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Old 08-21-2020, 12:55 AM   #45741
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When Play Misty For Me was announced back in May, it was said to be getting a 4K master:
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• Play Misty for Me (1971) NEW 4K MASTER – Directed by Clint Eastwood
Now per this quote below from earlier last week, it’s saying 2K Master.
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Here some of the November releases:

November 10th
Play Misty for Me (1971) - New 2K Master by KL
Can KLI comment on why it changed? Is it due to cost? Elements? Both? Neither? A typo?

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Old 08-21-2020, 01:42 AM   #45742
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14 or 15 correct picks here.
Are any of them horror films?
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Old 08-21-2020, 02:21 AM   #45743
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Just read over at Tim Lucas’s blog from August 5th that he spent a month working on an epic commentary track that may never see the light of day. He doesn’t say for who but he mentions it right after saying he recorded tracks for some Kino titles. He describes the situation as similar to what happened with Lost Highway. I wonder what the title could be?
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Old 08-21-2020, 02:31 AM   #45744
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Was Kino able to get Spaceballs in this deal or is MGM still holding it back from licencing? It has a 4k HDR master ready to go and is a rather big title with a pop culture following.
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Old 08-21-2020, 02:52 AM   #45745
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These aren't intended to be guesses by any means, but rather some broad possibilities based on a few things we know (titles once with Shout, former Twilight Time titles, AIP and Cannon titles, etc). And again, this is certainly not a definitive list of possibilities:

1954 (1) - Apache; Vera Cruz
1956 (1) - Nightmare; Run for the Sun; The Boss; Man from Del Rio; The Sharkfighters; The Wild Party
1957 (1) - Voodoo Island; Drango; The Halliday Brand; The Iron Sheriff; The Bachelor Party; Trooper Hook; Saint Joan; Baby Face Nelson

1964 (2) - The Best Man; 633 Squadron; The 7th Dawn; The Train
1966 (1) - The Hills Run Red
1967 (1) - Beach Red; Kill A Dragon; Thunder Alley; Riot on Sunset Strip
1969 (1) - Impasse; Number One; Devil's 8

1970 (1) - A Bullet for Pretty Boy; Halls of Anger; Hell Boats; The Revolutionary
1971 (1) - Doc; Born to Win; Fiddler on the Roof; Bunny O'Hare
1972 (1) - Man of the East; Unholy Rollers; The Honkers; The Call of the Wild; The Visitors
1974 (1) - Golden Needles; Savage Sisters; Abby (I know); Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
1975 (1) - Hennessy; Rosebud; Smile; The Happy Hooker; Mako: The Jaws of Death
1976 (2) - Trackdown; The Old Gun; God's Gun; From Noon Till Three; Carrie
1978 (2) - The Norsemen; Mean Dog Blues; Invasion of the Body Snatchers; The Last Waltz

1985 (2) - Savage Island; Thunder Alley; Transmutations; Movers and Shakers; Wetherby; Maxie; Remo Williams; Runaway Train; To Live and Die in L.A.
1986 (2) - Eye of the Tiger; America 3000; The Tomb; The Supernaturals; In the Shadow of Kilimanjaro; Manhunter
1987 (3) - Enemy Territory; Number One With a Bullet; The Barbarians; Time Guardian; Cyclone; Under Cover; Tough Guys Don't Dance; Down Twisted; Spaceballs
1988 (1) - Mercenary Fighters; Dominick and Eugene; The Unbearable Lightness of Being

1990 (1) - Vietnam Texas; Everybody Wins; Dances With Wolves; Navy Seals
I would love The Unbearable Lightness of Being. It is owned by The Saul Zaentz Company. Hopefully they license it to someone for a Blu ray release soon.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:00 AM   #45746
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I would love The Unbearable Lightness of Being. It is owned by The Saul Zaentz Company. Hopefully they license it to someone for a Blu ray release soon.
It had a restoration a couple years ago. No idea why it hasn't appeared on disc.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:24 AM   #45747
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If Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is one of the 1974 titles, I hope Kino uses Arrow's 4K restoration and not the old transfer on the Twilight Time discs.
If they do release it and use Arrow's transfer I hope they fix the subtitle problem. The opening scene (in Spanish) is supposed to have English subtitles, but Arrow's release only gives you the option for subs for the ENTIRE film or none at all.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:36 AM   #45748
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If they do release it and use Arrow's transfer I hope they fix the subtitle problem. The opening scene (in Spanish) is supposed to have English subtitles, but Arrow's release only gives you the option for subs for the ENTIRE film or none at all.
I don't understand why Arrow felt the need to translate most of the Spanish dialogue when theatrically only the beginning El Jefe scene would of had subtitles (which is reflective in the old HD master with the burnt-in subs). After the El Jefe scene I just switch them off.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:49 AM   #45749
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These aren't intended to be guesses by any means, but rather some broad possibilities based on a few things we know (titles once with Shout, former Twilight Time titles, AIP and Cannon titles, etc). And again, this is certainly not a definitive list of possibilities:

