You know, one thing I'm happy about with PS3's exclusive fall/winter lineup...

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

first off i have a 360, second off the player movements in oblivion are utter sh1t, yeah running sideways down a hill looks real good in 3rd person view. the 360 version of oblivion has awful drops in framerate (thanks to not being able to cache b/c of no standard hdd) and player models are nothing to brag about either. also, a lot of things such as grass, bushes, weeds, trees there are only a few variations and they are simply repeated over and over and over again. while oblivion has a great story, the side missions get overly repeatitive with finding crap for people or killing somebody off (i have the game for both systems and i do like it, just in spurts though). how long is the camapign in GoW, yeah like 5 hours my point made. pgr 3 has 80 cars about a quarter of what gran turismo 5 will have when it comes out and only has 4 different environments (cities) to tool around in. really not nothing special, ign said if felt more like pgr 2.75, oh well there is already pgr 4, oh wait bizzaire already proved my point about limited disc space by saying, well, they need more disc space. crackdown, well just going off the ign review it said its not a long game, and it gave the graphics an average 7 out of 10. rainbow 6 vegas is you best bet to prove your argument. its a solid game, however i think its going to have trouble standing up to some of the other big shooters coming out such as haze, unreal, killzone, in the end, r6v is going to fall behind in both graphics and gameplay to at least one of these (most likely unreal, which epic has already stated blu-ray has helped out considerbly and the xbox version will have more compression and less maps). and i will trash talk something that scratched up one of my discs, because i bumped the console accidently while playing, that has had 3rl, and really doesn't offer me more than a bunch of shooters with some racing games that will not live up to gran turismo, adventure games that will not live up to drake's fortune, innovative games like littlebigplanet, or an rpg that can live up to ff series.

Touche

I did find GOW to be long enough though. And then the online was really good. And I guess I am also not as picky - I found Oblivion to be great - yeah there are a few issues, but I still thought it looked great graphically. And for me, game play is definetely more important. One of my favorites is bomberman live and the graphics on that are nothing special.

Regarding Crackdown - I don't recall how long it took, but it has lots of replayability. And the coop is great. Graphics are also great - I think the look is exactly what they were going for.

And I think the linup for 360 exclusives is pretty good in comparison. Both have a nice fall lineup. 360 has Mass Effect, Halo3 and PGR4 to name a few.

I think the titles I am most looking forward to are Mass Effect, Halo3 and Lair.