Rambo: Last Blood 4K UHD (2019) - Page 12 - Blu-ray Forum

DJR662 · 12-09-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevil666

The scene is still there? At some point a comparison will come up if there are minor differences in the climax, but maybe the trailers just used alternate shots.

Having seen both cuts, I believe there is a huge problem with the film tempo.

You go in having seen the (badly done) trailers, so you expect the action to be on par with Rambo 2008. But this drags on and on, and the moment where you expect Rambo to go full blast, when he is surrounded by dozens of guys, as seen in the trailers, he stupidly let them have the edge.

The great idea is the tunnels as metaphor for his craziness. And him clearing them up, becoming the killing machine again.

But unlike 2008 Theatrical Cut, where in the middle, he realise killing is in his blood and he is a savage who relish it, here it looks as if he is a victim of the violence, perpetually catching up on him.

There is only one great scene and that is the climax. 2008 had tons of them, one great amazing scene after the other.

I still like it, but this feels like half a film. The climax would have worked as a middle of the film scene, and then Rambo would go in Mexico and kill em' all, resolving on his own the drug cartel problem. Perhaps Stallone decided to keep this half of the script for Rambo Last Blood Part II.

Also the villains were bad, but bland. The pedophile bad guy general in Rambo 2008 was fantastic. You knew he was going to get it.

Well, this certainly has tempered my enthusiasm. So in other words, those who are expecting Rambo 2008 are going to be disappointed?

Filmmaker · 12-09-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR662

Well, this certainly has tempered my enthusiasm. So in other words, those who are expecting Rambo 2008 are going to be disappointed?

Yes, in a comparison with that film. Hell, arguably in comparison with them all. But it's still Rambo and there's still plenty to enjoy.

Geoff D · 12-09-2019, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clarenceworley

Am I the alone in saying $25 for this is a big waste of money? My guess is they will be pumping this out at $7.99 by the fall of 2020.

It's a Lionsgate disc so it'll be in the bargain bin long before then.

brainofj72 · 12-09-2019, 09:41 PM

I’ll pay whatever it takes to get the international cut in UHD.

Still no confirmation on which (if any) territories have that, right?

Bates_Motel · 12-09-2019, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

I’ll pay whatever it takes to get the international cut in UHD.

Still no confirmation on which (if any) territories have that, right?

Germany and France.

Australia has the international cut on BD, US cut on UHD.

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Originally Posted by Daredevil666

where the DoP decided to open the shutter speed to capture more light instead of leaving it at 48fps which is essential to make digital look like film.

???

Changing the shutter isn't done for "more light," that's ISO and f-stop. Ay shutter speed changes are intentional for the look they want, but it's not for "capturing more light."

Filmmaker · 12-10-2019, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Germany and France.

Can you point to where this has been confirmed rather than just guessed educatedly?

Pieter V · 12-10-2019, 11:00 AM

This drone shot looks absolutely terrible. Poor resolution, jaggies aliasing all over the place. The BD looks the same.

I spotted more jaggie moments around buildings/objects. The movie not only sucks it's also poorly shot.

DJR662 · 12-10-2019, 11:56 AM

Was able to watch it at a friend's house and I absolutely loved it! It's kind of like Rambo and Taken rolled into one movie along with plenty of hardhitting bloodshed. Definitely will get this myself after I have made up my mind on which version to get.

I'm down for another Rambo movie!

Geoff D · 12-10-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevil666

Whoops sorry I'm not english native. I must have mean f-stop.

Not sure how "48fps" relates to f-stop though. If you shoot anything at 48fps and the rest at 24fps then the motion of the 48 will look slower.

DaMikstar · 12-10-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Germany and France.

Australia has the international cut on BD, US cut on UHD.

Is this confirmed?

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Can you point to where this has been confirmed rather than just guessed educatedly?

For the German release: https://www.schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=15067 (If you can read German.).

Filmmaker · 12-10-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMikstar

For the German release: https://www.schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=15067 (If you can read German.).

You, sir (ma’am?), are a gentleman and a scholar! Bless you! This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for so I know where to place my order!

DaMikstar · 12-10-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

You, sir (ma’am?), are a gentleman and a scholar! Bless you! This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for so I know where to place my order!

It's Sir.

But, be aware, there are no English subtitles listed on the publisher's website. So, I'm not sure if the Spanish dialogues will be subbed in English. Even though I'm German that's the reason why I'm waiting for confirmation and stick to the US until then. Want to have both cuts anyway.

Filmmaker · 12-10-2019, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMikstar

It's Sir.

