Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4K UHD (1977-2019)

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

No, mario uses normal post and they usually take a week to get here. Probably take a month or more. MEANWHILE, this just happened, 4K zavvi steelbook:

Oh boy, steels with original art. I don't think I can avoid these...

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by StarWarsIsAwesome123

One of the user reviews of Empire on UHD brought up a good point, Fox owned A New Hope before the studio was acquired by Disney. Could the reason why ANH has less obvious DNR than the other 2 be because Fox did it, while Lucasfilm did the others?

It's my understanding that the transfers for I-VI had NOTHING to do with Disney, and were completed before Disney ever bought Lucasfilm.

I think the "less obvious" vs "more obvious" DNR simply has to do with different film stocks, different cinematographers with different lighting ratios and exposures (which varies grain level), different diffusion used in front of the lens, changing technologies for optical effects, etc. etc. etc. It was a time period when each new STAR WARS movie was revolutionizing the state of the art... and film stocks were going through a bit of a grainy stage. Spacecraft shots look AMAZING because they were mostly photographed in the large format VistaVision to reduce grain in the optical printer (thus, less need for DNR), whereas any "regular" 35mm shot tied to a wipe or dissolve, and any shot "blown up" in post would exhibit extra grain that Lucas would then eliminate with an even heavier-handed brush of the DNR. That's why some shots look amazeballs and some look waxy.

Anyhoo... that's my 2-cents.

[GuruAskew]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

No they didn't, Lucasfilm owned it. Fox had the perpetual distribution rights to SW and had the rights to eps 1-3, 5 and 6 up until May 2020 according to the original LFL/Fox distribution deal, so whatever was done in 2012 was done by Fox/LFL as a whole.

The original Star Wars was film is owned by Fox as a film. LucasFilm owned the IP. The right to remake it. The right to merchandise it. The right to adapt it into books and comics and radio dramas and video games. But the movie itself was owned by Fox outright. Disney didn’t have to buy 20th Century Fox to sell Obi-Wan Kenobi action figures but they did need to buy 20th Century Fox to sell and stream the original Star Wars.

It seems like people such as yourself basically fetishized Disney’s ability to swallow up IP. I remember arguing with people who were saying bizarre stuff like “Disney wouldn’t have bought LucasFilm if they weren’t buying the original film!” which obviously ignores the fact that the inability to release ANH is a half-crumb in the massive merchandising pie, and also the fact that all sorts of other LucasFilm stuff like Indiana Jones is owned by other companies.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

It's my understanding that the transfers for I-VI had NOTHING to do with Disney, and were completed before Disney ever bought Lucasfilm.

I think the "less obvious" vs "more obvious" DNR simply has to do with different film stocks, different cinematographers with different lighting ratios and exposures (which varies grain level), different diffusion used in front of the lens, changing technologies for optical effects, etc. etc. etc. It was a time period when each new STAR WARS movie was revolutionizing the state of the art... and film stocks were going through a bit of a grainy stage. Spacecraft shots look AMAZING because they were mostly photographed in the large format VistaVision to reduce grain in the optical printer (thus, less need for DNR), whereas any "regular" 35mm shot tied to a wipe or dissolve, and any shot "blown up" in post would exhibit extra grain that Lucas would then eliminate with an even heavier-handed brush of the DNR. That's why some shots look amazeballs and some look waxy.

Anyhoo... that's my 2-cents.

Yeah, and leaving any capture-related issues aside these things are always at the mercy of the people doing them when they apply as much processing as this, sometimes there just ain't no rhyme and reason to it.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, and leaving any capture-related issues aside these things are always at the mercy of the people doing them when they apply as much processing as this, sometimes there just ain't no rhyme and reason to it.

I do wish the ol' DNR brush hadn't been applied with such a heavy hand on these new transfers (or at all, frankly -- I'm an ecstatic owner of 4K77 v1.4 NON-DNR; I heart grain)... but as much as the occasional waxy face and general lack of organic texture kinda-sorta bums me out a little if I let it, it's completely counter-acted by my childlike wonder and joy when I see a sequence like the "introduction of the Imperial Fleet" in EMPIRE, or the Asteroid chase, or ANY space battle shot from ROTJ. Holy $h!tballs those sequences are eye-popping. And if I'm being honest, I got into this whooole franchise between the ages of 6 and 12 (from 1977 - 1983) for the space-bound pew-pew-pew, so that stuff looking super-fine is like a childhood-restoring drug injected straight into my veins.

[kristoffer]

Just FYI. These are also out in Scandinavia.
https://www.dvdoo.dk/film/serie-star-wars

[ROSS.T.G.]

The extra color depth, subtle HDR are excellent on these. If they weren’t scrubbed they would have been my favourite releases on the format. ANH is easily the best of the OT. I much prefer the improved color temperature to the ghastly BD’s.

I’m going to spin these again next month after I install another pair of height channels.

