Panasonic: 'Blu-ray will win, be certain' - Blu-ray Forum

Tekman · 08-30-2007, 04:16 PM

Panasonic has made clear its stance in the high-definition war. "Blu-Ray will succeed to become the predominant high-definition format, be certain," Joachim Reinhart, chief operating officer and president of Panasonic Europe, told journalists at a press conference at IFA 2007 in Berlin this afternoon.

stockstar1138 · 08-30-2007, 04:22 PM

correct me if im wrong, but panasonic royalties from BD than Sony does. They are really in this.

JTK · 08-30-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekman

Panasonic has made clear its stance in the high-definition war. "Blu-Ray will succeed to become the predominant high-definition format, be certain," Joachim Reinhart, chief operating officer and president of Panasonic Europe, told journalists at a press conference at IFA 2007 in Berlin this afternoon.

Agreed. Now make it happen.

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

correct me if im wrong, but panasonic royalties from BD than Sony does. They are really in this.

Arguably about equal, at least, but Sony hating HD-DVD zealots like to ignore pesky facts like these.

dialog_gvf · 08-30-2007, 04:36 PM

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Arguably about equal, at least, but Sony hating HD-DVD zealots like to ignore pesky facts like these.

It would start to eliminate a lot of choice if they hated all the major IP owners in Blu-ray.

"Thank goodness Venturer is out there"

mcy_999 · 08-30-2007, 06:01 PM

http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertain...leid=438219833

CptGreedle · 08-30-2007, 06:04 PM

Sweet!

dialog_gvf · 08-30-2007, 06:06 PM

It would mean something if it was coming from a big and successful CE that sells a lot of HDTV.

Oh wait ...

David Forbes · 08-30-2007, 06:24 PM

I would perfer less sabre-rattling and more concrete strategy, to be honest.

CptGreedle · 08-30-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by David Forbes

I would perfer less sabre-rattling and more concrete strategy, to be honest.

Yes, but to say something so assuredly is showing how confident they are in the format and gives people supporting Blu-ray some assurance that it will not fall-out with some of the latest developments with HD-DVD (i.e. Paramount).

David Forbes · 08-30-2007, 07:15 PM

Greedle, while I don't disagree, this harkens back to the "victory" declaration made by the BDA earlier in the year, which has been a rallying cry for HD-DVD fans.

And again, a declaration without a clear strategy just looks foolish at this point, not confident. IMHO.

TauRus · 08-30-2007, 07:33 PM

I see your point David, but on the other hand, a statement like this coming from Panasonic, is a very encouraging message showing they are fully committed to the technology and do have formidable strategy behind bold statements.

JTK · 08-30-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

It would mean something if it was coming from a big and successful CE that sells a lot of HDTV.

Oh wait ...

Heh, indeed.

David Forbes · 08-30-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TauRus

I see your point David, but on the other hand, a statement like this coming from Panasonic, is a very encouraging message showing they are fully committed to the technology and do have formidable strategy behind bold statements.

Again, I just feel a statement of commitment to Blu-ray would have been preferable to yet another declaration of victory, which at this point in time isn't really certain (depending on how you want to define "victory").

I'm not going to keep arguing the point, I just think the choice of words was poor.

glenn22 · 08-30-2007, 07:57 PM

I think this is encouraging. I know that the format war is over, but Panasonic saying this just re-confirms their belief in Blu-ray.

SKRUhddvd · 08-30-2007, 08:04 PM

all of you make good solid points, but remember, this is basically a trade show. at shows like this you must motivate the troops. a general is not going to stand before his troops and kick at the dirt and say " boys i sure hope we win the battle today" he's gonna say "get the F**K out there and kick their a$$).

CptGreedle · 08-30-2007, 08:07 PM

Well I am in agreement with them that Blu-ray will win in the end, but I don't think it will be that easy. Since Paramount so easily chose HD-DVD over Blu-ray, it is possible other unexpected things may happen. Even now, with the latest reports supporting Blu-ray, I wonder that the HD-DVD camp is doing.
I believe that they are not truly as committed to the HD-DVD format as the BDA is to Blu-ray. If HD-DVD fails, Paramount and Universal will start releasing Blu-ray, Toshiba will start making BD players, Microsoft will have to take it like a man (or monster in their case) and accept (once again) that they don't rule the world. If Blu-ray fails, many companies will be in far more serious trouble, such as Sony and Panasonic, that have a lot riding on this technology.
It is because they are so dedicated that I am sure they will win over the inferior HD-DVD.

I do wish they'd tell us their strategy to fight the giant M$ and their HD-DUD toy, but at least they show us their confidence in the technology (while the HD-DVD supporters are often heard saying how their players will still be useful as DVD players if HD-DVD dies... I wonder).

