Transformers Blu PQ vs Dish HD

[HeavyHitter]

If 300 doesn't show A LOT of grain, you are missing A LOT of detail and the intent of the filmmaker.

Personally, I love the overall look of the film.

[mugupo]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

If 300 doesn't show A LOT of grain, you are missing A LOT of detail and the intent of the filmmaker.

Personally, I love the overall look of the film.

did explain why grain movie always get lower star in pq department.

[Sir Platypus]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

If 300 doesn't show A LOT of grain, you are missing A LOT of detail and the intent of the filmmaker.

Personally, I love the overall look of the film.

THIS. 300 is supposed to look extremely grainy.

[neos_peace]

I'm not going to be like alot of other memebers on here and say "hey this has been discussed before (which it has )" BUT movies like 300 which is awesome on Blu is supposed to be very grainy. The director and producers wanted it, it's what gives 300 that feel. Grain is a natural product from the filming and post prodution system. However there are ways to adjust and get rid of it. I personaly have adjusted my TV settings to get rid of 2/3 of it. Yes it takes away some detail, but not enough that makes it bad. Example, TDK. I hate the grainy in scenes form it. I adjusted and It still looks amazing. BUT you have to remember some people aren't used to it becasue we never saw it on reg DVD. Blu has MUCH MUCH MUCH more detail therefore you will see things you never saw before.

[brdmaverick]

Originally Posted by neos_peace

I'm not going to be like alot of other memebers on here and say "hey this has been discussed before (which it has )" BUT movies like 300 which is awesome on Blu is supposed to be very grainy. The director and producers wanted it, it's what gives 300 that feel. Grain is a natural product from the filming and post prodution system. However there are ways to adjust and get rid of it. I personaly have adjusted my TV settings to get rid of 2/3 of it. Yes it takes away some detail, but not enough that makes it bad. Example, TDK. I hate the grainy in scenes form it. I adjusted and It still looks amazing. BUT you have to remember some people aren't used to it becasue we never saw it on reg DVD. Blu has MUCH MUCH MUCH more detail therefore you will see things you never saw before.

I agree that blu ray has much much more detail, but isn't it supposed to be for the better.

A hot girl from distance isn't always a hot girl up close. If that is the case, wouldn't we rather stay far away from these girls?

I know it has been discussed before, and that the grain is intentional, but I just don't see the quality in it. It makes the quality go down in my eyes, and apparently yours too if you are adjusting your TV to get rid of it.

[Blacklac]

Originally Posted by brdmaverick

I know it has been discussed before, and that the grain is intentional, but I just don't see the quality in it.

It's part of recording on film. It's not something added as an enhancement, unless a director decides to do so.

I personally appreciate a nice layer of film grain. It looks natural to me. Not life-like, but film-like. If you want life-like, look out a window!

Also, if grain is present and/or heavy, you know the studio hasn't over processed the movie with DNR, or the like, and removed all the nice detail that we pay extra for.

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by brdmaverick

I agree that blu ray has much much more detail, but isn't it supposed to be for the better.

A hot girl from distance isn't always a hot girl up close. If that is the case, wouldn't we rather stay far away from these girls?

I know it has been discussed before, and that the grain is intentional, but I just don't see the quality in it. It makes the quality go down in my eyes, and apparently yours too if you are adjusting your TV to get rid of it.

This is actually the new thing that lovers of film are battling against. Remember non-animorphic DVDs? We hated those. We hated fullscreen pan and scan of letterbox movies on DVDs. The thing to be educated on is film grain. It can be a specific director's artistic intent to have film grain. Would you advocate somebody deleting curse words from Pulp Fiction because it was offensive? No way. Removing film grain is removing parts of the movie. Further, when you remove grain, you also remove other details that can make it look even worse. Learn to love the film grain, my friend. The very nature of using film will always create grain, especially in low level lighting. Some directors want it. 300 is the easiest example. In the video game Mass Effect they used it to create a more cinematic affect. Many war films use it to make it more gritty.

Blu-ray is intended to create a cinema quality environment in your home. Grain is in the movies when you watch them in the theater; therefore, it should be there in the Blu-ray. It should never be removed unless it is the specific intent of the director, and, only then, with very careful skill. I can also state that the Blu-ray of Transformers is wonderful. Mine is actually better than when I saw it in the theater. Learn to love the grain.

[wafi]

Grain is your friend!