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Old 03-09-2009, 07:58 PM   #1
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i just wanted to know how much would a studio half to spend to make an old catologue movie have reference grade audio or is it even possible to do so especially movies from the 70's,80's, and early 90's.
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i just wanted to know how much would a studio half to spend to make an old catologue movie have reference grade audio or is it even possible to do so especially movies from the 70's,80's, and early 90's.
I don't know how it cost to make, but Baraka is reference grade audio and video and it was filmed in the 80's
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probably, but as seen with some movies that originally had a mono mix like Pincohico, I mean they did everything they could to upgrade the sound, I mean it's even 7.1 now, but still, it was recorded mono, but I'm talking about the 40s. Movies made in the 80s-90s can easily have amazing audio.
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As long as the original master tapes and audio stems are in good shape, there is no reason for older films NOT to have great audio quality.
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What I do know is that I love the job Paramount did on the GODFATHER movies.
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2001 has reference audio, absoutly amazing. Close Encounters is also great, Blade Runner is amazing. Bottom line is that older movies can defiently have reference quality audio
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There can be reference quality Mono too
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There can be reference quality Mono too
Absolutely. As long as the tapes are in good shape, mono tracks can sound perfectly clear.
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I mean can they sound as good as transformers,Cloverfield, and wanted. I mean like a true non stop bass heavy floor shaking soundtrack can an old catologue title sound that good if remastered right.
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I mean can they sound as good as transformers,Cloverfield, and wanted. I mean like a true non stop bass heavy floor shaking soundtrack can an old catologue title sound that good if remastered right.
in 2001, check out the "beyond the infinite" chapter, with the journey across the color-filled galaxies...my sub has never got such a workout from this 1968 audio
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in 2001, check out the "beyond the infinite" chapter, with the journey across the color-filled galaxies...my sub has never got such a workout from this 1968 audio
I haven't bought 2001 yet is the sound really that good compared to like wanted or incredibile hulk.
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I mean can they sound as good as transformers,Cloverfield, and wanted. I mean like a true non stop bass heavy floor shaking soundtrack can an old catologue title sound that good if remastered right.
so what you're saying, is that you don't KNOW what a reference quality audio-track is........ sorry... I was confused.
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Many variables come into play with being able to remaster the audio from an older movie with levels of quality comparable to what is produced today.

If the original magnetic master tapes are in great shape then it's certainly possible to make a movie 20 or 30 years old sound fantastic. Not every master tape is stored in environmentally controlled vaults unfortunately.

The outcome also depends on what levels of professionalism and quality were used in creating the original audio tracks. Dolby noise reduction has existed for movie production and presentation since the early 1970s. Star Wars is arguably the watershed moment in film history where modern, high quality multichannel surround sound was born. Since 1976, when the first mag-coated 70mm prints with Dolby NR were distributed, various incremental steps have been made.

Analog audio quality reached its peak in the late 1980s with technologies like Dolby SR extending head room and lowering noise floors well beyond what 16-bit digital audio could produce. Some of these kinds of tapes can and have been used in creating 24-bit 96kHz digital audio tracks.

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I don't know how it cost to make, but Baraka is reference grade audio and video and it was filmed in the 80's
Actually, Baraka was first released in theaters in 1992.
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Actually, Baraka was first released in theaters in 1992.
shot and released are two different things, my friend

please no one take that out of context..
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Many variables come into play with being able to remaster the audio from an older movie with levels of quality comparable to what is produced today.

If the original magnetic master tapes are in great shape then it's certainly possible to make a movie 20 or 30 years old sound fantastic. Not every master tape is stored in environmentally controlled vaults unfortunately.

The outcome also depends on what levels of professionalism and quality were used in creating the original audio tracks. Dolby noise reduction has existed for movie production and presentation since the early 1970s. Star Wars is arguably the watershed moment in film history where modern, high quality multichannel surround sound was born. Since 1976, when the first mag-coated 70mm prints with Dolby NR were distributed, various incremental steps have been made.

Analog audio quality reached its peak in the late 1980s with technologies like Dolby SR extending head room and lowering noise floors well beyond what 16-bit digital audio could produce. Some of these kinds of tapes can and have been used in creating 24-bit 96kHz digital audio tracks.



Actually, Baraka was first released in theaters in 1992.
Thank you finally somebody with an answer thank you i appreciate it
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I haven't bought 2001 yet is the sound really that good compared to like wanted or incredibile hulk.
haven't seen wanted or incredible hulk. however, compared to audio like Master and Commander, Cloverfield, etc.

is it as good as them? not quite. but its still excellent.
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Dont know how much it cost but... when i watched Zulu (1964) on blu, it looked great but the sound was awful, no 5.1 or 7.1
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Watch The Thing cranked for some reference audio. Amazing.

Close Encounters is awesome too.
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