HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread - Page 46 - Blu-ray Forum

chip75 · 06-08-2021, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

John Woo?

Auditor55 · 06-08-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

I can vouch for the calibration option. Although it's a tad bit more money spent, it's well worth it to get your TV calibrated. I got my LG C9 calibrated and have never had to worry about changing settings (other than Dynamic Tone Mapping which is more of a preference than anything). It's a great feeling just to sit back and enjoy watching movies or any content that I throw on my C9! Again, I highly recommend the calibration route. You won't regret it!!

How much did it cost you?

tama · 06-08-2021, 04:53 PM

Looks like John posted what might be his final impressions on OLED models this year. Both are great sets and you can't go wrong with either but he nudges towards Sony the same as Vincent and DeWayne (DNice).

"I took a 65A90J home from the store yesterday and after watching the LG as my main TV, i have to say the Sony does have a better picture overall in my opinion. Although it comes out of black a little too fast in some scenes, it's noticeably brighter in full screen SDR and the HDR and DV is as Vincent says, more impactful. It just looks more real. Since the set is new i just left the factory calibration, no "special" settings, no tweaks, Just set the brightness and motion and it looks great! To date i haven't found any A90J having a calibration issue from the factory. They are all pretty accurate from the factory. Calibration will make it perfect and if you prefer a different white point you can change that as well but i'm pretty surprised how consistent every set is so far.

As with all the 65 inch A90Js there is very slight vignetting and some slight magenta tint either on the left and or the right at 5% and lower but i have to say it's really hard to see it with content. I couldn't see it with some very dark content unless i paused the scene and started looking. But i have to say the 100% white is near perfect. Exceptionally clean and that's where you normally see tinting and some banding on fast motion content like with hockey. Also i feel if Vincent didn't point out the near black issue most wouldn't have noticed it since you really need a reference to see it. I feel the black crush on the LG is a far worse problem. Vincent's video did point out that the Sony did track closest to the reference monitor which is something we needed to know. Vincent's video revealed a lot of interesting information on these sets.

I was going to go with the G1 but it can't produce the same PQ in my opinion even though on paper i can calibrate it more accurately than the A90J. At the end of the day it's what our eyes see which determines what looks best to each of us."

PUsokrJosh305 · 06-08-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Auditor55

How much did it cost you?

It was about $300 extra from purchasing the TV. Of course I got a great deal on the C9 right before they stopped production on them. I know that still sounds like a lot, but it was well worth it. I don't have to worry about anything. I even got the settings from the calibrator/seller just in case the TV would reset on me. I'm very pleased with the results and again, I don't have to worry about anything. I can sit back and enjoy my TV!

Penton-Man · 06-08-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tama

Looks like John posted.....At the end of the day it's what our eyes see which determines what looks best to each of us."

John, the same perspective applies to this – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post18884868

I DO BLU · 06-08-2021, 07:45 PM

lgans316 · 06-08-2021, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Sony A80J BRAVIA XR OLED TV Unboxing + Picture Settings - YouTube

Wish he reviewed the 77 with glossy screen. The matte screen on this was shocking. It really made the picture look dull when I was doing a side by side of the same feed in a store nearby.

Better in Blu · 06-08-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

It was about $300 extra from purchasing the TV. Of course I got a great deal on the C9 right before they stopped production on them. I know that still sounds like a lot, but it was well worth it. I don't have to worry about anything. I even got the settings from the calibrator/seller just in case the TV would reset on me. I'm very pleased with the results and again, I don't have to worry about anything. I can sit back and enjoy my TV!

That is a good deal.Mine cost more, but D-Nice is worth it. My GX looks much better than it did OTB.

LordoftheRings · 06-08-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

You got it.

LordoftheRings · 06-08-2021, 09:00 PM

I know that with front projektors kalibrations are performed more often than with flat panel TVs, because of video deviations. What is a reasonable average time to professionally rekalibrate the piktures of flat panel OLED TVs?

I DO BLU · 06-09-2021, 07:41 PM

I DO BLU · 06-11-2021, 09:57 AM

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I DO BLU · 06-12-2021, 06:50 PM

volcomsocal · 06-12-2021, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by I DO BLU

LG G1 vs C1 Comparison Review - Is OLED Evo Worth It? - YouTube

At the 1:29 mark, you can clearly see that the G1 has pink hues on the screen, whereas the C1 does not. Is this a real issue that presents itself to normal viewing on the G1? I'm very interested in buying one, but seeing this is making me hesitant.

lgans316 · 06-13-2021, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by volcomsocal

At the 1:29 mark, you can clearly see that the G1 has pink hues on the screen, whereas the C1 does not. Is this a real issue that presents itself to normal viewing on the G1? I'm very interested in buying one, but seeing this is making me hesitant.

