

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Old 09-05-2019, 08:47 PM   #44
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Which HDX titles from VUDU were upgraded to UHD? They have not upgraded a single one of mine. In fact, many of them are the old transfers from 10+ years ago (dark knight trilogy)
Recently it was John3Wick, I bought Code in HDX and got UHD. There's a Link that follows Vudu UHD upgrades, Close Encounters upgraded all three Versions to UHD. Vudu has also upgraded some SD to HDX like Pacific Heights with Michael Keaton and Melanie Griffith. The Dark Knight Trilogy only shows in HDX for the Bundle, but the separate Movies come in UHD. Yes I think Vudu is a great Streaming Provider.

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Old 09-05-2019, 09:29 PM   #45
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I like Vudu, too. I rent from them and what digital codes I have bothered to redeem are accessible through them.

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Old 09-05-2019, 09:55 PM   #46
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Which HDX titles from VUDU were upgraded to UHD? They have not upgraded a single one of mine. In fact, many of them are the old transfers from 10+ years ago (dark knight trilogy)
As far as I can tell, it's iTunes that gave free 4K upgrades. If you have Movies Anywhere though, you just benefited from the free iTunes 4K upgrade on all linked providers.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:45 PM   #47
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As far as I can tell, it's iTunes that gave free 4K upgrades. If you have Movies Anywhere though, you just benefited from the free iTunes 4K upgrade on all linked providers.
I have MA Linked to Vudu, but I'll never have iTunes. Still get the 4K upgrades in Vudu.
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Recently it was John3Wick, I bought Code in HDX and got UHD. There's a Link that follows Vudu UHD upgrades, Close Encounters upgraded all three Versions to UHD. Vudu has also upgraded some SD to HDX like Pacific Heights with Michael Keaton and Melanie Griffith. The Dark Knight Trilogy only shows in HDX for the Bundle, but the separate Movies come in UHD. Yes I think Vudu is a great Streaming Provider.
Those early release codes for John Wick 3 were converted into UHD codes (if unredeemed), but before that were redeeming HD.

Close Encounters and many other Sony movies were not upgraded, you must have already owned those UHD in UV. Vudu added those as "owned" in their system. Most/all only still play in HD until such time as Vudu adds a UHD encode. But already owned, not some generous UHD upgrade gift.

To give a rough idea of how it works, 4K is equal to 35mm, 8K is equal to 70mm (Lawrence of Arabia for example). For newly filmed content, the only benefit would to having the format would be content scanned from 70mm film or already filmed in 8K. One current example of that would be season 3 (and 2?) of Stranger Things, where you might actually want an 8K version since filmed in 8K.

4K is nothing without the accompanying HDR or DV color grading. The definition alone is not enough to see a difference, but combined with the color grading, UHD and HDR/DV help the other to achieve a film-like (or more effect 4K) image.
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As far as I can tell, it's iTunes that gave free 4K upgrades. If you have Movies Anywhere though, you just benefited from the free iTunes 4K upgrade on all linked providers.
And yes, this is the one case where redeeming in a service has resulted in 4K upgrades via MA, and thanks to Apple granting 4K/UHD MA rights.
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Old 09-05-2019, 11:13 PM   #50
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Life's too short. Do what feels right for you. You can make a valid argument for both schools of thought, and be absolutely right for your situation.

I would like to comment on an underlying theme that I sense from both sides of the spectrum, though.

Whether you have a digital or physical collection, do yourself a favor and actually WATCH them. Stop lamenting, stop procrastinating...get down to it. Make a plan to reasonably work through your collection. Even stop buying until you start watching.

I remember when my father passed away and there was this empty house, full of books and tapes...and, quite frankly, I knew that he only really ever gotten around to maybe enjoying a tenth of what he owned, if even that.

You have to ask yourself what are you buying this item for, and is it really serving you for a better purpose than before you were even aware of its existence?
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Who is Boong Joon Hoo?
I hope you're joking.

This board skews very casual and not much talk about foreign movies not named pan's labyrinth so I would not be surprised if you are not
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Do what is right for you and do not worry what anyone else, including me, thinks about your decision. My preference is beyond obvious and I will let that speak for itself, but I do want to say that I can not think of many instances where I ever paid $34.99 for a 4K disc; I very rarely spend more than $24.99 for a single movie on the 4K disc format. I often pay $19.99 or even less. I get the blu-ray AND the digital copy, too, for that price. You're either exaggerating the prices here or you were needlessly over paying.
Again, be happy with your decision; you are doing what you deem to be best for you and that is all the validation that you need. Further, this choice, while hard for you, is rather inconsequential in that it is not irreversible. You can change your mind at any time as your situation evolves, or not, as you see fit.
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Again, be happy with your decision; you are doing what you deem to be best for you and that is all the validation that you need. Further, this choice, while hard for you, is rather inconsequential in that it is not irreversible. You can change your mind at any time as your situation evolves, or not, as you see fit.
Why are you quoting me ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...09&postcount=3 ) without acknowledgement? And then you reply with my exact words from another one of my posts ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=19 third paragraph)? Every single word in your post are actually lifted verbatim from two of my earlier posts.

Do you like my comments so much that you want to claim them as your own? I'm both flattered and frightened.

