Which is better - MCU or DCEU? - Blu-ray Forum

BluBonnet · 08-23-2021, 05:42 AM

There seems to be a lot of acrimonious comments regarding MCU vs DCEU in the forums sometimes.

Contrary to what some would have you believe, I don't consider myself as automatically liking one better than the other. Both have made movies I have enjoyed very much. Among my personal favourites of the last couple of years are BOP, WW84, and BW. I thought they were all phenomenal.

I grew up liking mostly the DC superheroes, I also liked Spidey and the Fantastic Four, but my real favourites were all with the Super Friends. And also Plastic Man.

So, do you have a particular preference for one or the other?

mwynn · 08-23-2021, 05:59 AM

First thought is. Did I enjoy the movie. Yes or no. Like what you like. Yet until I see someone go on a anti warner or sony rant. Things will never be even here.

BluBonnet · 08-23-2021, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

First thought is. Did I enjoy the movie. Yes or no. Like what you like.

That's how I feel about it, too.

mwynn · 08-23-2021, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BluBonnet

That's how I feel about it, too.

Also one studio is doing it the way that i love about comics.

Jennifer Lawrence Fan · 08-23-2021, 06:10 AM

I like both.

I grew up on the live action batman movies as well as the animated series. But also watched the Spider-man animated series too.

BluBonnet · 08-23-2021, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mwynn

Also one studio is doing it the way that i love about comics.

Gizz · 08-23-2021, 07:22 AM

I like both of them.

Cruel Angel · 08-23-2021, 09:05 AM

Mcu.

JediJones77 · 08-23-2021, 11:20 AM

Definitely like movies from both, but I'll vote DCEU, because at this point there are movies I'm not interested in seeing from MCU. They've screwed up Spider-Man more than DCEU has messed up any character, and that's a very significant character to get wrong. I'm still interested in seeing all the upcoming DCEU movies. DCEU got Wonder Woman exactly right in a perfect movie, which is the greatest contribution either universe has made to comic book film history. That became one of the most important comic book films along with Superman: The Movie, Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins. MCU films, even when they get the original comic book details right, usually aren't as well-rounded, tonally consistent and emotionally involving as Wonder Woman was.

MCU's films by the Russos are easily their best, and Favreau's two were also very solid, but most of the rest suffer from blandness or elements which just don't come to life on the screen. The DCEU has more stylized direction which makes the films more distinctive and memorable. Their biggest mistakes have been from the studio interference on JL and Suicide Squad, one of which has been corrected. It's easy to imagine a completely independent film from all the DCEU directors being interesting, while the Russos, Favreau and Gunn are the only ones of the MCU who give that sense of strong, visionary direction.

DCEU has also been willing to go darker, more intense and have more adult-geared content, while the MCU keeps hitting a ceiling where the movies can't have anything in them that the most conservative parents wouldn't want their 8-year-old to see. I think the DCEU attitude is much better for comic book movies overall, because that represents the evolution in maturity comic books themselves went through quite a long time ago in the 1980s. Even Superman II in 1980 showed Superman in bed with Lois. I don't think the MCU has even had one implied sex scene. The DCEU is also willing to do R-rated movies.

Finally, the DCEU hasn't had Taika Waititi direct a movie yet. His attitude is so misplaced and ill-suited for the superhero genre, that he directed the worst superhero movie I've ever seen, Thor: Ragnarok. It's a shabbily constructed film with a fakey, unconvincing look that stands up and proudly spits all over the dignity of superhero history and mythology.

Ultimately, both studios seem to be getting worse at this point. Which is why I think it would be a good time for another studio to seriously start adapting the Valiant/Gold Key comics into a new universe. Solar, Turok, Magnus, X-O Manowar, Harbinger, etc. Yes, they tried Bloodshot, but, boy, it was the wrong character to start with, and they have to get real A-list talent behind making the films. Sony or Paramount ought to get the Russos or Snyder to head up adapting that universe to film.

mwynn · 08-23-2021, 11:29 AM

Great googly moogly.

DR Herbert West · 08-23-2021, 11:43 AM

I prefer the DCEU.

zen007 · 08-23-2021, 01:07 PM

No preference. MCU, I can sit through most of its movies but move on without thinking much about them afterwards. DCEU can be a mixed bag but I enjoyed Batman (1989), the Nolan trilogy, and WW (2017) most among comic book films so thoughts about these films linger on.

Canada · 08-23-2021, 01:10 PM

MCU it has a better RBI ratio

1924 · 08-23-2021, 01:11 PM

MCU is overall better however I definitely find a lot of individual DCEU films better than the majority of Marvel films

kylor · 08-23-2021, 05:21 PM

I don't really have a preference. I judge movies individually on their own merits, and not a bunch of movies grouped together and labelled. Plus I love movies from DC Comics and from Marvel Comics, both MCU and non-MCU.