[s_har]

Originally Posted by GuruAskew

the fact that all sorts of other LucasFilm stuff like Indiana Jones is owned by other companies.

Indiana Jones as a franchise was always owned by Lucasfilm. Paramount held the distribution rights to the films though.
However after the Disney bought Lucasfilm they also made a deal with Paramount in regards to the distribution rights for the films. Under the arrangement, Disney gains distribution and marketing rights to future films, in addition to retaining the ownership rights it secured when it acquired Lucasfilm.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by GuruAskew

The original Star Wars was film is owned by Fox as a film. LucasFilm owned the IP. The right to remake it. The right to merchandise it. The right to adapt it into books and comics and radio dramas and video games. But the movie itself was owned by Fox outright. Disney didn’t have to buy 20th Century Fox to sell Obi-Wan Kenobi action figures but they did need to buy 20th Century Fox to sell and stream the original Star Wars.

It seems like people such as yourself basically fetishized Disney’s ability to swallow up IP. I remember arguing with people who were saying bizarre stuff like “Disney wouldn’t have bought LucasFilm if they weren’t buying the original film!” which obviously ignores the fact that the inability to release ANH is a half-crumb in the massive merchandising pie, and also the fact that all sorts of other LucasFilm stuff like Indiana Jones is owned by other companies.

Lucasfilm nabbed the rights to SW "the film" in 1997 while parlaying with Fox over the distribution deal for the prequels, but Fox were canny enough to keep the DISTRIBUTION rights to SW in perpetuity which is why any release on any platform now and in the future still had to go through Fox.

As for people like me, I don't have a clue what you mean (I can't recall celebrating that Disnee have bought everything?) but I'm sure I must have pissed you off somewhere. Regarding that "bizarre stuff", I'm kinda confused now because I don't know what it is you're arguing for/against, like striving to make the point that Fox own Star Wars (eh) but then saying that it doesn't matter anyway? I've literally been saying for years that Fox owning the perpetual distribution rights to ONE film was a drop in the bucket compared to the wider LFL holdings.

Still, I love it that I've got one guy saying I'm "fetishising" Disnee in one thread and in another I've got someone getting their knickers in a twist because I hate Disnee

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Just FYI. These are also out in Scandinavia.
https://www.dvdoo.dk/film/serie-star-wars

Wow. So many skus for these damn Star Wars movies and we just keep getting more. It's nice they have a 4k steelbook still available for RoS if anyone missed out.

[david_blu]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

I do wish the ol' DNR brush hadn't been applied with such a heavy hand on these new transfers (or at all, frankly -- I'm an ecstatic owner of 4K77 v1.4 NON-DNR; I heart grain)... but as much as the occasional waxy face and general lack of organic texture kinda-sorta bums me out a little if I let it, it's completely counter-acted by my childlike wonder and joy when I see a sequence like the "introduction of the Imperial Fleet" in EMPIRE, or the Asteroid chase, or ANY space battle shot from ROTJ. Holy $h!tballs those sequences are eye-popping. And if I'm being honest, I got into this whooole franchise between the ages of 6 and 12 (from 1977 - 1983) for the space-bound pew-pew-pew, so that stuff looking super-fine is like a childhood-restoring drug injected straight into my veins.

I mentioned it somewhere in this thread but I bet they applied x amount of DNR to Star wars and then applied the same to Empire and Jedi. That's why it probably looks correct for Star Wars, they did it first, then someone read the instructions... Apply x amount of DNR program to Empire and Jedi and voila! Those two look worse as a result.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I won't be buying for a number of reasons, but it's about time these films were reissued with the original posters.

That's the only theatrical poster for this movie.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Just FYI. These are also out in Scandinavia.
https://www.dvdoo.dk/film/serie-star-wars

Will keep an eye on those of the Steelbooks don't show for Force and Rogue

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

That's the only theatrical poster for this movie.

Yes but it's been changed another three times since then, so by mikeian logic then that's not the poster for this version either?

Bonus point for posting the lush Struzan poster tho

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Interesting that he used a still of Leia from ESB for reference for the ANH poster.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

Interesting that he used a still of Leia from ESB for reference for the ANH poster.

I just wished he did the ST also past his teaser poster.
3 more movies is all I wanted.
I can live without Indy 4, just.
But Mark Raats can do that:

[Geoff D]

Indy looks a bit puffy there in Last Crusade

[bradipolpo]

Could anyone please confirm language tracks on 4K discs of Ep. IV, V, VI in UK?
Is it really english only?
Thanks a lot

[Platitude]

The posters are the best thing about the Special Editions.

[mrp1978]

I just received an email from Zavvi in the UK, announcing a new Star Wars 4k 3 disc steelbook preorder, available from tomorrow. No other details (but it uses A New Hope poster art in the background of the email). It says "a steelbook" rather than "steelbooks". Anyone have any idea what this preorder will be? Might be the classic trilogy on 4k. Might be A New Hope 4k, blu ray and bonus disc. Hopefully will be a series of 3 disc releases for each film.