Pioneer Elite question - Blu-ray Forum

jlinclk · 05-12-2009, 07:34 PM

I just got my Pro-111FD a few weeks ago. One thing I've noticed is that when the TV is on, but there is no video signal (e.g. my PS3 is off, or during a menu change), the screen is not uniformly black, but rather certain areas are splotchy ... like a dark cloudy night. Once I power on my PS3 and watch a movie in 2.40:1 aspect ratio, the black bars are uniformly black.

I was only able to notice this when I powered on my TV in the dark, but hadn't turn on the PS3.

I'm just wondering if this is normal, and will it eventually go away? It doesn't affect my viewing, but I want to make sure that I don't have a defective TV.

Rblu-Dblu · 05-12-2009, 07:38 PM

This will probably go away after the first 200 hours.

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 07:41 PM

Does it do that every time you turn it on?

jlinclk · 05-12-2009, 07:44 PM

yes

Trix · 05-12-2009, 07:54 PM

I've noticed similar patterns on my 5020 every once in a while, but not every time I turn it on. The first time it happened, I was kinda scared, so I ran the scrolling white bar, but couldn't reproduce it there either.

My best guess it that it has to do with heat dispersion when the TV first turns on; the parts that are cooler will appear darker, and vice versa, until a feed is sent to the panel to display proper black.

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 08:01 PM

It's not a problem.

Trix · 05-12-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

It's not a problem.

Sonny, how many times in 20 minutes did you have time to test that? Haha....complete devotion there!

jlinclk · 05-12-2009, 08:05 PM

can you provide an explanation for the cause of the splotchiness?

Rblu-Dblu · 05-12-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trix

Sonny, how many times in 20 minutes did you have time to test that? Haha....complete devotion there!

You wouldve thought it takes longer than 20 minutes for him to test it on all 26 of his Kuro's. You're averaging a test in under a minute!!

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 08:29 PM

LMAO!!! I don't need to test it. I know what he's talking about!

Trix · 05-12-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

LMAO!!! I don't need to test it. I know what he's talking about!

Is my explanation anywhere near what's going on then? Because now I want to know too!

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 09:01 PM

^^^ yes your right on the money! Sorry I didn't see the Q. by the OP about breaking it down.

It's the the display not warmed up yet, which takes a few seconds. It should not do it if you have been watching/using the display & turn it off then right back on, cause the "screen" is still warmed up. If the picture is blotchey when it's in use then you have a problem.

Nice of everyone to jump all over me, thanks...

Trix · 05-12-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

Nice of everyone to jump all over me, thanks...

You're our beloved Pioneer guru!

The long and short of it, is that it is in no way harmful, or a defect. It simply has to do with screen temperature. So, everyone now go back to gawking at your Pio's and loving them so tenderly.

jlinclk · 05-12-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

^^^ yes your right on the money! Sorry I didn't see the Q. by the OP about breaking it down.

It's the the display not warmed up yet, which takes a few seconds. It should not do it if you have been watching/using the display & turn it off then right back on, cause the "screen" is still warmed up. If the picture is blotchey when it's in use then you have a problem.

Nice of everyone to jump all over me, thanks...

Just for clarification, the splotchiness is visible no matter how long the TV is on, but ONLY when there is no input source, or during menu changes.

It is not visible during actual movie playing.

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 11:12 PM

It should "clear" within a few seconds, but if the picture is fine your 111FD is fine. When your watching a movie with a black back ground do you see any of the blotchey-ness like you do when you have NO signal? If not your good to go.

Rblu-Dblu · 05-12-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

^^^
Nice of everyone to jump all over me, thanks...

We're just jealous you bought all of the remaining Pioneer stock.

Sonny · 05-12-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rblu-Dblu

We're just jealous you bought all of the remaining Pioneer stock.

I was being sarcastic...it just never comes out right over the inter-webs!

Porfie · 05-12-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jlinclk

I just got my Pro-111FD a few weeks ago. One thing I've noticed is that when the TV is on, but there is no video signal (e.g. my PS3 is off, or during a menu change), the screen is not uniformly black, but rather certain areas are splotchy ... like a dark cloudy night. Once I power on my PS3 and watch a movie in 2.40:1 aspect ratio, the black bars are uniformly black.

