The Renew/Cancel Index

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

GLOW canceled by Netflix after 3 seasons, couldn't find the thread so I posted it here.

They were renewed for a final season but only were able to complete one episode before production shutdown. The decision was made mainly due to the COVID-19 restrictions on filming that would have made completing the season impossible.

It is worth noting that the series regulars have already received their salaries for the unfinished season.

https://deadline.com/2020/10/glow-ca...on-1234591535/

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

They were renewed for a final season but only were able to complete one episode before production shutdown. The decision was made mainly due to the COVID-19 restrictions on filming that would have made completing the season impossible.

It is worth noting that the series regulars have already received their salaries for the unfinished season.

https://deadline.com/2020/10/glow-ca...on-1234591535/

I don't get this. So we just don't get an ending? Why can't they just delay production and shoot later?

[craigbarr2003]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

It is worth noting that the series regulars have already received their salaries for the unfinished season.

https://deadline.com/2020/10/glow-ca...on-1234591535/

Cast did, crew of course didn't get squat.

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by Joey9775

I don't get this. So we just don't get an ending? Why can't they just delay production and shoot later?

That would have made too much sense, and I also don't get why they couldn't do it at some point even with the restrictions. The actual wrestling "leagues" film their wrestling shows every week. That excuse is BS.

It really sucks that it won't get an ending, especially since it was one of their better shows (at least imo). If Netflix didn't have The Witcher, I'd likely cancel at this point with so much of their stuff getting cancelled or getting hardly any seasons.

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by KilloWertz

That would have made too much sense, and I also don't get why they couldn't do it at some point even with the restrictions. The actual wrestling "leagues" film their wrestling shows every week. That excuse is BS.

It really sucks that it won't get an ending, especially since it was one of their better shows (at least imo). If Netflix didn't have The Witcher, I'd likely cancel at this point with so much of their stuff getting cancelled or getting hardly any seasons.

Seriously. Now if a show gets announced for Netflix, I fully expect 3 seasons and out regardless of any cliffhangers. They've become the new Fox.

[Fiffy]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

GLOW canceled by Netflix after 3 seasons, couldn't find the thread so I posted it here.

Netflix is rapidly becoming the king of cancelling great shows before their time.

[DaBargainHunta]

I am infuriated by the cancellation of GLOW. Promoting the incompetent Ted Sarandos to co-CEO after such a dismal track record of unnecessary cancellations is eventually going to be Netflix's undoing.

[jan_tran]

Do people even read the accompanying statements? Clearly, this wasn’t a decision made lightly.

[DaBargainHunta]

If this was a rare aberration, you could excuse and shill for Netflix, as you're doing. But Netflix does this constantly. It's a pattern.

Originally Posted by jan_tran

Do people even read the accompanying statements? Clearly, this wasn’t a decision made lightly.

We all read it. We all offered much more logical solutions, such as this one...

Originally Posted by Joey9775

I don't get this. So we just don't get an ending? Why can't they just delay production and shoot later?

Dozens of examples of this:

Originally Posted by Joey9775

Seriously. Now if a show gets announced for Netflix, I fully expect 3 seasons and out regardless of any cliffhangers. They've become the new Fox.

Like I said, it's a pattern.

I don't understand how this can continue to be a sustainable business model. It can't be IMO. In the long run, it's going to bite them hard.

[jan_tran]

Financially, it doesn’t make sense. How you gonna keep a cast this large contractually tied to the show when it can shoot when, 2021? 2022? They can’t take other jobs, waiting for the fortunate moment shooting gets green lit again, sitting in anticipation? There’s more factors involved other than just time.

[DaBargainHunta]

Originally Posted by jan_tran

Financially, it doesn’t make sense. How you gonna keep a cast this large contractually tied to the show when it can shoot when, 2021? 2022? They can’t take other jobs, waiting for the fortunate moment shooting gets green lit again, sitting in anticipation? There’s more factors involved other than just time.

All of that is true, but if Netflix really wanted to make it work, they would have.

Stranger Things has resumed shooting, and its cast is just as large. Plus, that show has the added complication of growth spurts, puberty, etc. Netflix figured it out though.

