Indiana Jones 5

[Darth Marcus]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Forgot pointing. He loves pointing.

[Darth Marcus]

Also, I thought Mangold was finally tackling The Force. Is that delayed again??

[Creed]

Coming from someone that hasn't seen any of the movies (I know, I know), even this doesn't sound right!

[mpstjohn]

Originally Posted by Himmel

Mangold is a solid Director. Spielberg can now move onto other projects.

Agreed. Spielberg phoned it in with Crystal Skulls anyway. Anyone could have directed that.

I can't see Mangold keeping in crap like the escape by refrigerator, commie fighting monkeys or Shia getting hitting the crotch by bushes gags stay in. I mean, I remember Temple of Doom and Last Crusade having some silly moments, but I didn't retain a single earnest moment from that entire last movie. It might as well have been that Will Ferrell Land of the Lost movie I was watching in the theater.

[Elgie]

Originally Posted by Creed

Coming from someone that hasn't seen any of the movies (I know, I know), even this doesn't sound right!

Raiders is on Netflix and the only good one (ooh!)

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Darth Marcus

Also, I thought Mangold was finally tackling The Force. Is that delayed again??

I thought he said that was never happening

[DanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

Steven Spielberg Won’t Direct ‘Indiana Jones 5,’ James Mangold in Talks to Replace

Gigantic bummer is putting it lightly. Not because of Mangold btw.

[Darth Marcus]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

I thought he said that was never happening

Unless I missed something between last month and today, it was announced last month that Matt Damon was attached to star for Mangold. I know Damon is busy filming The Last Duel at the moment, but still.

[imsounoriginal]

If Mangold's still doing Star Wars then his connection to Indy makes even more sense.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by wonderer99

This just feels wrong. Spielberg belongs in the directors chair and it seems very weird that he has exited. These last two films productions have been dragged out so long I cant believe this is a scheduling issue. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something going on behind the scenes that has caused this because this doesn't sit right at all. Spielberg is as much as part of Indiana Jones as Indy himself.

So is George Lucas (arguably even more so).

This is just another nail in the coffin. This project should have been cancelled long ago...

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by mpstjohn

I can't see Mangold keeping in crap like the escape by refrigerator, commie fighting monkeys or Shia getting hitting the crotch by bushes gags stay in. I mean, I remember Temple of Doom and Last Crusade having some silly moments, but I didn't retain a single earnest moment from that entire last movie. It might as well have been that Will Ferrell Land of the Lost movie I was watching in the theater.

If Mangold had had a problem with those scenes, he'd probably have been shown the door. IJ was Lucas' baby. Lucas created the story for KotCS and approved the final script, and that's that.

KotCS is as classically and handsomely staged as any Spielberg adventure film (certainly more so than latter-day stuff like Ready Player One), so not exactly sure how it was "phoned-in" in terms of direction, unless you mean it should've been innovative and different. I might respect the opinion of those who say it has more silly elements than the previous entries, but maybe redirect the ire to the writer rather than the director.

[Geoff D]

Spielberg tried and failed to channel that younger version of himself with Crystal Skull so yeah, if they're gonna make a new one then it's best he steps aside as his heart just isn't in it any more. Not that he doesn't still make fantastical adventures (RPO was frothy but fun) but he wants to play in other sandpits rather than keep returning to Indy. When people say "I'd rather have the creator even if they're not on top form" I'm reminded of Clint Eastwood voicing himself in the extended cut of TGTBATU. To me it sounds awful, not just because his voice has changed so much over the years but because he's trying to actively impersonate his younger self, so it still ends up sounding like some fourth-rate impressionist they found in a bar anyway.

I know Bad Boys isn't exactly Indiana Jones but the critical and commercial reaction to the Bay-less third has exceeded any realistic expectations people had for that flick, so if you get the right people behind the camera then the magic can still happen. Yes, even for Indy, and I think Mangold is an unusual but welcome choice as he'll be able to step outside of that "chasing Spielberg" mentality. Respect will be paid of course, but it'll be his own film. And, as said, at least it's not JJ.