Maxell · 08-30-2007, 08:08 PM

Sweet, another company that is pledged all the way blu!

atdm71 · 08-30-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David Forbes

And again, a declaration without a clear strategy just looks foolish at this point, not confident. IMHO.

Better to unveil the strategy? Would have to be pretty high level which usually doesn't amount to anything noteworthy. Few are on record with any meaty details of their strategy.

I think his comment was fine. For Blu-ray supporters, it's nice to see a level of confidence and conviction still circling the executive rings of major electronics manufacturers. A lot of people are fearing a perpetuation of combo format players following Paramount's recent announcement, so I see the comment as being rather timely. Blu still has a lock on it, according to Panasonic, and that's not fun for HD DVD supporters to continue reading - many of whom probably own Panasonic TVs...

In short, these comments are influential - certainly more so than foolish. (respectfully, IMHO

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JAGUAR1977 · 08-30-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David Forbes

Again, I just feel a statement of commitment to Blu-ray would have been preferable to yet another declaration of victory, which at this point in time isn't really certain (depending on how you want to define "victory").

I'm not going to keep arguing the point, I just think the choice of words was poor.

Theres only a format war in the US.

HD-DVD is on it's way out in Europe and dead in Japan/Australia.

HD-DVD isn't even entering some smaller markets.

glenn22 · 08-30-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Theres only a format war in the US.

HD-DVD is on it's way out in Europe and dead in Japan/Australia.

HD-DVD isn't even entering some smaller markets.

Exactly. Us people in North America tend to forget about the rest of the world, which is OVERWHELMINGLY in support of Blu-ray.

08-30-2007, 04:16 PM	#1
Tekman Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Panasonic: 'Blu-ray will win, be certain' Panasonic has made clear its stance in the high-definition war. "Blu-Ray will succeed to become the predominant high-definition format, be certain," Joachim Reinhart, chief operating officer and president of Panasonic Europe, told journalists at a press conference at IFA 2007 in Berlin this afternoon.

08-30-2007, 06:01 PM	#5
mcy_999 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	Panasonic says: http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertain...leid=438219833

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08-30-2007, 04:22 PM	#2
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	correct me if im wrong, but panasonic royalties from BD than Sony does. They are really in this.

08-30-2007, 06:04 PM	#6
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Sweet!

08-30-2007, 06:06 PM	#7
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	It would mean something if it was coming from a big and successful CE that sells a lot of HDTV. Oh wait ...

08-30-2007, 06:24 PM	#8
David Forbes Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10	I would perfer less sabre-rattling and more concrete strategy, to be honest.

08-30-2007, 07:15 PM	#10
David Forbes Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10	Greedle, while I don't disagree, this harkens back to the "victory" declaration made by the BDA earlier in the year, which has been a rallying cry for HD-DVD fans. And again, a declaration without a clear strategy just looks foolish at this point, not confident. IMHO.

08-30-2007, 07:33 PM	#11
TauRus Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Chicago NW burbs	I see your point David, but on the other hand, a statement like this coming from Panasonic, is a very encouraging message showing they are fully committed to the technology and do have formidable strategy behind bold statements.

08-30-2007, 07:57 PM	#14
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	I think this is encouraging. I know that the format war is over, but Panasonic saying this just re-confirms their belief in Blu-ray.

08-30-2007, 08:04 PM	#15
SKRUhddvd Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:colorado	all of you make good solid points, but remember, this is basically a trade show. at shows like this you must motivate the troops. a general is not going to stand before his troops and kick at the dirt and say " boys i sure hope we win the battle today" he's gonna say "get the F**K out there and kick their a$$).

08-30-2007, 08:07 PM	#16
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Well I am in agreement with them that Blu-ray will win in the end, but I don't think it will be that easy. Since Paramount so easily chose HD-DVD over Blu-ray, it is possible other unexpected things may happen. Even now, with the latest reports supporting Blu-ray, I wonder that the HD-DVD camp is doing. I believe that they are not truly as committed to the HD-DVD format as the BDA is to Blu-ray. If HD-DVD fails, Paramount and Universal will start releasing Blu-ray, Toshiba will start making BD players, Microsoft will have to take it like a man (or monster in their case) and accept (once again) that they don't rule the world. If Blu-ray fails, many companies will be in far more serious trouble, such as Sony and Panasonic, that have a lot riding on this technology. It is because they are so dedicated that I am sure they will win over the inferior HD-DVD. I do wish they'd tell us their strategy to fight the giant M$ and their HD-DUD toy, but at least they show us their confidence in the technology (while the HD-DVD supporters are often heard saying how their players will still be useful as DVD players if HD-DVD dies... I wonder).

08-30-2007, 08:08 PM	#17
Maxell Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007	Sweet, another company that is pledged all the way blu!

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