4K UHD Blu-ray Playback on PC Desktop is officially dead in 2021?

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by JEArgumedo

I'm not ripping the disc, it's not illegal. At most, it breaks a terms of service agreement somewhere, but it's absolutely not illegal to playback the disc through something like VLC.

It still plays the disc by cracking the copy protection, not legally decrypting it. It is illegal to crack the copy protection on an (Ultra HD) Blu-ray or DVD. Again, tell Macgo. I've told them already, so we need more people to tell them.

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

It still plays the disc by cracking the copy protection, not legally decrypting it. It is illegal to crack the copy protection on an (Ultra HD) Blu-ray or DVD. Again, tell Macgo. I've told them already, so we need more people to tell them.

There's a big difference between what's legal and what's moral. Let him do what he wants with his own discs, so long as he doesn't share the copies. It's always smart to have backups anyway.

Originally Posted by slimdude

4K movies are made and should be viewed on a big screen. Watching 4K on a desktop computer and small portable devices wouldn't do the technology any justice.

My PC is connected to two monitors as well as my big TV. I can control it wirelessly from my coffee table or bed.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by Bn43

There's a big difference between what's legal and what's moral. Let him do what he wants with his own discs, so long as he doesn't share the copies. It's always smart to have backups anyway.



My PC is connected to two monitors as well as my big TV. I can control it wirelessly from my coffee table or bed.

The reason copy protection exists on the disc because while you do own the disc itself, you don’t own what’s on the disc, because if you did, you could theoretically modify what happens in the film. When you purchase a disc, you are actually purchasing a lifetime license to watch the film, not the film itself. Breaking the encryption is a violation of Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Since the discs are pressed and last forever, there is no need to make a backup copy that will degrade over time. I don’t think you are allowed to promote illegal playback methods on this forum.

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

The reason copy protection exists on the disc because while you do own the disc itself, you don’t own what’s on the disc, because if you did, you could theoretically modify what happens in the film. When you purchase a disc, you are actually purchasing a lifetime license to watch the film, not the film itself. Breaking the encryption is a violation of Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Since the discs are pressed and last forever, there is no need to make a backup copy that will degrade over time. I don’t think you are allowed to promote illegal playback methods on this forum.

So? There is nothing immoral about it. I don't know why people bring up the fact that you only own a license as if it makes any practical difference. Practically, that copy of the movie is mine. The DMCA doesn't impact what I am doing. There are plenty of laws I don't agree with.

All discs degrade. Some quicker than others. Besides, other things can happen, like natural disasters, accidents or theft.

I also rip my discs because every other one freezes at least once when using my player. I never have to deal with that when I'm using my computer. Another reason is that my cabinet is so full that I now have to place movies on top of and in front of each other, which makes searching for them much more tedious than just typing the title into the Windows search box. My apartment is too small for another cabinet.

Navigation is also far quicker and simpler with MKV files.

A pretty substantial number of users here post screenshots taken from their own rips, so it seems the site doesn't care much.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by Bn43

So? There is nothing immoral about it. I don't know why people bring up the fact that you only own a license as if it makes any practical difference. Practically, that copy of the movie is mine. The DMCA doesn't impact what I am doing. There are plenty of laws I don't agree with.

All discs degrade. Some quicker than others. Besides, other things can happen, like natural disasters, accidents or theft.

I also rip my discs because every other one freezes at least once when using my player. I never have to deal with that when I'm using my computer. Another reason is that my cabinet is so full that I now have to place movies on top of and in front of each other, which makes searching for them much more tedious than just typing the title into the Windows search box. My apartment is too small for another cabinet.

Navigation is also far quicker and simpler with MKV files.

A pretty substantial number of users here post screenshots taken from their own rips, so it seems the site doesn't care much.

Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.

[Auditor55]

US Blu-ray Sales Decline In 2020





"For the last decade physical media sales, read plastic discs, have continued to decline. Ranging from -5% in 2012 to -18% in 2019. The even more startling news is that disc sales are down almost 23% relative to 2019 in the first quarter of 2020. Clearly one has to assume that with COVID severely impacting the production of any new movies and the on-going re-release on 4K of many older movies, that there are very few big new releases arriving on Blu-ray in Q1 & Q2 2020. Well actually any quarter this year!"

https://fromvinyltoplastic.com/us-bl...cline-in-2020/

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.

Me neither. But I've seen several people here and elsewhere report rotting. It happens. Depends on quality control as well.

[rachaeldeckard]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.

Consider yourself lucky. I've had rot on every format. Certain discs were guaranteed to rot especially on laserdisc.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by rachaeldeckard

8K OLED 88"

Did you really spring for that LG SIGNATURE Z9 or ZX (pronounced Z ten) OLED? Didn't think we'd have a member with one of those.

[apollo828]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Pressed discs do not degrade

Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by apollo828

Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.

None of mine have rotted. I have some discs from the early years of Compact Disc and they all look and play perfectly.

[Bn43]

Originally Posted by apollo828

Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.

One of the reasons I decided to get a cabinet with doors. I want to reduce exposure as much as possible.