[Guydowood]

Indiana Logan and the Fountain of Youth

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Spielberg tried and failed to channel that younger version of himself with Crystal Skull so yeah, if they're gonna make a new one then it's best he steps aside as his heart just isn't in it any more. Not that he doesn't still make fantastical adventures (RPO was frothy but fun) but he wants to play in other sandpits rather than keep returning to Indy. When people say "I'd rather have the creator even if they're not on top form" I'm reminded of Clint Eastwood voicing himself in the extended cut of TGTBATU. To me it sounds awful, not just because his voice has changed so much over the years but because he's trying to actively impersonate his younger self, so it still ends up sounding like some fourth-rate impressionist they found in a bar anyway.

I know Bad Boys isn't exactly Indiana Jones but the critical and commercial reaction to the Bay-less third has exceeded any realistic expectations people had for that flick, so if you get the right people behind the camera then the magic can still happen. Yes, even for Indy, and I think Mangold is an unusual but welcome choice as he'll be able to step outside of that "chasing Spielberg" mentality. Respect will be paid of course, but it'll be his own film. And, as said, at least it's not JJ.

Good points.

Also, everyone *****ing about this, myself included, are still going to buy tickets to Indy 5

[Darth Marcus]

I'll still go see the film, and I'll see it with an open heart and open mind. I can't say no to a Harrison-led Indy flick. But the "what might've been" will always be in the back of my mind. Kind of like how I can't watch Ant-Man and not dream of what an Edgar Wright-led Ant-Man might've been.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Spielberg tried and failed to channel that younger version of himself with Crystal Skull so yeah, if they're gonna make a new one then it's best he steps aside as his heart just isn't in it any more. Not that he doesn't still make fantastical adventures (RPO was frothy but fun) but he wants to play in other sandpits rather than keep returning to Indy. When people say "I'd rather have the creator even if they're not on top form" I'm reminded of Clint Eastwood voicing himself in the extended cut of TGTBATU. To me it sounds awful, not just because his voice has changed so much over the years but because he's trying to actively impersonate his younger self, so it still ends up sounding like some fourth-rate impressionist they found in a bar anyway.

I know Bad Boys isn't exactly Indiana Jones but the critical and commercial reaction to the Bay-less third has exceeded any realistic expectations people had for that flick, so if you get the right people behind the camera then the magic can still happen. Yes, even for Indy, and I think Mangold is an unusual but welcome choice as he'll be able to step outside of that "chasing Spielberg" mentality. Respect will be paid of course, but it'll be his own film. And, as said, at least it's not JJ.

The new Bad Boys also isn't half as memorable as the first two. Better than BBII, sure, but that's not a high bar to clear. And Spielberg is the type of director whose lackadaisical efforts are still better than most can muster at their best. I dunno, there was a consistency to Ford/Spielberg/Lucas/Williams that I'm not too keen to disrupt. But I also like Crystal Skull so whatever, I'm part of a small crowd here.

[MifuneFan]

I don't even know why they have to make another one. Just let the franchise end, which is probably what they should have done after the third movie anyway

[Star Lord]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

If Mangold had had a problem with those scenes, he'd probably have been shown the door. IJ was Lucas' baby. Lucas created the story for KotCS and approved the final script, and that's that.

KotCS is as classically and handsomely staged as any Spielberg adventure film (certainly more so than latter-day stuff like Ready Player One), so not exactly sure how it was "phoned-in" in terms of direction, unless you mean it should've been innovative and different. I might respect the opinion of those who say it has more silly elements than the previous entries, but maybe redirect the ire to the writer rather than the director.

This. The movies have always been a love letter to pulpy magazines and matinee serials of the 40s.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Also, everyone *****ing about this, myself included, are still going to buy tickets to Indy 5

Not really.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

The new Bad Boys also isn't half as memorable as the first two. Better than BBII, sure, but that's not a high bar to clear. And Spielberg is the type of director whose lackadaisical efforts are still better than most can muster at their best. I dunno, there was a consistency to Ford/Spielberg/Lucas/Williams that I'm not too keen to disrupt. But I also like Crystal Skull so whatever, I'm part of a small crowd here.

Dude, I actually like Crystal Skull but it still feels like someone playing at being Spielberg rather than actually being from Spielberg, there's an energy to those first three - even Last Crusade, where Spielberg was already tired of the formula - that Skull just doesn't match.