Pioneer 9G Owners Thread - Present & Future

[oppopioneer]

I've had a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD since around 2009-10 and it's been great. I think one of the reasons as to why I haven't had any problems with it is I've had it hooked up to a SurgeX surge protector which are industrial grade and there are no mov's in them to fail.

I wonder how many plasma's or flatscreen's in general suffer electrical problems due to not having a surge protector or being hooked up to a faulty surge protector that uses mov's like the one's sold at Best Buy, Staples, Walmart?

http://espsurgex.com/surgex/

[BLUCanadian]

Is there any value in a dead panel?
I have a pro-101fd that died about 4 years ago that I have hung on to. I thought that one day I might have tried to bring it back to life but at this point, it's not really worth it to me as a secondary TV. I am clearing out some things from the home and this is one of the things that may end up on the front lawn to be taken out with the trash. If I can get $100+ for it though I could put that towards a new tv.
It's got the red blinking light of death. 2-blinks repeated when I power it on.
Any thoughts regarding this would be appreciated.
Thanks

[HDTV1080P]

My 2008 PRO-101FD is still working fine. If you want to repair it you might be able to find the spare parts on Pioneers website or contact a Pioneer authorized dealer to have the flat panel repaired.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Pioneer owners who have not upgraded to 4K Ultra HD projectors or OLED flat panels yet, might want to purchase a OPPO UDP-203 first. Watching native 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays downscaled to 1080P has a better picture quality on the Pioneer plasma in terms of black levels when compared to watching the same movie in true 4K Ultra HD quality on a low cost 4K Ultra HD flat panel screen that has poor black levels. The HEVC codec with its high bit rates peaking above 100Mbps for some movie scenes, appears to produce a 5-10% better picture quality on the 1080P Pioneer plasmas when compared to standard 1080P Blu-ray discs that have lower video bit rates.

I bought an Oppo UDP-203 one year ago, and Dolby Vision UHDs look fantastic, but HDR10 discs have weird purple artifacting (purple fringing).
I thought it was going to die last year, as the PQ seemed off (weak black levels), but after doing a factory reset, it was all well again. An absolutely amazing piece of equipment.
I think I will buy an LG C9 65inch this year though, as I simply want a bigger screen.

[Bluyoda]

I feel really emotional about letting go of my Kuro as my main TV.
This will also be the first time I will have more than 1 TV.
I have just purchased the above mentioned LG 65C97LA, as the price has finally come down enough to jump on it for me.
I will test the OLED first, especially with regulard BDs, as I fear they will look worse on it than on my Kuro.
I can still remember the first time I hooked my SE Oppo BDP-83 up, and calibrated the picture settings.
Watching Iron Man and Strat Trek ('09) on BD for the first time were awe-inspiring experiences.
I can't believe the Kuro is still works. It's such an impeccably made display.
Made in Japan after all.
Are any displays made there these days?
Anyways, looking forward to comparing the two.

[Bluyoda]

Does the Pioneer wall mount (I think it's something with 300..) work for an LG C9 as well?

[Robert Zohn]

Sharp TVs are made in Japan and will likely be in the USA for the 2021 model year.

Yes, your 300x300 Visa wall mount will work on the C9. The only issue is that the C9 bolt pattern is positioned very low and the Kuro's bolt pattern is near the middle of the display. So you will likely need to move the wall mount lower on the wall.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sharp TVs are made in Japan and will likely be in the USA for the 2021 model year.

Yes, your 300x300 Visa wall mount will work on the C9. The only issue is that the C9 bolt pattern is positioned very low and the Kuro's bolt pattern is near the middle of the display. So you will likely need to move the wall mount lower on the wall.

Thanks a lot. I have since found out that my wall mount is called PDK-WM02.
Hope it fits, but I won't mount it up immediately anyway, as I first want to see how bad the motion resolution is to my eyes, and whether I will return it and keep using the Kuro until the day it dies.

[peacekeeper]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I feel really emotional about letting go of my Kuro as my main TV.
This will also be the first time I will have more than 1 TV.
I have just purchased the above mentioned LG 65C97LA, as the price has finally come down enough to jump on it for me.
I will test the OLED first, especially with regulard BDs, as I fear they will look worse on it than on my Kuro.

