The Official Martin Logan Speakers Thread

[prerich]

The only thing I wish about this system is that those ML's had more room out to the sides to breath!!!! Ahhhhhh!

[billt928]

Originally Posted by prerich

The only thing I wish about this system is that those ML's had more room out to the sides to breath!!!! Ahhhhhh!

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

Ouch!

John

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

You should have a discussion with richteer (he's just picked up some Spires) and he toe's them OUT slightly! Mind you, he's got room...like a lot of room!

John

[Oddiophile]

A good starting point for setting up your Martin Logan ESL's is 3 feet from the back wall, 2 feet from the side walls, and your listening position 10 feet back from the speakers.

For toeing in the speakers Jim Power's toe in technique is the best and very easy to do. Jim Powers is the service manager at Martin Logan.



"My technique for ideal toe-in is pretty low tech but extremely accurate. Get a flashlight. Sit in the listening seat. Hold the flashlight directly above the top of your head. Aim the beam of light at the electrostatic element of each SL3. You will see a vertical streak of light reflected off of the film inside the grid. It will be a very narrow and distinct vertical streak. As you change the toe-in of the speaker, the vertical streak will move across the front of the speaker. Toe the speaker until the light streak is between 1 ½ to 2 inches from the edge of the wood trim on the inboard side. In this position, the SL3s will be aimed past you to the outside. In other words you will not be facing the dead center of the speakers. You will be facing the inner 1/3rd of the panels curve.

This technique works extremely well regardless of the distance to the speakers or even between the speakers. It will also provide you with the flattest response across the bandwidth.
Hope it works for you, jp"

[billt928]

Originally Posted by Oddiophile

A good starting point for setting up your Martin Logan ESL's is 3 feet from the back wall, 2 feet from the side walls, and your listening position 10 feet back from the speakers.

For toeing in the speakers Jim Power's toe in technique is the best and very easy to do. Jim Powers is the service manager at Martin Logan.



"My technique for ideal toe-in is pretty low tech but extremely accurate. Get a flashlight. Sit in the listening seat. Hold the flashlight directly above the top of your head. Aim the beam of light at the electrostatic element of each SL3. You will see a vertical streak of light reflected off of the film inside the grid. It will be a very narrow and distinct vertical streak. As you change the toe-in of the speaker, the vertical streak will move across the front of the speaker. Toe the speaker until the light streak is between 1 ½ to 2 inches from the edge of the wood trim on the inboard side. In this position, the SL3s will be aimed past you to the outside. In other words you will not be facing the dead center of the speakers. You will be facing the inner 1/3rd of the panels curve.

This technique works extremely well regardless of the distance to the speakers or even between the speakers. It will also provide you with the flattest response across the bandwidth.
Hope it works for you, jp"

Yes I do know the toe-in with the flashlight, not sure if this is a good thing but Jim Powers knows me by name

[richteer]

Originally Posted by John72953

You should have a discussion with richteer (he's just picked up some Spires) and he toe's them OUT slightly! Mind you, he's got room...like a lot of room!

John

Seems like you've provided me with the perfect excuse to post a pic of my system. :-)

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by richteer

Seems like you've provided me with the perfect excuse to post a pic of my system. :-)

Anything to help a friend, Rich!

John

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by richteer

Seems like you've provided me with the perfect excuse to post a pic of my system. :-)

THAT IS SWEET ! I'll bet with those tube amp's it sounds WONDERFUL !!!!

[richteer]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

THAT IS SWEET ! I'll bet with those tube amp's it sounds WONDERFUL !!!!

If I may be so bold, it does. :-)

Lights out, volume up. What a great way to spend a couple of hours!

[got rice]

Originally Posted by richteer

Seems like you've provided me with the perfect excuse to post a pic of my system. :-)

Richteer,
Thats some serious vinyl you have...What type of music do you listen to?

May I also ask, what kind of tube amps are those? I've only read about them never really listen to any.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by got rice

Richteer,
Thats some serious vinyl you have...What type of music do you listen to?

May I also ask, what kind of tube amps are those? I've only read about them never really listen to any.

Thanks for the complement. What you can see in that picture is about 75% of my collection (I have about 1300 records in all). I listen to most types of music, though mostly pop and rock. I have literally every letter of the alphabet represented, from Abba to ZZ Top. I also like listening to some jazz and classical music. So pretty much everything really, except hip-hop.

I don't mind you asking about my tube amps at all! My power amps (that you can see in the photo) are tube monoblocks called PrimaLuna ProLogue 7s (so each chassis is a mono amp). My preamp is a tube/MOSFET hybrid, the Audio Research SP-9 Mk 2. Finally, my frontend is a Forsell Air Reference turntable and arm, with a Lyra Parnassus cartridge. I don't listen to CD except as occassional background music.

Edit: More details about my system--and a few more pics--can be found the Rich Teer's Audio System thread.

[got rice]

Originally Posted by richteer

Thanks for the complement. What you can see in that picture is about 75% of my collection (I have about 1300 records in all). I listen to most types of music, though mostly pop and rock. I have literally every letter of the alphabet represented, from Abba to ZZ Top. I also like listening to some jazz and classical music. So pretty much everything really, except hip-hop.

I don't mind you asking about my tube amps at all! My power amps (that you can see in the photo) are tube monoblocks called PrimaLuna ProLogue 7s (so each chassis is a mono amp). My preamp is a tube/MOSFET hybrid, the Audio Research SP-9 Mk 2. Finally, my frontend is a Forsell Air Reference turntable and arm, with a Lyra Parnassus cartridge. I don't listen to CD except as occassional background music.

Edit: More details about my system--and a few more pics--can be found the Rich Teer's Audio System thread.

Rich,
Nice setup you have. Any Grateful Dead "Anthem of the Sun" in the vinyl collection? That would sound inspiring with your setup. I checked out your "audio" gallery and was really impressed. It is something to be proud of.
P.S. sorry for the delayed response, been kinda busy with work.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

ahhhhhh!!!!!!

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by billt928

When I crank it up, I do move them out by 3 feet from the back wall and move them two feet in at an angle, and they vanish

Crank it up = 115db + steady with peakes to 125db

That's what I'm talking about!

[mr peepers]

If there's room for an official B&W owner's thread, I think there's plenty of room for a ML thread.

I don't have anywhere near enough room for even the moderately priced martin logans, but I do have any Abyss sub and I absolutely love it.

I've been going back and forth between the Abyss or swapping it out for a Supercube I. I don't think there's anyway I could give up the abyss though anymore. Anyone looking for an awesome down/front firing sub at a moderate price tag, check this guy out. Even the little brother, the Dynamo, sounds exceptional.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by prerich

The only thing I wish about this system is that those ML's had more room out to the sides to breath!!!! Ahhhhhh!

I was going to mention that! Move them away from the front wall too, Bill. You'll get much better sound! My Spires are about 5 feet into the room and 4 feet from the sides.