I think it's due to the factory where these are produced.

volcomsocal · 06-13-2021, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

I think it's due to the factory where these are produced.

I don't really understand.

unberechenbar · 06-13-2021, 09:25 PM

There are two factories where LG Display produces OLED panels: Guangzhou and Paju. The EVO panels for the G1 are produced in the Guangzhou factory while panels for the C1 can come from either Guangzhou or Paju. Hence if you have a C1 with a panel from the Guangzhou factory you can go into the service menu and change the EDID to that of a G1 to get increased brightness.

volcomsocal · 06-14-2021, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by unberechenbar

There are two factories where LG Display produces OLED panels: Guangzhou and Paju. The EVO panels for the G1 are produced in the Guangzhou factory while panels for the C1 can come from either Guangzhou or Paju. Hence if you have a C1 with a panel from the Guangzhou factory you can go into the service menu and change the EDID to that of a G1 to get increased brightness.

That's good to know. But that doesn't answer why the G1 has a pink tint to it and the C1 doesn't. Why should any panel have a pink tint to it, regardless of where its made? Isn't that an issue?

Pagey123 · 06-14-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by volcomsocal

That's good to know. But that doesn't answer why the G1 has a pink tint to it and the C1 doesn't. Why should any panel have a pink tint to it, regardless of where its made? Isn't that an issue?

LG Display made a design/manufacturing change to the panels with the addition of a "green layer". It's my understanding that this new addition can result in a pinkish tint, but only when viewed off angle. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

06-08-2021, 04:53 PM	#903
tama Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:San Jose, CA 4K collection:685 Blu-ray collection:1229	Looks like John posted what might be his final impressions on OLED models this year. Both are great sets and you can't go wrong with either but he nudges towards Sony the same as Vincent and DeWayne (DNice). "I took a 65A90J home from the store yesterday and after watching the LG as my main TV, i have to say the Sony does have a better picture overall in my opinion. Although it comes out of black a little too fast in some scenes, it's noticeably brighter in full screen SDR and the HDR and DV is as Vincent says, more impactful. It just looks more real. Since the set is new i just left the factory calibration, no "special" settings, no tweaks, Just set the brightness and motion and it looks great! To date i haven't found any A90J having a calibration issue from the factory. They are all pretty accurate from the factory. Calibration will make it perfect and if you prefer a different white point you can change that as well but i'm pretty surprised how consistent every set is so far. As with all the 65 inch A90Js there is very slight vignetting and some slight magenta tint either on the left and or the right at 5% and lower but i have to say it's really hard to see it with content. I couldn't see it with some very dark content unless i paused the scene and started looking. But i have to say the 100% white is near perfect. Exceptionally clean and that's where you normally see tinting and some banding on fast motion content like with hockey. Also i feel if Vincent didn't point out the near black issue most wouldn't have noticed it since you really need a reference to see it. I feel the black crush on the LG is a far worse problem. Vincent's video did point out that the Sony did track closest to the reference monitor which is something we needed to know. Vincent's video revealed a lot of interesting information on these sets. I was going to go with the G1 but it can't produce the same PQ in my opinion even though on paper i can calibrate it more accurately than the A90J. At the end of the day it's what our eyes see which determines what looks best to each of us."

06-08-2021, 09:00 PM	#910
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	I know that with front projektors kalibrations are performed more often than with flat panel TVs, because of video deviations. What is a reasonable average time to professionally rekalibrate the piktures of flat panel OLED TVs?

06-13-2021, 09:25 PM	#918
unberechenbar Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:May 2021 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:350 Blu-ray collection:350 Blu-ray reviews: 343 Trading Score:3	There are two factories where LG Display produces OLED panels: Guangzhou and Paju. The EVO panels for the G1 are produced in the Guangzhou factory while panels for the C1 can come from either Guangzhou or Paju. Hence if you have a C1 with a panel from the Guangzhou factory you can go into the service menu and change the EDID to that of a G1 to get increased brightness.

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