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Coatchief · 10-27-2019, 01:12 PM

Didn't sound very much like Bill even wants to be in this business anymore. He needs some new inspiration. The offer of 3yrs worth of meals at Sbarros might have been tempting but he's still not gonna release The Farmer.

JasonMichael · 10-27-2019, 04:37 PM

He doesn't think it will sell, and he wants a lot of money for the rights?
When the seller is trying to make a deal for more money, he should be hyping the fact that it will sell well, and that's why it will be worth more to licence it.
He is quite the business man.

John Lyons · 10-27-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

Hell yes I do! Fantastic entertainment. So, for the million dollar question: should I get in the 'cage' to get THE FARMER released?

Bill didn't seem too enthusiastic about the suggestion and it's his movie so he really has the final say in the matter, cage fight or not.

You keep saying I refused to get in the ring. I have never said any such thing. I asked Dark Force fans for their opinions. I got a lukewarm response. So I'll pose the question again. I'm game if it gets The Farmer released.

ProfondoRosso · 10-27-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

You keep saying I refused to get in the ring. I have never said any such thing. I asked Dark Force fans for their opinions. I got a lukewarm response. So I'll pose the question again. I'm game if it gets The Farmer released.

I certainly appreciate your willingness to throw down for the sake of THE FARMER, but I believe the general consensus is “What’s the point?” Dave beats you up and then...Dave still can’t obtain the rights from Bill? Wah wah. Save that sweet mug of yours from what would be truly senseless violence.

John Lyons · 10-27-2019, 05:29 PM

Another idea on THE FARMER: I'll buy 1000 copies at wholesale.

Detroit Grindhouse · 10-27-2019, 05:46 PM

It's hard to piece together exactly what Bill was getting at during the livestream but, if I am understanding correctly, he is afraid SAG and other groups will come after him because cast and crew are still owed money from the production of the film. I guess, being the rights owner, he would now be responsible for that and wouldn't be able to sell enough copies to offset what he paid for the film itself and to pay all the unions off. Sounds like a hot mess to me.

moviegeek1992 · 10-27-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

Another idea on THE FARMER: I'll buy 1000 copies at wholesale.

How about Vinegar Syndrome teaming up with Code Red and Dark Force Entertainment to release the The Farmer on Blu-ray alongside a limited edition UHD, complete with a lenticular glow in the dark slipcase?

whiteberry · 10-27-2019, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

Another idea on THE FARMER: I'll buy 1000 copies at wholesale.

mca213 · 10-27-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

Another idea on THE FARMER: I'll buy 1000 copies at wholesale.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

John Lyons · 10-27-2019, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by moviegeek1992

How about Vinegar Syndrome teaming up with Code Red and Dark Force Entertainment to release the The Farmer on Blu-ray alongside a limited edition UHD, complete with a lenticular glow in the dark slipcase?

If they're into it, I am.

whiteberry · 10-27-2019, 08:17 PM

This development calls for an emergency livestream...get the Bananaman on the phone or meet him at Sbarro's and do it live from there.

rdodolak · 10-27-2019, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by indravayu

Pro Tip: when Bill is drugged out of his mind and incoherently babbling, it's probably not a good idea to do a livestream.

After all of these live stream data points, it would be better to do the live stream during the day instead of late at night. Bill wants to sleep at night.

Lianzantoro · 10-27-2019, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Detroit Grindhouse

It's hard to piece together exactly what Bill was getting at during the livestream but, if I am understanding correctly, he is afraid SAG and other groups will come after him because cast and crew are still owed money from the production of the film. I guess, being the rights owner, he would now be responsible for that and wouldn't be able to sell enough copies to offset what he paid for the film itself and to pay all the unions off. Sounds like a hot mess to me.

If Bill is liable as the rights holder he could be sued regardless of whether or not he releases the film. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think there would be a statute of limitations for a film that is over forty years old.

indravayu · 10-28-2019, 01:17 AM

What if The Farmer actually sucks as a movie and, once people realize this, it only sells 300 copies?

Member-222782 · 10-28-2019, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by indravayu

What if The Farmer actually sucks as a movie and, once people realize this, it only sells 300 copies?

lmao

SpiderBaby · 10-28-2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by indravayu

What if The Farmer actually sucks as a movie and, once people realize this, it only sells 300 copies?

Easy, pair it with another horrible movie, Iced.

vortexx · 10-28-2019, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lianzantoro

If Bill is liable as the rights holder he could be sued regardless of whether or not he releases the film. I'm no lawyer, but I'd think there would be a statute of limitations for a film that is over forty years old.

I doubt they can sue Bill. Most contracts have a clause that protects the distributor from legal action. The rights seller would be responsible in this case. Besides, most indie filmmakers throughout history get ripped off by distributors. I never got a cent on the first release of a movie I made. If you read Nightmare USA, it's full of filmmakers saying they got ripped off. There is probably a statute of limitations on this sort of thing too.

Dark Force · 10-28-2019, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by John Lyons

If they're into it, I am.

Mr. Lyons this is Tom the General Manager for Dark Force. Perhaps you would be interested in partaking in the next round of debates scheduled for The Farmer live on Facebook. We could arrange to have you as a phoned in guest participant.

Davidian · 10-28-2019, 09:42 AM

Where's that ladykiller Joel when you need him?

Member-222782 · 10-28-2019, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidian

Where's that ladykiller Joel when you need him?

Out with ladies, where else? Campaigning for Iced on a message forum is just his "in-between the ladies" hobby. BTW, I found out that Iced was made for only $10,000. That's like the breakfast catering budget for one day for major studio films lmao. I don't know if I want to watch a film whose budget was so small it probably barely covered the purchase of old film stock. Probably a chore to sit through.

10-27-2019, 01:12 PM	#9101
Coatchief Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2018 Location:Canada 4K collection:285 Blu-ray collection:3929 DVD collection:933	Didn't sound very much like Bill even wants to be in this business anymore. He needs some new inspiration. The offer of 3yrs worth of meals at Sbarros might have been tempting but he's still not gonna release The Farmer.

10-27-2019, 04:37 PM	#9102
JasonMichael Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2018 Location:Pembroke, Ontario, Canada	He doesn't think it will sell, and he wants a lot of money for the rights? When the seller is trying to make a deal for more money, he should be hyping the fact that it will sell well, and that's why it will be worth more to licence it. He is quite the business man.

10-27-2019, 05:29 PM	#9105
John Lyons Special Member Member since:May 2014	Another idea on THE FARMER: I'll buy 1000 copies at wholesale.

10-27-2019, 05:46 PM	#9106
Detroit Grindhouse Active Member Member since:Aug 2017 Location:Detroit, MI 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	It's hard to piece together exactly what Bill was getting at during the livestream but, if I am understanding correctly, he is afraid SAG and other groups will come after him because cast and crew are still owed money from the production of the film. I guess, being the rights owner, he would now be responsible for that and wouldn't be able to sell enough copies to offset what he paid for the film itself and to pay all the unions off. Sounds like a hot mess to me.

10-27-2019, 08:17 PM	#9111
whiteberry Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2013	This development calls for an emergency livestream...get the Bananaman on the phone or meet him at Sbarro's and do it live from there.

10-28-2019, 01:17 AM	#9114
indravayu Banned Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:1309 DVD collection:118	What if The Farmer actually sucks as a movie and, once people realize this, it only sells 300 copies?

10-28-2019, 09:42 AM	#9119
Davidian Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Perth 4K collection:94 Blu-ray collection:1985 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:12	Where's that ladykiller Joel when you need him?

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