Question about burning Blu-ray and piracy - Blu-ray Forum

Firestreak · 08-21-2007, 10:07 PM

Let's say I legally own a HD DVD copy of Transformers.

Then I record it into a Blu Ray.

And I then sell the Blu-Ray "back-up" along with the Legal HD DVD copy.

Legal?

MasterXeus · 08-21-2007, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestreak

Let's say I legally own a HD DVD copy of Transformers.

Then I record it into a Blu Ray.

And I then sell the Blu-Ray "back-up" along with the Legal HD DVD copy.

Legal?

I'm guessing no.

The Guardian · 08-21-2007, 10:13 PM

I believe it's illegal because you had to break the (however flimsy) copy protection on the HD DVD, which is illegal...

Firestreak · 08-22-2007, 03:50 AM

If I'm legally allowed to rip a CD that I own and put the songs onto a MP3 player, why can't I rip a HD DVD and burn that? Don't I own the license too not just the media for some limited amount of backups?

The Guardian · 08-22-2007, 04:17 AM

It's an interesting point though isn't it, it's illegal to break the encryption but not technically illegal to own a broken copy so long as you own an original?

So the person making the copy could be in trouble but maybe you wouldn't be if you had bought it and the original off them?

blitz6speed · 08-22-2007, 04:33 AM

It is also illegal to pay companys under the table and stop competition like Microsoft just did and always does. So screw Paramount. I will pirate the hd-dvd and turn it into a blu-ray and they can suck it. The disc will make great xmas presents!

jee · 08-22-2007, 06:31 AM

definatly not legal (at least in the US)

jw · 09-03-2007, 06:40 AM

174559]Let's say I legally own a HD DVD copy of Transformers.

Then I record it into a Blu Ray.

And I then sell the Blu-Ray "back-up" along with the Legal HD DVD copy.

Legal?[/QUOTE]
Here is the law spelled out
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...view/chapter9/

umm....NO, You have remastered copyrighted material and its techincally not a back up copy, its in a diff format

Ender · 08-22-2007, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestreak

If I'm legally allowed to rip a CD that I own and put the songs onto a MP3 player, why can't I rip a HD DVD and burn that? Don't I own the license too not just the media for some limited amount of backups?

Assuming you're in the USA, it would be a DMCA violation. You don't have to break encryption to copy a CD, so it's legal, but the same is not true for DVD, BD, or HD-DVD.

08-21-2007, 10:07 PM	#1
Firestreak Senior Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:103 Trading Score:64	Question about burning Blu-ray and piracy Let's say I legally own a HD DVD copy of Transformers. Then I record it into a Blu Ray. And I then sell the Blu-Ray "back-up" along with the Legal HD DVD copy. Legal?

09-03-2007, 06:40 AM	#8
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	174559]Let's say I legally own a HD DVD copy of Transformers. Then I record it into a Blu Ray. And I then sell the Blu-Ray "back-up" along with the Legal HD DVD copy. Legal?[/QUOTE] Here is the law spelled out http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...view/chapter9/ umm....NO, You have remastered copyrighted material and its techincally not a back up copy, its in a diff format Last edited by jw; 09-03-2007 at 06:50 AM.

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08-21-2007, 10:13 PM	#3
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	I believe it's illegal because you had to break the (however flimsy) copy protection on the HD DVD, which is illegal...

08-22-2007, 03:50 AM	#4
Firestreak Senior Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:103 Trading Score:64	If I'm legally allowed to rip a CD that I own and put the songs onto a MP3 player, why can't I rip a HD DVD and burn that? Don't I own the license too not just the media for some limited amount of backups?

08-22-2007, 04:17 AM	#5
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	It's an interesting point though isn't it, it's illegal to break the encryption but not technically illegal to own a broken copy so long as you own an original? So the person making the copy could be in trouble but maybe you wouldn't be if you had bought it and the original off them?

08-22-2007, 04:33 AM	#6
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	It is also illegal to pay companys under the table and stop competition like Microsoft just did and always does. So screw Paramount. I will pirate the hd-dvd and turn it into a blu-ray and they can suck it. The disc will make great xmas presents!

08-22-2007, 06:31 AM	#7
jee Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Canada Home Theater Gallery:34 4K collection:310 Blu-ray collection:2771 DVD collection:25 Blu-ray reviews:2	definatly not legal (at least in the US)

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