The Wizard of Oz 4K UHD (1939) (80th, 85th Anniversary Edition)

[Noremac Mij]

Having now watched this UHD, it looks stunning.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Vertizontal

Can't wait to watch this on saturday night, perfect Halloween weekend movie!

My digital code is free to the first person to PM me and say "Trick or Treat"

EDIT: GONE!

The Wizard of Oz wouldn't be a good Halloween movie because, it's not horror. The Wizard of Oz is a musical, so you ought to watch a good horror movie.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Picking my copy up tomorrow.

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Are you watching on the A1E as in your sig? Make sure that your colour space is on Auto and colour temp is on Expert 1.

So, uhm, why do people keep recommending Expert 1 for Sonys? I tried it on my 900E for like the last two months and find the tint unnatural. Film enthusiasts are always complaining about revisionist tint/color on Blu-ray releases, which is why this confuses me so.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Bn43

So, uhm, why do people keep recommending Expert 1 for Sonys? I tried it on my 900E for like the last two months and find the tint unnatural. Film enthusiasts are always complaining about revisionist tint/color on Blu-ray releases, which is why this confuses me so.

It’s not a tint.

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

It’s not a tint.

It gives a slightly yellow appearance.

The other one people often recommend is Cinema Pro, which, after brief testing, also seems to manipulate the picture too much.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Bn43

It gives a slightly yellow appearance.

This is completely untrue. If you’re watching on one of the cooler settings, you are used to a bluish tint. You should switch to the warmest setting and give several months to get used to. Then switching back, you will see how wrong it looks. Out of the box, even the warmest setting is usually over 6500K before calibration. So even with the warmest setting, it’s much too cool. Projected movies have a temperature of about 5000K-5500K. Home video at 6500K in general is not very pleasant to look at and the cooler settings are just ridiculous. One reason why I like my OLED C8 is that it has a “Warm 3” setting. Which is a bit warmer than 6500K. It’s very nice indeed.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Bn43

It gives a slightly yellow appearance.

This is common for someone who has been using inaccurate picture modes like standard and vivid. Your eyes become accustomed to a cooler temperature in whites. D65 for white balance is white. If you look outside say at a white car on a sunny day it will have a yellow tint from the sun reflecting.

Now that being said it’s your tv and there is no home theatre police so watch whatever settings you like. Just know, you’re moving away from reference.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

This is common for someone who has been using inaccurate picture modes like standard and vivid. Your eyes become accustomed to a cooler temperature in whites. D65 for white balance is white.

It stands to reason that the viewing environment is coming into play. These new panels are really something else, but they lend themselves to hyper scrutiny. A well regarded calibration pro will create profiles for pitch black viewing and for ambient light. I appreciate the fact that $450 is real money. Well, it is for me. So, I simply would encourage members here to budget for panel and calibration. Frankly, those who do can narrow down their panel choice and then make a concerted effort to get that street price that leaves room for a calibration a few months after.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Bn43

So, uhm, why do people keep recommending Expert 1 for Sonys? I tried it on my 900E for like the last two months and find the tint unnatural. Film enthusiasts are always complaining about revisionist tint/color on Blu-ray releases, which is why this confuses me so.

Because movies intended for home use are mastered to the D65 white point which Expert 1 will get you closest to 'out of the box' without a further white balance calibration with a colourimeter and measuring software. Like it or not, that's literally the reference standard for home viewing so the further away you move from that (in either direction, warmer still or more cold and blue) the further away you're moving from what it's intended to be. Again, for better or worse.