But, be aware, there are no English subtitles listed on the publisher's website. So, I'm not sure if the Spanish dialogues will be subbed in English. Even though I'm German that's the reason why I'm waiting for confirmation and stick to the US until then. Want to have both cuts anyway.

Dammit.

EDIT: I do currently own four BDs from Koch and they all feature English subtitles, so that keeps me optimistic...

DMRI2006 · 12-10-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR662

Well, this certainly has tempered my enthusiasm. So in other words, those who are expecting Rambo 2008 are going to be disappointed?

It absolutely blows. I'm a fan of all the prior movies -- this isn't like any of them. It's more like a cheap Lionsgate TAKEN ripoff you'd expect to see direct-to-video with Nic Cage or Bruce Willis.

Surprised there's as much "love" as there is here for it. My friend and I walked away embarrassed we paid for a ticket back in September. Even David Morrell, who wrote the original First Blood novel, said he was embarrassed that his name was on it.

Filmmaker · 12-10-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

It absolutely blows. I'm a fan of all the prior movies -- this isn't like any of them. It's more like a cheap Lionsgate TAKEN ripoff you'd expect to see direct-to-video with Nic Cage or Bruce Willis.

Surprised there's as much "love" as there is here. My friend and I walked away embarrassed we paid for a ticket back in September.

It's the fifth movie in the series, which has never been the most intellectually riveting of such, and Stallone is 147 years old, so it's all about setting realistic expectations.

brainofj72 · 12-10-2019, 03:26 PM

I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised or upset by low-quality aerial shots - dodgy, lo-fi drone footage is commonplace these days.

DJR662 · 12-10-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

It absolutely blows. I'm a fan of all the prior movies -- this isn't like any of them. It's more like a cheap Lionsgate TAKEN ripoff you'd expect to see direct-to-video with Nic Cage or Bruce Willis.

Surprised there's as much "love" as there is here for it. My friend and I walked away embarrassed we paid for a ticket back in September. Even David Morrell, who wrote the original First Blood novel, said he was embarrassed that his name was on it.

Oh well, I thought it was great.

Bates_Motel · 12-10-2019, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMikstar

Is this confirmed?

Yes, in an email directly from the distributor.

Bates_Motel · 12-10-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevil666

Actually I think I was right lol, I googled and to shoot HD so that is looks like film, you need to adjust shutter speed.

So on a shoot, you should forbid the DoP to put the shutter speed at anything else other than 1/48 if you shoot digital.

This was done on Rambo Last Blood (raising the shutter too high), on the opening scene, and I noticed there are shots in the tunnel during the climax, that also look like video. Also the opening scene of Logan, which I didn't buy on Blu-ray because I can't stand beginning to watch the film, and watching a great scene ruined and looking like I'm watching in fast forward from the get go.

I noticed the jaggies too, I think this film will look poor on any format.

Never said you were wrong about a different shutter speed, just that it wasn’t don’t to “let in more light.” But no reason they might’ve done it on the opening and nowhere else in the film.

StrayButler91 · 12-10-2019, 04:12 PM

I initially thought I wouldn’t be bothered by a lack of English subtitles on the German 4K of the extended cut... but then again, one of the added scenes is entirely in a different language.

So yeah, I’m gonna have to hold my horses until someone has the disc in hand.

12-10-2019, 11:00 AM	#227
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	This drone shot looks absolutely terrible. Poor resolution, jaggies aliasing all over the place. The BD looks the same. I spotted more jaggie moments around buildings/objects. The movie not only sucks it's also poorly shot. Last edited by Pieter V; 12-10-2019 at 11:51 AM.

12-09-2019, 09:41 PM	#224
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1036 Blu-ray collection:3611 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	I’ll pay whatever it takes to get the international cut in UHD. Still no confirmation on which (if any) territories have that, right?

12-10-2019, 11:56 AM	#228
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	Was able to watch it at a friend's house and I absolutely loved it! It's kind of like Rambo and Taken rolled into one movie along with plenty of hardhitting bloodshed. Definitely will get this myself after I have made up my mind on which version to get. I'm down for another Rambo movie!

12-10-2019, 03:26 PM	#236
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1036 Blu-ray collection:3611 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised or upset by low-quality aerial shots - dodgy, lo-fi drone footage is commonplace these days.

12-10-2019, 04:12 PM	#240
StrayButler91 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Australia 4K collection:994 Blu-ray collection:3980 DVD collection:173 iTunes collection:291 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:45	I initially thought I wouldn’t be bothered by a lack of English subtitles on the German 4K of the extended cut... but then again, one of the added scenes is entirely in a different language. So yeah, I’m gonna have to hold my horses until someone has the disc in hand.

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