1954 (1) - Apache; Vera Cruz
1956 (1) - Nightmare; Run for the Sun; The Boss; Man from Del Rio; The Sharkfighters; The Wild Party
1957 (1) - Voodoo Island; Drango; The Halliday Brand; The Iron Sheriff; The Bachelor Party; Trooper Hook; Saint Joan; Baby Face Nelson

1964 (2) - The Best Man; 633 Squadron; The 7th Dawn; The Train
1966 (1) - The Hills Run Red
1967 (1) - Beach Red; Kill A Dragon; Thunder Alley; Riot on Sunset Strip
1969 (1) - Impasse; Number One; Devil's 8

1970 (1) - A Bullet for Pretty Boy; Halls of Anger; Hell Boats; The Revolutionary
1971 (1) - Doc; Born to Win; Fiddler on the Roof; Bunny O'Hare
1972 (1) - Man of the East; Unholy Rollers; The Honkers; The Call of the Wild; The Visitors
1974 (1) - Golden Needles; Savage Sisters; Abby (I know); Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
1975 (1) - Hennessy; Rosebud; Smile; The Happy Hooker; Mako: The Jaws of Death
1976 (2) - Trackdown; The Old Gun; God's Gun; From Noon Till Three; Carrie
1978 (2) - The Norsemen; Mean Dog Blues; Invasion of the Body Snatchers; The Last Waltz

1985 (2) - Savage Island; Thunder Alley; Transmutations; Movers and Shakers; Wetherby; Maxie; Remo Williams; Runaway Train; To Live and Die in L.A.
1986 (2) - Eye of the Tiger; America 3000; The Tomb; The Supernaturals; In the Shadow of Kilimanjaro; Manhunter
1987 (3) - Enemy Territory; Number One With a Bullet; The Barbarians; Time Guardian; Cyclone; Under Cover; Tough Guys Don't Dance; Down Twisted; Spaceballs
1988 (1) - Mercenary Fighters; Dominick and Eugene; The Unbearable Lightness of Being

1990 (1) - Vietnam Texas; Everybody Wins; Dances With Wolves; Navy Seals
Isn’t Saint Joan with Warner Bros?
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Isn’t Saint Joan with Warner Bros?
Saint Joan is a Otto Preminger production that UA only distributed and let it's rights lapse after the theatrical release. Turner acquired the Otto Preminger films that were in public domain (Man With the Golden Arm) as well as ones the distributors didn't bother to renew and let their rights lapse on in the 90s. Those ended up with Warner as part of their Turner purchase, but only in the US. Overseas, Golden Arm is still PD and the others Otto Preminger productions that Warner control in the US are scattered between original distributors Columbia, MGM/UA, and Lionsgate (who released some of them on video in the UK through Vestron).

Speaking of Otto Preminger, Porgy and Bess 1959 is a Otto Preminger title that hasn't seen the light of day since it's theatrical run. It was a co-production with Samuel Goldwyn Sir with Columbia distributing, so that would put ownership with Warner since they also control US rights to the Samuel Goldwyn Sir titles held by the Samuel Goldwyn Family Trust.
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:33 AM   #45751
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Saint Joan is a Otto Preminger production that UA only distributed and let it's rights lapse after the theatrical release. Turner acquired the Otto Preminger films that were in public domain (Man With the Golden Arm) as well as ones the distributors didn't bother to renew and let their rights lapse on in the 90s. Those ended up with Warner as part of their Turner purchase, but only in the US.
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[Show spoiler]Overseas, Golden Arm is still PD and the others Otto Preminger productions that Warner control in the US are scattered between original distributors Columbia, MGM/UA, and Lionsgate (who released some of them on video in the UK through Vestron).