I was only able to notice this when I powered on my TV in the dark, but hadn't turn on the PS3.

I'm just wondering if this is normal, and will it eventually go away? It doesn't affect my viewing, but I want to make sure that I don't have a defective TV.

Mine does that also but dissapeares after a few seconds. I called pioneer and they did say it's the panel warming up. It's normal and sometimes effects people in higher altitudes more. I live in Colorado so that could be why. When i asked The pioneer rep if I needed to do a break in process he said it is not needed but he did say I should avoid the performance mode for the first 200 hours and that would be a good enough break in. Of course I had all ready broken my TV in. So it's just normal for these tvs as long as it goes away right away.

Rblu-Dblu · 05-12-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Porfie

Mine does that also but dissapeares after a few seconds. I called pioneer and they did say it's the panel warming up. It's normal and sometimes effects people in higher altitudes more. I live in Colorado so that could be why. When i asked The pioneer rep if I needed to do a break in process he said it is not needed but he did say I should avoid the performance mode for the first 200 hours and that would be a good enough break in. Of course I had all ready broken my TV in. So it's just normal for these tvs as long as it goes away right away.

He didnt say anything about avoiding black bars for a while? Im just curious because my new Kuro is going on the wall tomorrow and I want to avoid all possible risks. Thanks

wafi · 05-13-2009, 12:24 AM

And our love for Sonny hijacks the thread

Bud its time you changed your "Blu-ray Guru" to "Kuro Guru"...I'm serious!

05-12-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
jlinclk Junior Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:60	Pioneer Elite question I just got my Pro-111FD a few weeks ago. One thing I've noticed is that when the TV is on, but there is no video signal (e.g. my PS3 is off, or during a menu change), the screen is not uniformly black, but rather certain areas are splotchy ... like a dark cloudy night. Once I power on my PS3 and watch a movie in 2.40:1 aspect ratio, the black bars are uniformly black. I was only able to notice this when I powered on my TV in the dark, but hadn't turn on the PS3. I'm just wondering if this is normal, and will it eventually go away? It doesn't affect my viewing, but I want to make sure that I don't have a defective TV.

05-12-2009, 07:54 PM	#5
Trix Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Waterloo, ON, Canada Blu-ray collection:114	I've noticed similar patterns on my 5020 every once in a while, but not every time I turn it on. The first time it happened, I was kinda scared, so I ran the scrolling white bar, but couldn't reproduce it there either. My best guess it that it has to do with heat dispersion when the TV first turns on; the parts that are cooler will appear darker, and vice versa, until a feed is sent to the panel to display proper black. Last edited by Trix; 05-12-2009 at 07:57 PM.

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05-12-2009, 07:38 PM	#2
Rblu-Dblu Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Trapped on the Death Star 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:483 Trading Score:12	This will probably go away after the first 200 hours.

05-12-2009, 07:41 PM	#3
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	Does it do that every time you turn it on?

05-12-2009, 07:44 PM	#4
jlinclk Junior Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:60	yes

05-12-2009, 08:01 PM	#6
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	It's not a problem.

05-12-2009, 08:05 PM	#8
jlinclk Junior Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:60	can you provide an explanation for the cause of the splotchiness?

05-12-2009, 08:29 PM	#10
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	LMAO!!! I don't need to test it. I know what he's talking about!

05-12-2009, 09:01 PM	#12
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	^^^ yes your right on the money! Sorry I didn't see the Q. by the OP about breaking it down. It's the the display not warmed up yet, which takes a few seconds. It should not do it if you have been watching/using the display & turn it off then right back on, cause the "screen" is still warmed up. If the picture is blotchey when it's in use then you have a problem. Nice of everyone to jump all over me, thanks...

05-12-2009, 11:12 PM	#15
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	It should "clear" within a few seconds, but if the picture is fine your 111FD is fine. When your watching a movie with a black back ground do you see any of the blotchey-ness like you do when you have NO signal? If not your good to go.

05-13-2009, 12:24 AM	#20
wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	And our love for Sonny hijacks the thread Bud its time you changed your "Blu-ray Guru" to "Kuro Guru"...I'm serious!

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