Just made the same emotional upgrade last week: had a European KRP 500M 50" and have now a LG Oled C9 65". I'm using my Oppo BDP105 to do the upscaling of blu-rays to the Oled through the HDMI 1 dedicated video output of the Oppo, and the results are magnificent. Black level is inky, colours are much tighter and the contrast blows the roof off any wel mastered blu-ray disc. The picture feels more filmic and balanced as a whole, amazing on a screen this size (I'm sitting 7,5 ft form the screen). Motion is not a problem, just turn Trumotion off or set it to user with deblur at max.

Caveat: if a blu-ray has bad compression, noise or other imperfections: yes, on a screen this size that will look worse than on a 50". Which in my mind is as it should. And the reason I just upgraded form the Criterion Mulholland Drive blu-ray to the better authored recent european Studio Canal version.

Will the Kuro ever leave the house? No way!

[Bluyoda]

I am extremely happy with my purchase. Just watching this kind of video alone is astounding:

ABSTRACT COLORS VOLUME 2 HDR // 8K MACRO // FILMSUPPLY EXCLUSIVE - YouTube

I don't know what I'll do with my Kuro. I might sell it.

[DMP2722]

Hi I am wondering how you found your comparison? We packed up our Pro-151FD back in 2011 when we moved to a new house thinking I would setup a home theater in our basement but never got around to it and our year old Kuro has been in its box since! I just brought into the house and put it in our play room so I could play PS4 and Xbox One X games on it and man did I miss the picture quality of this panel. I am only sitting 10 feet away and it it so clear.

I looked into getting a 55" LG C9 or E9 4K OLED panel because the 60" Kuro is just to big to be used in our main house but felt nothing we currently watch is 4K so have decided to just keep our current Samsung 3D high end LED TV for now. I am tempted to build the home theater room in our basement again but most of our family viewing is done in our living room now. It is sadly missing all the home theater audio I enjoyed some much but my wife is not into that part of it. It looks like the best thing to do is to keep the Kuro until more of our material is 4K but I don't see that happening in the very near future.

[Auditor55]

Who still have their Kuro?

[antennahead]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Who still have their Kuro?

Mine is in my girlfriends condo as the main TV in the living room. It still looks fantastic. Everytime I'm over there I marvel at the picture for a 13 year old TV.

[Fasteddie516]

Still have my Kuro Elite 151FD & still looks as great as the day I bought it. Now has 60,000 hours on it too. Would love to go 4K some day, but not right now, I’m watching mostly Cable TV & Sports in 720p & 1080i, which look great with great motion from 11ft away. So not ready to spend the money to upgrade to a 4K OLED. Would like at least a 77” upgrade next. I did buy a Panasonic 820 Ultra BluRay Player & this does a Fabulous job of Downscaling 4K BluRays to 1080p. Hard to imagine looking any better.

[Robert Zohn]

I understand and you have a World Class beautiful TV, but once you get your next emissive 4K HDR display you will see and appreciate the very nice image performance upgrade.

[lokir1]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Who still have their Kuro?

9g 151fd still going strong

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by lokir1

9g151fd still going strong

Still have my PDP-5020FD in the bedroom.

[Robert Zohn]

I still have our KRP-500M and love it!

[turns2stone]

Originally Posted by lokir1

9g 151fd still going strong

Same here. Although I have a 65” LG OLED (calibrated of course!), the Pioneer just keeps on going strong. Will be 12 years old this summer.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Fasteddie516

Still have my Kuro Elite 151FD & still looks as great as the day I bought it. Now has 60,000 hours on it too. Would love to go 4K some day, but not right now, I’m watching mostly Cable TV & Sports in 720p & 1080i, which look great with great motion from 11ft away. So not ready to spend the money to upgrade to a 4K OLED. Would like at least a 77” upgrade next. I did buy a Panasonic 820 Ultra BluRay Player & this does a Fabulous job of Downscaling 4K BluRays to 1080p. Hard to imagine looking any better.

Well, I don't know over a distance of 11ft, but I am a real pixel peeper, and I sit 5.2ft from my LG 65' OLED, and it's terrific, provided the source content is strong.

With my Kuro, I had to sit about 5 away before I really noticed the pixels of the TV, but with the LG, it's more like 1foot, if not less. The resolution is incredible, as are the black levels. Literally 100% black, and the brightness.
I, for one, am certainly glad I upgraded. It's so much better IMO, although I still think the Kuro is amazing, but it just can't compete with a generation 9 OLED.