HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by styxrogan

$10,000 clams

As my friend Wabo would say - that’s small pumpkins….err potatoes, when one considers, (adjusted for the rate of inflation today), what $10,000/and more for a TV cost you back in the day -



These display addictions can be difficult to break.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I want to see MicroLED...8K.

If you want to see poor CRI unnatural light, just turn on the LED lights at home and stare at them. It will be a lot cheaper.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

As my friend Wabo would say - that’s small pumpkins….err potatoes, when one considers, (adjusted for the rate of inflation today), what $10,000/and more for a TV cost you back in the day -

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These display addictions can be difficult to break.

Is that PM's invoice for the mighty Q006? A rarified club if ever there was one. $15 minimum payment on a $15k balance. Lol. You'd still be paying it off.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

If you want to see poor CRI unnatural light, just turn on the LED lights at home and stare at them. It will be a lot cheaper.

Stop hating!!

[Waboman]

1,000 nit oled. Lol. What can possibly go wrong? Might be wise to sit out the first few generations. Let the bugs work themselves out.

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Waboman

1,000 nit oled. Lol. What can possibly go wrong? Might be wise to sit out the first few generations. Let the bugs work themselves out.

Panasonic already has 1000 nit OLEDS. Less prone to BI, and less IR, all by adding a heat sink. That is what LG is doing with the 2021 models. So if you dont want to experiment with LG’s first attempt with a heat sink, get a current Panasonic instead.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Panasonic already has 1000 nit OLEDS. Less prone to BI, and less IR, all by adding a heat sink. That is what LG is doing with the 2021 models. So if you dont want to experiment with LG’s first attempt with a heat sink, get a current Panasonic instead.

Is that peak brightness? On a 2%. 10% or 25% window?

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Is that peak brightness? On a 2%. 10% or 25% window?

That is peak brightness in a 10% window. Also, ABL is less aggressive on the Panasonic with Full screen peak brightness higher than any current LG OLED. I believe it is closer to 300 nits vs 150 nits with the current LG OLEDS. Their heat sink allows them to drive the tv harder with no adverse affects. So I bet we will see those numbers with the new LG's when they add their heat sink. But that's about the highest you will ever get with an OLED, so 2021 is probably it with what LG can do with OLED.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Panasonic already has 1000 nit OLEDS. Less prone to BI, and less IR, all by adding a heat sink. That is what LG is doing with the 2021 models. So if you dont want to experiment with LG’s first attempt with a heat sink, get a current Panasonic instead.

What is that heat sink but an internal fan?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

What is that heat sink but an internal fan?

Does it matter, as long as it works? It's not even the moar nits that excites me about the 'heat sink', it's the lack of short term image retention that really got my attention.

[Spartan21]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

But that's about the highest you will ever get with an OLED, so 2021 is probably it with what LG can do with OLED.

That's good to hear because I still have my Pioneer Elite Plasma and have been slowly saving my pennies and not rushing to get an OLED. Looks like I will finally get an OLED in 2021 and as big as I can afford (77 or even the 83). My timing will be fantastic yesssss.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

That is peak brightness in a 10% window. Also, ABL is less aggressive on the Panasonic with Full screen peak brightness higher than any current LG OLED. I believe it is closer to 300 nits vs 150 nits with the current LG OLEDS. Their heat sink allows them to drive the tv harder with no adverse affects. So I bet we will see those numbers with the new LG's when they add their heat sink. But that's about the highest you will ever get with an OLED, so 2021 is probably it with what LG can do with OLED.

Awesome. Really hope they put that tech in the 83". I'm itching to get rid of my Samsung lcd after the dimming went backwards from the Q9FN I had to make a warranty claim on.

BTW, do you have any sources for it being 300nits full field? I found 2 reviews and 1 said 160nits full field and the other said 130.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Does it matter, as long as it works? It's not even the moar nits that excites me about the 'heat sink', it's the lack of short term image retention that really got my attention.

Meh, in my three years of using OLED I have never spotted the effects of IR, not once (well except for that one time I left it out in the sun, but that doesn't really count.) Least of the OLED issues by far in my opinion.

Less aggressive ABL would be welcome though, my C7 occasionally struggled with the Lego movies.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Meh, in my three years of using OLED I have never spotted the effects of IR, not once (well except for that one time I left it out in the sun, but that doesn't really count.) Least of the OLED issues by far in my opinion.

Less aggressive ABL would be welcome though, my C7 occasionally struggled with the Lego movies.

Sure, sure, and then someone else says something completely different. I think natural panel variations plays a part, as does mixing up the content that you're watching, maybe even the ambient temperature of the viewing environment, but as I don't use the TV to actually watch a lot of TV then I've still got a niggling concern about retention of letterbox bars after what happened with my plasma. But hey, with the heat sink it's something I really wouldn't have to be concerned about...unlike dat ASBL, service menu tweakery aside.

[Scottishguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOFD...ature=youtu.be

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Does it matter, as long as it works? It's not even the moar nits that excites me about the 'heat sink', it's the lack of short term image retention that really got my attention.

Just trying to understand the technology behind it. I remember Panasonic doing something similar with some of there late generation plasmas, in an attempt to make them brighter, they added fans inside of them, which were sometimes loud enough to be distracting.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOFD...ature=youtu.be

It's still 2020 for 8 more days.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

It's still 2020 for 8 more days.

Thanks for the painful reminder

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Panasonic already has 1000 nit OLEDS. Less prone to BI, and less IR, all by adding a heat sink. That is what LG is doing with the 2021 models. So if you dont want to experiment with LG’s first attempt with a heat sink, get a current Panasonic instead.

They do make the best tv's

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

They do make the best tv's