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Old 02-11-2020, 10:21 AM   #1721
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True, he also went a lot further with squibs and blood than anyone else at the time.
Yep. You can thank Arthur Penn for that.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:34 PM   #1722
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Well, certainly not OOP (I think that was something I saw earlier when searching on eBay ) … Now On Sale for $15.99 (only a buck more than their lowest price ever). Paid for with complementary Amazon gift card for previous problem = $0.00!
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:15 PM   #1723
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I have no idea what happened with the caps on the review of the newer edition, they're horrible. Capsaholic shows quite a refinement in detail and colors on the newer disc: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...101410&i=4&l=0

That said, the older one is brighter, and has probably had more grain management applied, so that tends to add an appearance of sharpness. The remastered one is a lot more filmic, which doesn't generally correspond with sharpness.
If you really want to be disappointed, try looking at the 4K UHD screencaps and the macroblocking on Clint's hat brim (png file):

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=3&x...3&l=1&i=7&go=1
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:43 PM   #1724
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If you really want to be disappointed, try looking at the 4K UHD screencaps and the macroblocking on Clint's hat brim (png file):

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=3&x...3&l=1&i=7&go=1
That's not disappointing, because no one watches movies zoomed in 400% and it isn't visible in motion.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:46 PM   #1725
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This is part of Bestbuy’s 3 for $35 on select WB 4K titles.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:49 PM   #1726
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That's not disappointing, because no one watches movies zoomed in 400% and it isn't visible in motion.
Oh please. If you think that kind of compression isn't noticeable you're insane. The BD looks better in comparison.
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:34 PM   #1727
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This is part of Bestbuy’s 3 for $35 on select WB 4K titles.
Where's the link for this sale?
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:51 PM   #1728
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You can thank me. I finally broke down and bought the UHD digital upgrade for $5 last week. Would have bought the UHD Blu-Ray for $15 in a minute.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:26 PM   #1729
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Oh please. If you think that kind of compression isn't noticeable you're insane. The BD looks better in comparison.
I've seen the disc, so I know what I'm talking about more than someone who zooms in 400% to look for tiny artifacts. The UHD looks FAR better if, you know, you actually WATCH the discs instead of picking apart caps. Try it sometime. And don't "oh please" me if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:28 PM   #1730
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Where's the link for this sale?
I can’t pull the link. If you go to bby’s page for Unforgiven 4k, there should be a hot offer beneath the price.

Here are the eligible titles:

Warner 3 for $35 4K:
-Argo
-Central Intelligence
-The Great Gatsby
-I Am Legend
-In the Heart of the Sea
-King Arthur
-The Legend of Tarzan
-The Lego Movie
-Man of Steel
-The Matrix
-Oceans 8
-Point Break
-Ready Player One
-Superman: The Movie
-The Town
-Unforgiven
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:01 AM   #1731
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I love the look of the uhd, but the strange tracing anomaly that occurs around the windmill, and around the wagon, and even around Gene Hackman. It looks waaay too heavy handed to be EE. I posted 2 frames.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:05 AM   #1732
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can you post the time frame?
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:22 AM   #1733
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It starts at 1:06:47
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:25 AM   #1734
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The strange, whatever it is, is present through every single frame while the windmill is visible. I didn't check any other parts of the film. It's bad whatever it is, so unsightly.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:49 AM   #1735
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I noticed this artifact too upon watching, it's pretty severe and really should have been caught in QC.
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The only real issue I have with the UHD is that there are a couple of shots where they've tried to key out the skies to grade separately and it's resulted in some really broken, noisy and artifacted edges. The BD has the exact same artifacts which is what made me think it was an automatic conversion.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:32 AM   #1736
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There are other moments when the background looks all weird and posterised too.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:26 AM   #1737
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Eastwood with the pigs has it on the fence behind him, that's the big one that stood out to me along with the windmill when the disc came out. Not a new discovery... who knows what it is. An error maybe? Kind of like with the random DNR in Cliffhanger, some things aren't meant to be known I guess.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:56 AM   #1738
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All criticisms are rendered mute by the fact we have a format that can properly resolve and present all the black in Unforgiven.
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:41 AM   #1739
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So a year or so ago I bought the remastered Blu Ray that came with this, mainly for the lossless audio, but now the actual 4K disc itself is at an insane price so I was thinking about grabbing it.

I've poked back through the thread but 87 pages is a lot. I have a cheaper Sony 4K TV and don't have an OLED yet, but am planning on getting the Sony A9G later this year.

Can anyone tell me if the 4K disc is worth getting if you already have the remastered Blu Ray that comes with this 4K set?

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Old 02-17-2020, 09:28 AM   #1740
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I've seen the disc, so I know what I'm talking about more than someone who zooms in 400% to look for tiny artifacts. The UHD looks FAR better if, you know, you actually WATCH the discs instead of picking apart caps. Try it sometime. And don't "oh please" me if you don't know what you're talking about.

But he does have a point , with UHD’s better codec the compression is very lazy . Granted it would be hard to see in motion , but assuming the caps are correct in that shot the blu Ray looks better . Which is not what we want from UHD
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