Disney+'s - WandaVision (Season 1)

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by jeangreyforever

I never expected the casting of Evan Peters as Faux Pietro to be anything besides a meta wink to the audience, especially since his Quicksilver became more beloved than ATJ's Quicksilver to general audiences (not that ATJ was ever given much chance to shine with only one movie). The idea of the FoX-Men invading the MCU filled me with dread so I'm glad this has been debunked once and for all.

Well, at least Deadpool will invade the MCU.

[jeangreyforever]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Well, at least Deadpool will invade the MCU.

I barely counted him as part of the X-Universe. All the characters from the X-Men films that appeared in the Deadpool movies were basically completely rebooted.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by jeangreyforever

I barely counted him as part of the X-Universe. All the characters from the X-Men films that appeared in the Deadpool movies were basically completely rebooted.

The Mutants: Marvel Studios is officially bringing X-MEN Into the MCU: Exclusive TheIlluminerdi.com 3/4/21

The Illuminerdi has learned of a Marvel Studios-led project produced by Marvel CCO Kevin Feige entitled, The Mutants. It’s currently being developed as a feature film and is intended to be a reboot of the X-Men franchise.

Supposedly 2023

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by jeangreyforever

I barely counted him as part of the X-Universe. All the characters from the X-Men films that appeared in the Deadpool movies were basically completely rebooted.

X-Men Cameo Scene - Wade Hugs Colossus | Deadpool 2 (2018) Movie CLIP 4K - YouTube

[Star Lord]

Fox-Men is still dead though.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Star Lord

Fox-Men is still dead though.

Well of course. Otherwise we wouldn't have gotten Logan.

[John1701D]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Difference is, the fake infinity gauntlet was addressed. The darkhole doesn't. Also Thanos is a CGI character, so it's not like the casual audience can tell.

Darkhole? Is that anything like the Cyberhole?

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by John1701D

Darkhole? Is that anything like the Cyberhole?

Want to find out?

[John1701D]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Want to find out?

[CyberpunkCentral]

Oh shit! That came out wrong. ._.

[trevrox]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Then explain this...

[Show spoiler]

No, it's not just different logos. Those are two different studios. Meaning, Marvel Studios have nothing to do with those shows. Why do you thin WandaVision is the only Marvel show with the Marvel Studios logo instead of the regular Marvel Entertainment logo? Not to mention, Kevin Feige admiting he has nothing to do with the shows except for the Disney+ ones.

Discrepancies in continuity don't dictate what is and isn't canon. Spider-Man: Homecoming is still canon in the MCU even though the 8 years later title card makes no sense in the timeline.

Feige's involvement also doesn't dictate what is and isn't canon. If he were to actually come out and say they were being decanonized, and Disney backed him, then that's another story. But Marvel Studios, Marvel Entertainment, ABC Studios... guess what they all have in common? They are owned by Disney. It's all MCU content made by Disney.

If you want to argue that the shows are irrelevant, then you would be correct. But I'm tired of the debate between what is and isn't canon when we will never be the ones to decide that.

[trevrox]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Point? I'm just saying, replacing a CGI actor is not the same as replacing an actor like Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans, or a Chris Hemsworth in their Marvel roles.

Or replacing an actor like Edward Norton or Terrence Howard. It would break the canon.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by trevrox

Discrepancies in continuity don't dictate what is and isn't canon. Spider-Man: Homecoming is still canon in the MCU even though the 8 years later title card makes no sense in the timeline.

Feige's involvement also doesn't dictate what is and isn't canon. If he were to actually come out and say they were being decanonized, and Disney backed him, then that's another story. But Marvel Studios, Marvel Entertainment, ABC Studios... guess what they all have in common? They are owned by Disney. It's all MCU content made by Disney.

If you want to argue that the shows are irrelevant, then you would be correct. But I'm tired of the debate between what is and isn't canon when we will never be the ones to decide that.

I'm just asking for some consistency is all. But if we go by that logic, then you have to bring in the Fox shows and Hulu's Helstrom as well.

[trevrox]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I'm just asking for some consistency is all. But if we go by that logic, then you have to bring in the Fox shows and Hulu's Helstrom as well.

If we go by the logic of Disney dictating canon we have to include Fox shows that were made before Disney bought them? They never made any claim that these shows were being added to the canon, so... no. And Helstrom is already confirmed not canon.

It's a bit strange to say "if we go by that logic" in a way to put down what I said but then get the logic completely wrong.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by trevrox

If we go by the logic of Disney dictating canon we have to include Fox shows that were made before Disney bought them? They never made any claim that these shows were being added to the canon, so... no. And Helstrom is already confirmed not canon.

It's a bit strange to say "if we go by that logic" in a way to put down what I said but then get the logic completely wrong.

But like you said and I quote, "But Marvel Studios, Marvel Entertainment, ABC Studios... guess what they all have in common? They are owned by Disney. It's all MCU content made by Disney." So does that mean the Netflix shows don't count? Also Disney always had the TV rights to X-Men, not Fox.

[XavierTheaterPotato]

Originally Posted by jeangreyforever

I barely counted him as part of the X-Universe. All the characters from the X-Men films that appeared in the Deadpool movies were basically completely rebooted.

And he's Well aware of it.

"McAvoy or Stewart?"

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

And he's Well aware of it.

"McAvoy or Stewart?"

Not sure how that means they are rebooted since both are still Fox versions.

[XavierTheaterPotato]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Not sure how that means they are rebooted since both are still Fox versions.

Weren't they Soft Rebooted a few times in that franchise?

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by trevrox

Discrepancies in continuity don't dictate what is and isn't canon. Spider-Man: Homecoming is still canon in the MCU even though the 8 years later title card makes no sense in the timeline.

Feige's involvement also doesn't dictate what is and isn't canon. If he were to actually come out and say they were being decanonized, and Disney backed him, then that's another story. But Marvel Studios, Marvel Entertainment, ABC Studios... guess what they all have in common? They are owned by Disney. It's all MCU content made by Disney.

If you want to argue that the shows are irrelevant, then you would be correct. But I'm tired of the debate between what is and isn't canon when we will never be the ones to decide that.

It's a "One Way" Canon. The events of the MCU movies happened (kinda) in the shows. The event of the shows had no effect on the movies.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

Weren't they Soft Rebooted a few times in the that franchise?

Yes, which Fox-Men team you guys are talking about. But yeah, this is why I don't care if they reboot X-Men into the MCU. Fox rebooted X-Men within the Foxverse a dozen times and were probably were going to do it again after Dark Phoenix if Disney never bought Fox. Either way, X-Men were going to get rebooted, regardless.