But given enough time it's remarkable how the eye adapts to D65, it does indeed seem "too yellow" or whatever at first glance but now when I see a TV with the temp set to Neutral or Cool I think it looks horrid, so cold and dead, and too much blue in there will skew the reproduction of the colours themselves. Once you adjust to that warmer balance then you really see how better defined colours become vs those heavy blue tints, in a way it's analogous to what the studios typically do with SDR and HDR grades, particularly when comparing new HDR to legacy SDR. The heavy greeny/blue tints of many existing SDR grades really do pervert the colours and greatly play down their subtleties in favour of a blanket colour wash, whereas the more neutral approach to HDR allows more nuance and depth to individual colours. (Though I realise that that approach isn't ideal for everything, and subtlety is not what people want from a three-strip Techni picture! )

[Vangeli]

How many displays offer a color temp setting that’s “too warm?” I doubt very few do if any and the warmest setting in my experience is always the most accurate.

[jiggyblau]

Originally Posted by rallymonkey

Who cares about the picture!!! Can anyone confirm if this comes with a slipcover? I got mine in the mail from Target....no slipcover!!!!! WTF

Mine came today from Target with a slip. But the discs are loose. Collecting movies is fun!

[hoejunter]

Mine finally arrived

Currently 15 minutes in, really impressed so far. WB have outdone themselves yet again!

[HD Goofnut]

Just watched the first 30 minutes or so on my large display and talk about floored. The detail on the sepia scenes is unparalleled to other formats. When the color kicks in I was just astounded. I've probably seen this film a few hundred times across four different formats and broadcast TV and this UHD leaves the rest in the dust by miles.

Don't think about buying this. Just buy it.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Got my steelbook on the way to seeing it in Dolby Cinema today. Haven't seen the disc yet, but wow it looked amazing at Dolby Cinema! Seeing it on a huge 60' 1.85:1 screen was amazing, such rich blacks and the colors! Her skin was perhaps a trace less saturated than the blu-ray, but wow, other stuff, stuff that should be! Some of the clothes, those flowers, the face of the witch, her ruby slippers, the greens, reds, etc. Just intense! And the sepia looked proper sepia color and so rich! The stuff on capsaholic doesn't begin to match what I saw. Compared to what I saw at Dolby Cinema the highlights look very different and the insane saturation of some stuff just doesn't work, of course, in sRGB/REC709 color gamut downsample/clip.

And the special effects hold up insanely well even on giant screen (have seen it on a large screen before but not in 4k) in 4k. The opening tornado in many ways that whole thing felt and looked more ominous and real than any CGI stuff today. And the colors! With all the blah teal dingy stuff since the mid-90s, so wonderful to see such rich color. It is crazy how back in 1939 they did such stuff so well.

Now sure, some scenes out of focus, or gauze shot or a trace off focus, but the stuff in total focus has for sure more detail than any 1080p can ever show. Looked great. Nice grain. Just wonderful. On a giant screen it gets so much life and depth than on TV (or even to an extent smaller movie screens). Fantastic.

[jonam]

Originally Posted by BNex99

I do wish the mono track was included, but aside from the couple minor alterations that have been mentioned, this has always been a pretty faithful remix. At least it isn't filled with altered SFX like certain other Warner titles.

Picture-wise, it's magnificent. And it was a nice touch to include the 1990 documentary since it's not on the 2013 Blu-ray.

Which Warner titles?

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by FragnitoM

Best Buy didn't seem to order a lot of these. Got 1 of only 2 copies.. and other stores near me only had 2 copies... Thought this would be a really huge release

by some miracle my local BB got a bunch, they used to get so few of everything
but they got more than 8 steels for shelf

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by DanTheMan

For those that saw the film in Dolby Cinema at AMC, did they still play trailers beforehand or start the movie at the scheduled showtime?

yes, they play it (almost) like a regular release, only difference is it seemed to have just a touch less trailers than typical these days so it doesn't start right at the start time but doesn't start quite as much later as typical these days either

[BNex99]

Originally Posted by jonam

Which Warner titles?

Batman and Blade Runner are the ones I was thinking of.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Neon Rabbit

No, This one:

ah man, the early in the format releases can be as rare as hen's teeth
this seems very hard to find edit: although after looking through 800 copies I think I may have finally found one!