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Horror of Fang Rock was the end of the road for me. Although I did enjoy some of the 80s serials.
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Is it really 7 discs for a 4 serial series?
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The Curse Of Fenric DVD Special Edition |
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Well this is an easy buy for me. Just disappointed they didn't keep this one till last to end the series on a high. Also finally Curse of Fenric gets a making of documentary.
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Nope, that was apparently a creative decision as the scene works without it on the SE. The DVD SE is a totally different re-edit, different scene ordering etc. to the transmitted versions. The VHS extended version just added extra bits into the transmitted version where they would fit.
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Seasons 10 and 26 are my two favorite seasons of Classic Who, so you can bet that this Doctor Who fan is having a happy 2019.
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Too many people who dislike the show's latest incarnation (and yes, the last season was terrible in so many ways) try to project their own dislike onto the show's general reception and commercial viability, building up wishful thinking scenarios where the BBC will see the error of its ways and purge the show of those they dislike (you see the same thing with Daniel Craig's Bond films: even the last two films grossing $2b between them isn't enough to dislodge the insistence of those who hate his Bond that the era is a complete failure and the series' future is in serious trouble). The best that can be realistically hoped for is that Chibnall goes before then, though the length of JNT's tenure despite growing audience discontent and falling ratings because no-one else wanted the job doesn't make that look very likely: the job is a poisoned chalice and as long as the money keeps rolling in - and it is - the BBC will just leave him to it, no matter how increasingly inept he is at it. As far as the BBC is concerned, the last season of the show was a success and has attracted a new audience that more than compensates for any 'lost' fans that the Corporation haven't taken very seriously anyway since the 70s (though in all probability they're still doggedly watching it through gritted teeth). Last edited by Aclea; 09-09-2019 at 03:46 AM. |
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#73 |
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Sep 2016
Brighton, UK
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The media rallying behind a woke show isn’t a metric of success though.
Look at the difference between the media’s reaction to The Last Jedi and the audience’s. Virtue signalling beats out good stories every time in the woke media’s eyes. It’s all about staying “on message”. Last edited by RossyG; 09-09-2019 at 05:31 AM. |
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But the better ratings than Capaldi got are just such a metric: season 11 episodes in both the UK and US were up - in the UK over a million more people watched the S11 finale than the last episode of Capaldi's last season. They got the best consolidated ratings for the show since 2013 (and much better ratings than season 26 got at a time when there was a larger pool of viewers and fewer channels to choose from). And that's with the hardcore Whovians supposedly turning their back on the show and refusing to watch by that point.
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Doctor Who, like Bond, Transformers and Star Wars, is another property prone to that wishful thinking fans echo chamber that's outside the general audience and not reflective of the general audience reaction. The last season was a stinker, but that's never been a hindrance for success: it took five by most accounts exponentially worse Transformers films for the box-office to take a significant hit even though fans were insisting it was doomed from the start for changing too much from the TV series, just as hardcore fans of the comics who never forgave the X-Men for giving up the yellow spandex had to wait eight films before the box-office disaster they constantly predicted struck (by contrast, Whittaker will just have the usual three seasons). If the quality doesn't improve (and it's doubtful they'll even try after getting good ratings and a free pass from critics in S11 removing any incentive to improve or would be able to even if they did make the effort) the ratings for Who may continue their decline to the point where there genuinely is a problem, but at the moment the show is definitely a success with the general public. Last edited by Aclea; 09-09-2019 at 06:37 AM. |
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To be honest the show has always been pretty woke - or at least since the colour era and never more so than in Pertwee's run - but they did it with a lighter touch and without stopping the story dead in its tracks to heavy-handedly hit you over the head with a lecture the way the last season did (though to fair RTD's insistence on constantly stopping the plot dead to 'out' supporting characters as gay and proud for no narrative reason was just as clumsy and heavy-handed).
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As for your other points, The Force Awakens, Rogue One and The Last Jedi were among the highest grossing films in their respective years, merchandise for those films sold well (reports of TLJ merchandise being on clearance was because the merchandise was released too early and toy stores wanted space for new stock) and Solo bombed not because of 'TLJ backlash' but because it was a film no one had interest in seeing alongside it recasting a beloved character (no one wanted a Han Solo prequel, especially one without Harrison Ford). Disney Star Wars is doing just fine. Disney is raking in billions from it every year and it's one of their best-performing brands alongside Marvel, Frozen, Disney Princess, Cars and Toy Story. |
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#78 |
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Sep 2016
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Merchandise sales are declining, as are book and comic sales, according to Disney's own fiscal report. Rogue One toys sold less than Force Awaken toys, which Disney and Hasbro had expected, but Last Jedi toys sold less than Rogue One toys, which Disney and Hasbro certainly hadn't expected.
The Last Jedi made $1,332,539,889 worldwide. If Solo was a blip, then Rise of the Skywalker should approach or exceed that. If it makes less than a billion then that confirms that SW is on a downward trajectory. But getting back on topic, I like The Curse of Fenric. ![]() |
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It also didn't help that none of the main characters in TLJ had new looks. Only Rey, Luke and Leia debuted massively different looks to TFA, everyone else just had variations of their TFA costumes (Kylo and Finn are pretty much exactly the same bar Kylo's scar and a patch on Finn's jacket). So it's no surprise that everyone is debuting vastly different looks for Rise of Skywalker; to help boost merchandise sales. It's essentially what Marvel do; all the superheroes have hugely different looks in each film in order to boost merchandise sales. Kids and parents won't buy toys of existing characters if they look exactly the same as they did last time, essentially buying the same toy again. |
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Aug 2010
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The popular wisdom about Solo being a box office dud also needs qualifying a little bit. Solo had an opening weekend well over $100 million. That's bigger than any James Bond movie ever bar one. Better than any Star Trek movie ever bar one. Better than any Planet of the Apes, Jason Bourne, Alien or even Indiana Jones movie (even if most of them belong to a different era). Better than either of the Fantastic Beasts movies. Point being, Star Wars on the absolute floor is still putting up numbers that most other high profile franchises would love to have.
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