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Old 12-12-2019, 02:56 AM   #2801
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Tried to play my 2007 Ratatouille release on mulitple players tonight and all rejected the disc.

Not pleased. Anyone have experience with contacting Disney about defective products.

Disc was only watched once in 12 years.
Weird, I just tested mine on 2 different players and it works fine.
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Old 12-12-2019, 03:01 AM   #2802
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Weird, I just tested mine on 2 different players and it works fine.
It was unexpected on a release like this that is for sure.

Only other issues I've ever had was a Sleepy Hollow release that would only play in one of 7 players tried, and even then it wasn't flawless.

And a BD-R Film Detective Official Release that froze on every player 30 minutes in (which they replaced with a working copy)
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Old 12-13-2019, 02:36 AM   #2803
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I placed an order with DaaVeeDee a few weeks ago for a number of released (mainly Italian films) and couldn't help myself and purchased replacement Blu Rays for Danton & The Night of Varennes.

Both are appear to be still in print as Amazon France are still selling them.

Got them today and happy to report that The Night of Varennes plays find and the disc itself looks fine. I assume this is a later pressing.

Danton, whilst it played fine so I'll be able to re-watch the film does have a circle forming in the centre of the disc so its probably a later printing than my first purchase but still from a time there was still issues. Still the dark circle forming in the centre may never get any worse or cause any playback issues in the future - only time will tell.
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Old 12-13-2019, 02:56 AM   #2804
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Tried to play my 2007 Ratatouille release on mulitple players tonight and all rejected the disc.

Not pleased. Anyone have experience with contacting Disney about defective products.

Disc was only watched once in 12 years.
12 years? Why did you even buy it, you should've just rented it. People don't buy movies just to store in a rack for umpteen years, and expect them to still play afterwards. Anything that's not being used for that long, it's going to have problems because, the internal mechanisms need to operable and in use for them for self lubrications and mobile to keep them functioning.

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Old 12-13-2019, 03:16 AM   #2805
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People don't buy movies just to store in a rack for umpteen years, and expect them to still play afterwards.
Well actually they do.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:20 AM   #2806
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I placed an order with DaaVeeDee a few weeks ago for a number of released (mainly Italian films) and couldn't help myself and purchased replacement Blu Rays for Danton & The Night of Varennes.

Both are appear to be still in print as Amazon France are still selling them.

Got them today and happy to report that The Night of Varennes plays find and the disc itself looks fine. I assume this is a later pressing.

Danton, whilst it played fine so I'll be able to re-watch the film does have a circle forming in the centre of the disc so its probably a later printing than my first purchase but still from a time there was still issues. Still the dark circle forming in the centre may never get any worse or cause any playback issues in the future - only time will tell.
To be sure about repressing with Gaumont discs, you should ask them prior to ordering. They're pretty straight about those things.
You can send a PM to me and I'll ask them for you if you want or you can write to them directly. They have a nice insider (1kult) on a french forums I'm visiting called DVDClassik
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:27 AM   #2807
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12 years? Why did you even buy it, you should've just rented it. People don't buy movies just to store in a rack for umpteen years, and expect them to still play afterwards. Anything that's not being used for that long, it's going to have problems because, the internal mechanisms need to operable and in use for them for self lubrications and mobile to keep them functioning.
well I guess all those collector's with big collections are screwed then... thanks for that!
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Old 12-13-2019, 08:54 AM   #2808
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Well actually they do.
Then its stupid.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:46 AM   #2809
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12 years? Why did you even buy it, you should've just rented it. People don't buy movies just to store in a rack for umpteen years, and expect them to still play afterwards. Anything that's not being used for that long, it's going to have problems because, the internal mechanisms need to operable and in use for them for self lubrications and mobile to keep them functioning.

This is absolute nonsense. It's a disc not a car. There are no moving parts so nothing to maintain. The only reason optical discs ever go bad are because of either manufacturing problems or mishandling by the user.

