Bill Maher is 'Religulous'

[krazeyeyez]

did anyone else notice the very uncomfortable laugh of the stoner at the one part like he had no idea what maher said, and was on the verge of actually trippin off the bud, and seeing things

also i thought the part where the muslim guy told maher they allowed woman and that they have a CORNER was pretty humorous as well

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Oh, come on, you can't be serious. You can't actually believe that the movie was made with a bias favoring religion. Please, don't act like we're all a bunch of fools. Moore caricaturized all the gun advocates he interviewed for his anti-gun-rights propaganda piece, and Maher intentionally made fools of the religious people he interviewed. And you just said you haven't even seen the movie, so you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a fan of religion in any way, but I'm not obligated to support Bill Maher or Garofalo just because they're atheists like me, and I'm not going to become a hypocrite by engaging in the same bigotry that I dislike in religion. Us-against-them mentalities lead to harmful generalizations... speaking of which: yes, as a matter of fact, Garofalo did generalize tax protesters as racists, and called us all "teabaggers". Those were her own words, not some right-wing radio host's interpretation... apparently it's OK to make ugly homophobic or racist remarks if you're a professed liberal. She is an idiot.

You mean professed conservative right? Rush makes a living doing this......

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

Um, that's called gravity.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

People who don't understand evolution (biological or cosmological) have no concept of the scale of time over which it occurs.

Define 1 PL (person lifetime) = 100 years

Christ born 20 PL ago
Human history is 50 PL
Human civilisation is 120 PL
Modern humans first appeared about 500 PL ago

The dinosaurs disappeared 650,000 PL ago
Multi-cellular life appeared 7,000,000 PL ago
Life on earth began 37,000,000 PL ago
Earth formed 46,000,000 PL ago
The Sun formed 100,000,000 PL ago
The Universe is 140,000,000 PL old

I expect you're not prepared to open your mind to the possibility it is true.

Gary

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Oh, come on, you can't be serious. You can't actually believe that the movie was made with a bias favoring religion. Please, don't act like we're all a bunch of fools. Moore caricaturized all the gun advocates he interviewed for his anti-gun-rights propaganda piece, and Maher intentionally made fools of the religious people he interviewed. And you just said you haven't even seen the movie, so you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a fan of religion in any way, but I'm not obligated to support Bill Maher or Garofalo just because they're atheists like me, and I'm not going to become a hypocrite by engaging in the same bigotry that I dislike in religion. Us-against-them mentalities lead to harmful generalizations... speaking of which: yes, as a matter of fact, Garofalo did generalize tax protesters as racists, and called us all "teabaggers". Those were her own words, not some right-wing radio host's interpretation... apparently it's OK to make ugly homophobic or racist remarks if you're a professed liberal. She is an idiot.

I disagree with the bold. The interviewees did a good job of it all by themselves. They live their entires lives based on a belief that they dont even understand and couldnt even come close to articulating an explanation or even answer simple questions. The folks he interviewed were far less educated on the subject than Maher.

Some religious folks have researched their faith and beliefs to a great degree. They became "students" of their particular religion and after a great deal of study, arrive at the decision to believe. The folks Maher interviewed were simple followers, except for the obvious couple of Snake oil salesmen criminal preachers. Those guys are scary.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

I expect you're not prepared to open your mind to the possibility it is true.

Gary

even if its true, it proves nothing.

[pEgLeG]

One of the things that actually shocked me was: How irrational the head of the human genome project was. First he states that the bible was "written by people who personally eye witnessed Christ", then when that was shot down he changes up to "practically eye witnessed via interviewing eyewitnesses", then to "would you really expect anyone that eye witnessed him to make a written account of him?" and "wouldn't you expect there to be all kinds of contradictions in a true story of this magnitude?" I wonder if this guy would maybe intentionally hinder the project he leads for fear that it would contradict his irrational belief system. His behavior in the film would suggest that this is possible of him.

[toef]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Define 1 PL (person lifetime) = 100 years

...

The Universe is 140,000,000 PL old

Nice numbers. I agree that people, in general, have a hard time really understanding vast amounts of time, or large numbers. It's not a slight against anyone in particular... it's just something humans in general have problems with.

With the recession and bailouts going on, lots of huge numbers get thrown around, but a lot of people tend to not really understand how big these numbers are. A million is a lot, sure. A billion is more, sure... but how much more relative to a million? A trillion... that seems like a lot, but how much bigger than a billion is it?

A person can remember what they were doing 1 million seconds ago, because that was just under 12 days ago.

A person can't remember what they were doing 1 billion seconds ago, because it was 32 years ago (so some people weren't even alive).

Nobody in the world knows what was going on 1 trillion seconds ago, because that was 32,000 years ago.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by JHM

Because you will go to hell. I'm not even religious but that line isn't that great.

Thats what I find odd. Why would you be sent to hell, for trying to get to heaven?

[xtop]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Thats what I find odd. Why would you be sent to hell, for trying to get to heaven?

murder is a sin

[Zvi]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time, any other fans of 'Religulous' here??

I am, I was waiting for it to come out long time. I've rented dvd, donno if blu-ray is available tough. I'd definitely buy it on blu.

[toef]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Thats what I find odd. Why would you be sent to hell, for trying to get to heaven?

Well, I'm not sure if this applies, but according to Steve Miller, you've got to go through hell before you get to heaven.

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

As to evidence, you have actually presented none in support of your hypothesis.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Rob71

If you love your neighbor as yourself, you're not likely to hurt him are you. And since we are all neighbors... Now if you misinterpret that, well we all know what happens.

That is a wonderfull way for all mankind to think. And I try to live my life that way. However, I dont need a book, a man selling the book, the guilt and fear of hell, a reincarnated son of a virgin, a PROFITABLE industry to teach me common decency.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by Sammy

Um, that would be readily apparent in viruses such as swine flu.

So in order to acknowledge the swine flu, one must also acknowledge evolution. On that note, anyone that gets swine flu and does not believe in evolution should have to pray it away

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

Um, that would be readily apperent in viruses such as swine flu.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

So in order to acknowledge the swine flu, one must also acknowledge evolution. On that note, anyone that gets swine flu and does not believe in evolution should have to pray it away

the argument to evolution isn't that it doesn't exist tho

[redtornado]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Are you aware that you falsely label yourself? You are actually agnostic.

Not at all. I am merely open minded. I dont believe in the devil, hell, heaven, noahs ark, and the parting of the Red Sea. My definition of "god" could mean many things, it doesnt have to be a judeo-christian god. Fate or chance could be god for all we know.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by xtop

the argument to evolution isn't that it doesn't exist tho

That is an untrue statement. It is many people's argument that evolution is nonexistent.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

That is an untrue statement. It is many people's argument that evolution is nonexistent.

the argument is we didn't come from monkeys. not that there is no evolution.