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I just can no longer afford the shelf space (or money) to support $34.99 4K releases
Do that many people pay $35 for 4k disc? I have around 20 so far and have yet to spend over $13. I guess if you struggle with self control and can’t wait a few months on a sale. I buy around 20 films during the year between Black Fridays then pick up around 10 titles on Black Friday. Most newer 4k releases are between $8-$15 if you can exercise patience. I’m not pressed for money, but I’m frugal. If you don’t mind spending $35 more power to you but it sounds like it is an issue for the OP. Sure digital is cheaper sooner it seems, but if you wait just a little while longer you can own the physical and digital for around the same price and often less.
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Do that many people pay $35 for 4k disc? I have around 20 so far and have yet to spend over $13. I guess if you struggle with self control and can’t wait a few months on a sale. I buy around 20 films during the year between Black Fridays then pick up around 10 titles on Black Friday. Most newer 4k releases are between $8-$15 if you can exercise patience. I’m not pressed for money, but I’m frugal. If you don’t mind spending $35 more power to you but it sounds like it is an issue for the OP. Sure digital is cheaper sooner it seems, but if you wait just a little while longer you can own the physical and digital for around the same price and often less.
For Marvel SteelBooks, it's either $30-35 for new release or $60+ later on ebay.
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I went all digital about 5 years ago and never looked back, can watch my content on all of my devices, free 4K upgrades, all stored on the cloud which makes it safer than my physical copy being damaged/lost/stolen. Physical sales haven’t been doing well for several years now, most people are shifting to digital & streaming. You still get people who want physical but all depends on what you want. I will say that some people on this site have a very old man “get off my lawn” approach when it comes to digital, don’t pay them any mind.

As for buying digital vs. streaming...I knew when Netflix came out that everyone else would jump on board and there would eventually be dozens of networks offering subscriptions. I just left cable and didn’t want to get into another monthly bill, also I don’t like shelling out money for content I don’t watch, and I cant afford subscriptions to 5 different services for the content I want so I ended up buying all of my content through itunes. Anything I want I just buy when its a good price. No subscriptions/advertisements, etc. You can price track it and pick it up when its on sale.

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I went all digital about 5 years ago and never looked back, can watch my content on all of my devices, free 4K upgrades, all stored on the cloud which makes it safer than my physical copy being damaged/lost/stolen. Physical sales haven’t been doing well for several years now, most people are shifting to digital & streaming. You still get people who want physical but all depends on what you want. I will say that some people on this site have a very old man “get off my lawn” approach when it comes to digital, don’t pay them any mind.

As for buying digital vs. streaming...I knew when Netflix came out that everyone else would jump on board and there would eventually be dozens of networks offering subscriptions. I just left cable and didn’t want to get into another monthly bill, also I don’t like shelling out money for content I don’t watch, and I cant afford subscriptions to 5 different services for the content I want so I ended up buying all of my content through itunes. Anything I want I just buy when its a good price. No subscriptions/advertisements, etc. You can price track it and pick it up when its on sale.
People switching to digital just shows how easily human beings are exploited by marketing. We now have a format that looks like it won’t last. Digital sales are only up by single digits which is very unhealthy at this early stage. So, people have abandoned the best quality you can get, to invest in a clearly inferior format. For what? The ability to watch Avengers on a 4 inch screen? Ummmmmm, great! ::

We also have a situation where control is about to be handed to the studios, so don’t be surprised to see films you own, censored and cut.

It is my opinion, that people who have switched to digital, are not true film fans.

I can’t say I’m sorry that Digital HD growth seems to be grinding to a halt.
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Why are you quoting me ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...09&postcount=3 ) without acknowledgement? And then you reply with my exact words from another one of my posts ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=19 third paragraph)? Every single word in your post are actually lifted verbatim from two of my earlier posts.

Do you like my comments so much that you want to claim them as your own? I'm both flattered and frightened.
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I went all digital about 5 years ago and never looked back, can watch my content on all of my devices, free 4K upgrades, all stored on the cloud which makes it safer than my physical copy being damaged/lost/stolen. Physical sales haven’t been doing well for several years now, most people are shifting to digital & streaming. You still get people who want physical but all depends on what you want. I will say that some people on this site have a very old man “get off my lawn” approach when it comes to digital, don’t pay them any mind.

As for buying digital vs. streaming...I knew when Netflix came out that everyone else would jump on board and there would eventually be dozens of networks offering subscriptions. I just left cable and didn’t want to get into another monthly bill, also I don’t like shelling out money for content I don’t watch, and I cant afford subscriptions to 5 different services for the content I want so I ended up buying all of my content through itunes. Anything I want I just buy when its a good price. No subscriptions/advertisements, etc. You can price track it and pick it up when its on sale.
Blu-ray and 4K movies were meant to be seen on a big screen, not on a 9" cellphones, laptops, iPads and so forth.
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For big action packed, sci-fi, or horror movies that are good I try to pick up the 4K but for cartoons and comedy and such I go digital. Also movies have gotten really really bad lately and I am buying less movies anyways. Just rent them first and buy only the good ones, that will save you a ton right there, since they're not many good ones nowadays. Also with blu-ray.com price history and price watch being gone a lot of people buy less I would say.
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