A lot of these discs are breaking down because the plastic layer/s covering the data are letting in air and slowing oxidising the data layer. It's either poor material which is breaking down overtime or its the glue used.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:13 AM   #2810
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Then its stupid.
It's also stupid that you spelled IT'S without the necessary apostrophe.
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It's also stupid that you spelled IT'S without the necessary apostrophe.
I spell it the way I want to spell it! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Old 12-14-2019, 03:05 PM   #2812
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I spell it the way I want to spell it! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
If slimdude was on the opposite side of this he would be going on a rant about how our society is crumbling due to the moral decay caused by improper punctuation.
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Have the problems causing these early discs to fail been addressed in more recent disc production?
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Have the problems causing these early discs to fail been addressed in more recent disc production?
Supposedly. Time will tell.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:21 PM   #2815
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Tried to play my 2007 Ratatouille release on mulitple players tonight and all rejected the disc.

Not pleased. Anyone have experience with contacting Disney about defective products.

Disc was only watched once in 12 years.
My 2007 copy of Ratatouille plays fine, but I store it with the slipcover on and that helps immensely with the disc's "self lubrications." It lends a big hand to this very important job.

It never hurts to ask the studio for a replacement, and many studios will oblige, but Disney, in my experience, is not one of them.

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Old 12-17-2019, 02:54 PM   #2816
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12 years? Why did you even buy it, you should've just rented it. People don't buy movies just to store in a rack for umpteen years, and expect them to still play afterwards. Anything that's not being used for that long, it's going to have problems because, the internal mechanisms need to operable and in use for them for self lubrications and mobile to keep them functioning.
Are you telling me that all of books I've bought over the last 50 years that I haven't re-read won't work anymore?!

Noooooooooooooooooooo...........
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Old 12-17-2019, 03:53 PM   #2817
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I've been told that the texts printed in books left unread for too long, disappear little by little... page after page
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My following dual layered discs have developed playback issues, due to disc bronzing.

JFK (Warner - Region A)
Hot Fuzz (Universal - Region A)
Grapes of Wrath (Fox - Region A)
Thelma and Louise (MGM - Region A)
Stalag 17 (Warner - Region A)
Green Mile (Warner - Region A)

Started checking my other dual layered discs...and noticed around 200 of them have the same disc bronzing issue. All of them are Region A discs that came in the ELITE cases, with the recycling logo cut out. Haven't checked them all yet but outlook isn't looking good.

Feeling well gutted as I kept them in excellent condition. My other 1500 discs (which were bought from UK stores) have no disc bronzing and were kept in the same room.

Might be worth double checking your discs (that came in ELITE cases).
I recently discovered that my copy of The Green Mile no longer works. I verified with two different players. Hopefully if I just buy another copy, it will be a newer pressing.
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I recently discovered that my copy of The Green Mile no longer works. I verified with two different players. Hopefully if I just buy another copy, it will be a newer pressing.
With The Green Mile you want the JP disc anyway.
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My following dual layered discs have developed playback issues, due to disc bronzing.

JFK (Warner - Region A)
Hot Fuzz (Universal - Region A)
Grapes of Wrath (Fox - Region A)
Thelma and Louise (MGM - Region A)
Stalag 17 (Warner - Region A)
Green Mile (Warner - Region A)

Started checking my other dual layered discs...and noticed around 200 of them have the same disc bronzing issue. All of them are Region A discs that came in the ELITE cases, with the recycling logo cut out. Haven't checked them all yet but outlook isn't looking good.

Feeling well gutted as I kept them in excellent condition. My other 1500 discs (which were bought from UK stores) have no disc bronzing and were kept in the same room.

Might be worth double checking your discs (that came in ELITE cases).
Sad to hear

If those discs were from the early days of Blu ray those studios u mentioned were all using Cinram . Cinram was the worst replicator on the planet and they eventually filed for bankruptcy

There were other labels using Cinram in the early days of Blu ray but their website vanished with the bankruptcy so I can’t rememember.

All the Warner HD-dvds were pressed at Cinram and most of those rotted years ago
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