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Old 04-29-2009, 06:42 PM   #1
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I live in a fairly small apartment and I run my audio through a rather simple 5.1 home theater in a box setup. The receiver is capable of playing both Dolby and DTS. I am always worried about annoying my neighbors so I never like too much sound. Movie that use Dolby Digital or Dolby TrueHD I can usual find a decent balance and have everything at the same level throughout. However, no matter what settings I use, I always have to constantly fiddle with DTS during the movie. The dialogue is too soft and sound effects and music cues are just too loud. It is no fun trying to relax during a movie when you constantly have to adjust the volume.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Would my settings for Dolby True be that far off from DTS? I'd appreciate any advice you could give on how best to use DTS at a lower level in a small space.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:45 PM   #2
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Have you balanced the levels of your different channels so that they all match? I did mine with a radioshack sound level meter and have no problems with either DD or DTS
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:45 PM   #3
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try messing with the Dynamic Range settings, i think that is what governs the difference between the loudest and softest volume in the movie. if range is high, you'll have big gap between loud and soft. if range is low, gap won't be that big. sorry don't know too much more. i live in a house, so dont have the problem
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:50 PM   #4
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That's why i love the Audyssey Dynamic Volume on my receiver. It apply to anything that receiver output!
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:56 PM   #5
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My JVC has a "Midnite Mode" that reduces the dynamic range so you don't have to keep adjusting the volume control.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:00 PM   #6
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Wow. What a statement!!! First time I see somebody saying that he hates DTS.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:01 PM   #7
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DTS, too me, is my favorite because of it's brightness and it just seems more dynamic, anything Dolby is just a bit more dull IMVHO. Perhaps you just have a preference, but I see your perceived differences.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:07 PM   #8
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Let me explain...

I live in a fairly small apartment and I run my audio through a rather simple 5.1 home theater in a box setup. The receiver is capable of playing both Dolby and DTS. I am always worried about annoying my neighbors so I never like too much sound. Movie that use Dolby Digital or Dolby TrueHD I can usual find a decent balance and have everything at the same level throughout. However, no matter what settings I use, I always have to constantly fiddle with DTS during the movie. The dialogue is too soft and sound effects and music cues are just too loud. It is no fun trying to relax during a movie when you constantly have to adjust the volume.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Would my settings for Dolby True be that far off from DTS? I'd appreciate any advice you could give on how best to use DTS at a lower level in a small space.
have you considered trying wireless headphones?
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:21 PM   #9
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Well....... if u live in a flat then FORGET ABOUT home cinema, sorry but that is the trouth.

DTS have the greatest sound so don't want to hear any complaints about that!!.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:24 PM   #10
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Get a Bose system, that will fix your dynamic range. LOL






No highs, no lows, must be Bose.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:35 PM   #11
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From an article i read on Cnet. i think you think play around with the volume of each channels. Not the master volume but the one where like with my receiver there is a ch button that let you increase the volume of the center channel to hear the actors voice a little louder or increase or decrease the left/right for the music and sound effect volume. I think it's better than having Dynamic range on or off because you get to control the sound u want rather than the receiver deciding.

The incredible Hulk DTS-Hd sound amazing on all the channels. by the way
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:40 PM   #12
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You may want to check your receiver's manual. It may be that the "night" mode or compression setting only works on Dolby Digital sources and not with DTS sources. If this is the case, then DTS will sound more dynamic because it isn't being ruined by a cheap compressor in the receiver.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:50 PM   #13
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You may want to check your receiver's manual. It may be that the "night" mode or compression setting only works on Dolby Digital sources and not with DTS sources. If this is the case, then DTS will sound more dynamic because it isn't being ruined by a cheap compressor in the receiver.
In reading your sig, there is no such thing as a 5.2 system. There is no current format that allows for two discrete LFE outputs. In small rooms, two discrete LFE channels are a waste which is why it does not exist.

May sound impressive, but it is a false impression.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:01 PM   #14
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ahhh....but that's the beauty of DTS!!
It has the greatest dynamic range by nature, and it was purely designed so from the get-go (way back in 1993). The bass is the cleanest, the purest, yet the most powerful and accurate you will ever encounter on any form of digital audio media -- BAR NONE! The midrange....ahhhh, that most important part of the audio signal......is most fluid, clear and deadly accurate -- as anything with good midrange should sound.
You can take any advice from the other members, but DTS -- purely by nature and design -- is simply the nature of the beast. And one beautiful animal.

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Old 04-29-2009, 09:06 PM   #15
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In reading your sig, there is no such thing as a 5.2 system. There is no current format that allows for two discrete LFE outputs. In small rooms, two discrete LFE channels are a waste which is why it does not exist.

May sound impressive, but it is a false impression.
I completely agree but unfortunately, accuracy was disregarded when someone wanted a way to make "dual-mono subwoofers" sound cooler. The .2 or .3 etc has become the common accepted way to list how many subwoofers one uses not how many separate LFE channels there are.

However, that isn't to say that it won't happen in the future. Since there are Dolby formats that support up to 16 discreet channels, it is quite possible that we could see them in the future.

Regardless, having two subwoofers 'feels' so much better when watching big explosions.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:14 PM   #16
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I personally prefer A good DTS track over A DOLBY track anytime ! I wish they were all DTS .
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I personally prefer A good DTS track over A DOLBY track anytime ! I wish they were all DTS .
I am also 100% agree with your statement, DTS is almost like day and night when compare to Dolby.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:24 PM   #18
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I personally prefer A good DTS track over A DOLBY track anytime ! I wish they were all DTS .
True dat.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:35 PM   #19
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Thanks for the advice everybody.

Both the receiver and my blu-ray player have DRC and they are both on. Dialogue Boost is at MAX on the receiver. Midnight mode is ON as well. I have also already boosted the center speaker up a few notches above the side speakers. Still no luck. Even freakin' Role Models gave me problems last night.

Do people really like the insane extremes that DTS has? Barely audible dialogue explodes to knock you out of your chair when a song is played over the soundtrack? Doesn't make any sense. The worst was when I watched Sunshine. Great movie and a kick butt soundtrack but unfortunately I keep having to adjust the levels every couple of minutes because of the drastic range. (If I remember correctly, that one at least had the Dolby option).

I would just assume that my receiver is crap but I really enjoy what it does with Dolby so I have a hard time dropping at least $400 to replace it and the speakers.

EDIT: Also the received comes with one of those mics to automatically set it levels compared to where I usually sit in the room. Doesn't seem to help much (no surprise).

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Old 04-29-2009, 10:27 PM   #20
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Forget the neighbors and enjoy your movies.
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