[randian]

Originally Posted by Joey9775

Seriously. Now if a show gets announced for Netflix, I fully expect 3 seasons and out regardless of any cliffhangers. They've become the new Fox.

Would it even get to 3 seasons on Fox? Fox was the king of one (or less) and done for a long time. I'm still annoyed at Harsh Realm getting canceled just as it was getting interesting.

This is as much a showrunner problem as a Netflix problem. If you expect to get canceled at 3 seasons write the show for 3 seasons.

[Chedwiggen]

Kind of weird how some shows are getting canceled over covid while others go ahead.

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by Chedwiggen

Kind of weird how some shows are getting canceled over covid while others go ahead.

That's why some are thinking it's just an excuse to drop expensive shows from the roster now. Netflix gonna Netflix.

[DaBargainHunta]

Originally Posted by Joey9775

That's why some are thinking it's just an excuse to drop expensive shows from the roster now. Netflix gonna Netflix.

That's exactly what it is.

This is business as usual for Netflix and Ted Sarandos's typical M.O.

[filmbuffTX]

Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

All of that is true, but if Netflix really wanted to make it work, they would have.

Stranger Things has resumed shooting, and its cast is just as large. Plus, that show has the added complication of growth spurts, puberty, etc. Netflix figured it out though.

Stranger Things is one of their flagship series though. It's a pop culture phenomenon. No surprise they made it work. I've personally never heard of GLOW, but I don't watch that many streaming series. I'm more of a traditional network/cable TV viewer.

The good thing about traditional network shows is there is an actual metric that the public can see that is the biggest deciding factor if a show gets renewed or not: ratings. The streaming services for the most part don't rely on advertisers so they have a whole set of different reasons for renewing or cancelling a show.

[DaBargainHunta]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

Stranger Things is one of their flagship series though. It's a pop culture phenomenon. No surprise they made it work. I've personally never heard of GLOW, but I don't watch that many streaming series. I'm more of a traditional network/cable TV viewer.

The good thing about traditional network shows is there is an actual metric that the public can see that is the biggest deciding factor if a show gets renewed or not: ratings. The streaming services for the most part don't rely on advertisers so they have a whole set of different reasons for renewing or cancelling a show.

Netflix shows seem to fall into six categories:

Massive hits (more than 4 seasons): Stranger Things, Grace and Frankie, Fuller House, etc.

Moderate hits (3-4 seasons but given a proper ending): Lost in Space, Atypical, Dead to Me, GLOW, etc. - GLOW is the exception because of the pandemic. (We'll see if Atypical's renewal gets reversed. 50/50 on that IMO. Netflix might keep a "prestige message" show for the optics.)

Fading hits AKA "too expensive": All of those shows with a following and/or star-power that get cancelled after 3 seasons with a cliffhanger (Santa Clarita Diet, etc.)

Good/decent shows with only one season (usually not promoted properly): Everyone's tastes are different, but Everything Sucks, No Good Nick, etc. would fit into this category. (One decent show I didn't mind with almost no promotion behind it was the Tony Danza/Josh Groban series The Good Monk by the Monk showrunner. It premiered the same day as that Emma Stone/Jonah Hill show I never watched, not promoted, and basically sent out to die. Kind of like Deaf U premiering the same day as Bly Manor this week.)

Crappy shows with one season: I won't name shows here and incite a flame war for no reason. Truthfully, if it's crap, I probably never watched it or gave up quickly.

Shows originally owned by others that Netflix bought or partnered on: Rita (which got completed), Designated Survivor (which got cancelled), etc.

[goresnet]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

GLOW canceled by Netflix after 3 seasons, couldn't find the thread so I posted it here.

Well, that sucks. I really enjoyed GLOW, and I thought it had already been renewed for the next season

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by goresnet

Well, that sucks. I really enjoyed GLOW, and I thought it had already been renewed for the next season

It had, for a final season, and they filmed an episode before production shut down.

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

GLOW canceled by Netflix after 3 seasons, couldn't find the thread so I posted it here.

I think I posted this sometime ago.