Speaking of Otto Preminger, Porgy and Bess 1959 is a Otto Preminger title that hasn't seen the light of day since it's theatrical run. It was a co-production with Samuel Goldwyn Sir with Columbia distributing, so that would put ownership with Warner since they also control US rights to the Samuel Goldwyn Sir titles held by the Samuel Goldwyn Family Trust.
Is Preminger's Advise & Consent one of the titles that ended up with Turner? That might explain why it shows regularly on TCM ...
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I guess it's okay Nick confirmed it. It was originally part of the Rock Hudson boxed set due in October, now moved to December. The other two titles are The Golden Blade and Bengal Brigade.

Three confirmations in one day
Oh, wow, that's great news about The Golden Blade! It showed on TCM earlier this month during their day-long tribute to Rock Hudson, and I just happened to catch the last half hour of it. The Technicolor cinematography was absolutely beautiful, and I thought to myself, "I can't believe I missed this one. If only it would come to blu-ray ..." And now it is!

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Is Preminger's Advise & Consent one of the titles that ended up with Turner? That might explain why it shows regularly on TCM ...
Yes, as Columbia didn't bother to maintain their distribution rights after it's theatrical release. It also had a US DVD release by Warner in 2005.
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:44 AM   #45754
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Saint Joan is a Otto Preminger production that UA only distributed and let it's rights lapse after the theatrical release. Turner acquired the Otto Preminger films that were in public domain (Man With the Golden Arm) as well as ones the distributors didn't bother to renew and let their rights lapse on in the 90s. Those ended up with Warner as part of their Turner purchase, but only in the US. Overseas, Golden Arm is still PD and the others Otto Preminger productions that Warner control in the US are scattered between original distributors Columbia, MGM/UA, and Lionsgate (who released some of them on video in the UK through Vestron).

Speaking of Otto Preminger, Porgy and Bess 1959 is a Otto Preminger title that hasn't seen the light of day since it's theatrical run. It was a co-production with Samuel Goldwyn Sir with Columbia distributing, so that would put ownership with Warner since they also control US rights to the Samuel Goldwyn Sir titles held by the Samuel Goldwyn Family Trust.
The Moon Is Blue seems to be another UA Preminger film that ended up with Warner. It was released on DVD through the Archive program along with Saint Joan, but they both appear to be out-of-print.

I believe Porgy and Bess is actually owned by the Gershwin estate who dislikes the film and has successfully buried it for decades.
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:36 AM   #45755
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The Soldier Blue commentary was worth the purchase. I hope SC puts out a new master of this important film sooner or later, my tolerance for the EE on this one is about spent (It must've been great for DVD in 06, I was happy to have it in HD when I imported the DE SC disc in 14, every year since it is more and more an eyesore, to my eyes this looks identical to the DE... sadly).

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Is Preminger's Advise & Consent one of the titles that ended up with Turner? That might explain why it shows regularly on TCM ...
Yes, as well as The Cardinal.
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Would you happen to know, or can you say anything about, whether the Souleymane Cissé film Yeelen will receive a BD upgrade by Kino at some point? I realize this is sort of a random question — especially given that it's an older release and not part of the KLSC line — but I've been wanting to grab it for a while, and I would definitely wait for a BD upgrade. Definitely the kind of film that would benefit from a solid HD transfer.

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Since no 1968 film made the cut in the MGM deal I guess I will just have to continue hoping that "Charge of the Light Brigade" makes it to Blu-ray some other way....
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Since no 1968 film made the cut in the MGM deal I guess I will just have to continue hoping that "Charge of the Light Brigade" makes it to Blu-ray some other way....
There is currently a Region B German Blu-Ray of this film available.
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Speaking of Otto Preminger, Porgy and Bess 1959 is a Otto Preminger title that hasn't seen the light of day since it's theatrical run. It was a co-production with Samuel Goldwyn Sir with Columbia distributing, so that would put ownership with Warner since they also control US rights to the Samuel Goldwyn Sir titles held by the Samuel Goldwyn Family Trust.
I was lucky enough to catch it at a ultra rare public screening at UCLA in the 90’s. They advised you to call their film department one hour before the start of the screening to make sure they still had the permission and authorization to show it. For all of that, the screening wasn’t heavily attended, but I’m really glad I went. I didn’t think the movie was great as a whole, but it had a lot of great elements to it, especially Sammy Davis Jr.
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