Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

I'm using the YouTube TV app on my Roku Ultra over a wired Cat5e internet connection into my router. I'm not sure what you mean by internet service not being symmetrical. I've also seen similar artifacts when watching movies over my AppleTV app and VUDU app though it's not as bad as I experienced on the YouTube TV app. There's no comparison to Blu-ray, even compressed Blu-ray rips. Once I upgrade to a larger TV (I'm looking at a 65" 4K set), I would imagine those artifacts will become more noticeable.

Could have told you that before and saved you the time. It’s not a big revelation.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

I guess streaming could be good enough on my laptop or phone. But on a TV I just don't think it compares where quality is concerned. It definitely wins out on convenience though.

Convenience at a huge price. Not worth it. If you have good tv or projector, I see it as abuse to feed that crap into it.

If you switch, you have basically given up on HT and hsve become one of the masses with their tv above the fireplace.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Watched Parasite 3-D last night, PQ was not a very good but did have a couple of pop-outs that made you move or squirm. Next up was Dredd in 3-D, much better PQ. Have several more 3-D titles we have not watched.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I usually watch my Movies and TV Shows in HD 1080P, and the PQ is as good as BD in my opinion with my Streaming Providers. All they have to do is Average 20Mbps for BD Quality!

With your setup there is no way for you to know what the quality of BD is. You do not even know what frame rate you view content at, if motion interpolation is On or Off, what your gray scale tracking is, color gamut tracking, etc., etc.

NO streamer provides lossless audio, most BD titles have lossless audio and many have lossless immersive audio as well.

NO streamer provides frame packed 3-D.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Watched Parasite 3-D last night, PQ was not a very good but did have a couple of pop-outs that made you move or squirm. Next up was Dredd in 3-D, much better PQ. Have several more 3-D titles we have not watched.

Do you have any of the Golden era 3D to watch? I could recommend several of them if you are interested. They have very strong depth with excellent negative Parallax to boot.

[Vilya]

Did you see the U.S. unemployment numbers for this week? 6.6 million new claims! And that is on top of last weeks previous record of 3.3 million unemployment claims. Almost 10 million unemployment claims in just the last two weeks!

Discretionary spending is essentially gone for far too many people as they can't even afford essentials now. I am incredibly fortunate to not be personally affected, but it is only a matter of time before someone that I know will be.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

With your setup there is no way for you to know what the quality of BD is. You do not even know what frame rate you view content at, if motion interpolation is On or Off, what your gray scale tracking is, color gamut tracking, etc., etc.

NO streamer provides lossless audio, most BD titles have lossless audio and many have lossless immersive audio as well.

NO streamer provides frame packed 3-D.

The magic that is adaptive streaming means that if your ISP gives you symmetrical 85 Mbps over a wired connection then all streaming bitrates from all providers are transformed into 85 Mbps bitrates every time.

My ISP, when it works, delivers download speeds of approx. 230 Mbps, so that makes my streaming bitrates even more better than that.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I usually watch my Movies and TV Shows in HD 1080P, and the PQ is as good as BD in my opinion with my Streaming Providers. All they have to do is Average 20Mbps for BD Quality!

Originally Posted by Vilya

The magic that is adaptive streaming means that if your ISP gives you symmetrical 85 Mbps over a wired connection then all streaming bitrates from all providers are transformed into 85 Mbps bitrates every time.

Very . It is weird how many times we have provided that poster info showing the data rates for HD streaming yet he believes they are much higher than they are. Could be I am not using silver plated wiring.

Sometime back a reviewer posted he installed a $35 coiled cord between his telephone set and the handset. After the install he said he was able to "talk much faster".

[stonesfan129]

Do you guys buy 4K UHD discs or streaming? Is it worth it in your opinion?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Do you guys buy 4K UHD discs or streaming? Is it worth it in your opinion?

Emmmmm, yes!

Of course we buy UHD disc, when has that not been apparent?

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Do you have any of the Golden era 3D to watch?

Only House of Wax.

I could recommend several of them if you are interested.

Always interested. If already listed, just point me in the direction.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Only House of Wax.

Always interested. If already listed, just point me in the direction.

House Of Wax is outstanding, you won’t be disappointed.

I haven’t already listed so my top five would be as follows:

(Excluding House Of Wax obviously)

Inferno
It Came From Outer Space
The Maze
3D Rarities (both volumes)
The Mad Magician (with two 15 minute Three Stooges extras in 3D)

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Do you guys buy 4K UHD discs or streaming?

Never purchased a streaming UHD title and have no plans to do such. Have done a few DVD2HD and about 3 outright HD streaming purchase. Kept the DVD's with DD tracks that were used in the DVD2HD purchase because the DVD's had much better sound tracks.

Is it worth it in your opinion?

No way, most UHD disc comes with a BD and code. No matter how you slice it or dice it the disc will have better PQ and AQ.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Do you guys buy 4K UHD discs or streaming? Is it worth it in your opinion?

I only buy physical media. I use subscription streaming services but would never make a digital purchase. If I watch something through streaming that I want to own I purchase the Blu-ray or UHD. I enjoy having a physical collection and all the benefits that come with it.

[SCLee]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I just ordered 7 of the Stars Wars movies on 4K disc from the Disney Movie Club. I couldn't bring myself to order the prequels, though. Maybe someday.

You're all in now Vilya! Super Star Wars fan, here you come!

I ordered the big set but I'm not a fanatic. There are people on the Star Wars thread who've seen the films 200 - 300 times, that is excessive! I might have seen the series 8 times through. At a guess. I watched them all before TROS and if I watch them again in 4K, that will be it for a good while.

[SCLee]

https://www.nextgenhometheater.com/hdr10-uhd-blu-rays/

Titles available on HDR10+ not many at all vs Dolby Vision. Have you noticed that HDR10+ takes precedence on the box art? Take Alita, there is no mention of Dolby Vision on the slipcover or case! But it says HDR10+

[stonesfan129]

Those Star Wars UHD discs have to sound awesome with Dolby Atmos 7.1. Those seem like titles that would benefit from immersive audio. Weren't those titles some of the first that came out on DVD with Dolby Digital 5.1 EX? I know my Star Wars Ep 1 DVD had DD 5.1 EX.

[stonesfan129]

Originally Posted by SCLee

You're all in now Vilya! Super Star Wars fan, here you come!

I ordered the big set but I'm not a fanatic. There are people on the Star Wars thread who've seen the films 200 - 300 times, that is excessive! I might have seen the series 8 times through. At a guess. I watched them all before TROS and if I watch them again in 4K, that will be it for a good while.

I would only buy them again if they came out with the unaltered original cuts in 4K.

[SCLee]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

I would only buy them again if they came out with the unaltered original cuts in 4K.

I don't think that's ever gonna happen. They'll have only remastered these versions and it will be the last home video release (in terms of resolution / HDR.) They will re-release them in steelbooks / individually but it will be this transfer.

It sucks that Disney couldn't be bothered releasing the films in Dolby Vision / HDR10+ and even downgraded TLJ to HDR10.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Those Star Wars UHD discs have to sound awesome with Dolby Atmos 7.1. Those seem like titles that would benefit from immersive audio. Weren't those titles some of the first that came out on DVD with Dolby Digital 5.1 EX? I know my Star Wars Ep 1 DVD had DD 5.1 EX.

Yup. Episode 1 was the first movie ever in Dolby Digital 5.1 EX (adding mono 6th channel, not discrete but a derivative of surround L and Surround R a’la centre channel in Pro Logic)