Erzengel · 08-23-2021, 05:48 PM

When I read comics in the 90s, it was X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman and the JL. If you told me that cinematic live action comic book movies would explode in the 2000s, I would have listed any of one of the previously listed movies as being easily some of the biggest. I wasn't an Avengers, Iron Man fan. (Side note I became more of a Captain America fan during the Brubaker, Marvel Ultimate Alliance game) To say that JL wasn't one would have confused young me to the core. What the MCU did without it's heavy hitters in 2008 (Spider-Man, X-Men, FF), is nothing short of amazing.

However, to say that 24 vs. 10 isn't exactly a fair comparison but personally I found that the MCU has hit the right geek moments with me and heavily invested you in it's characters, something the DCEU has struggled with and you can blame that on WB.

BluBonnet · 08-23-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Erzengel

However, to say that 24 vs. 10 isn't exactly a fair comparison but personally I found that the MCU has hit the right geek moments with me and heavily invested you in it's characters, something the DCEU has struggled with and you can blame that on WB.

Alan T · 08-23-2021, 09:11 PM

Marvel

Michael24 · 08-23-2021, 09:26 PM

I prefer the DCEU.

drush9999 · 08-25-2021, 09:22 PM

I've always liked Batman since before the 1989 movie, so always had a preference for DC. The MCU for me is bloated and boring for the most part, though there are some excellent entries. I like the Snyder films in the DCEU and the first Wonder Woman, but the rest mostly suck, and doesn't feel connected anymore with the last few entries. My faith in DC was restored with Joker and hopefully The Batman is good. So Warner/DC are better off forgetting any kind of universe IMO.
So overall the DCEU has it for it's earlier entries at least.

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08-23-2021, 05:42 AM	#1
BluBonnet Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Trading Score:1	Which is better - MCU or DCEU? There seems to be a lot of acrimonious comments regarding MCU vs DCEU in the forums sometimes. Contrary to what some would have you believe, I don't consider myself as automatically liking one better than the other. Both have made movies I have enjoyed very much. Among my personal favourites of the last couple of years are BOP, WW84, and BW. I thought they were all phenomenal. I grew up liking mostly the DC superheroes, I also liked Spidey and the Fantastic Four, but my real favourites were all with the Super Friends. And also Plastic Man. So, do you have a particular preference for one or the other?

08-23-2021, 05:59 AM	#2
mwynn Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:2	First thought is. Did I enjoy the movie. Yes or no. Like what you like. Yet until I see someone go on a anti warner or sony rant. Things will never be even here.

08-23-2021, 06:10 AM	#5
Jennifer Lawrence Fan Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:413 Blu-ray collection:2750 DVD collection:1312 MA collection:305 Digital collection:495 iTunes collection:284 Trading Score:721	I like both. I grew up on the live action batman movies as well as the animated series. But also watched the Spider-man animated series too.

08-23-2021, 07:22 AM	#7
Gizz Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2012 Location:England Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:420 Blu-ray collection:1828 DVD collection:808 Digital collection:10 iTunes collection:340 Prime collection:151	I like both of them.

08-23-2021, 09:05 AM	#8
Cruel Angel Blu-ray Prince Member since:Nov 2009 Location:San Antonio TX 4K collection:315 Blu-ray collection:1187 DVD collection:281	Mcu.

08-23-2021, 11:20 AM	#9
JediJones77 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:East PA Trading Score:4	Definitely like movies from both, but I'll vote DCEU, because at this point there are movies I'm not interested in seeing from MCU. They've screwed up Spider-Man more than DCEU has messed up any character, and that's a very significant character to get wrong. I'm still interested in seeing all the upcoming DCEU movies. DCEU got Wonder Woman exactly right in a perfect movie, which is the greatest contribution either universe has made to comic book film history. That became one of the most important comic book films along with Superman: The Movie, Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins. MCU films, even when they get the original comic book details right, usually aren't as well-rounded, tonally consistent and emotionally involving as Wonder Woman was. MCU's films by the Russos are easily their best, and Favreau's two were also very solid, but most of the rest suffer from blandness or elements which just don't come to life on the screen. The DCEU has more stylized direction which makes the films more distinctive and memorable. Their biggest mistakes have been from the studio interference on JL and Suicide Squad, one of which has been corrected. It's easy to imagine a completely independent film from all the DCEU directors being interesting, while the Russos, Favreau and Gunn are the only ones of the MCU who give that sense of strong, visionary direction. DCEU has also been willing to go darker, more intense and have more adult-geared content, while the MCU keeps hitting a ceiling where the movies can't have anything in them that the most conservative parents wouldn't want their 8-year-old to see. I think the DCEU attitude is much better for comic book movies overall, because that represents the evolution in maturity comic books themselves went through quite a long time ago in the 1980s. Even Superman II in 1980 showed Superman in bed with Lois. I don't think the MCU has even had one implied sex scene. The DCEU is also willing to do R-rated movies. Finally, the DCEU hasn't had Taika Waititi direct a movie yet. His attitude is so misplaced and ill-suited for the superhero genre, that he directed the worst superhero movie I've ever seen, Thor: Ragnarok. It's a shabbily constructed film with a fakey, unconvincing look that stands up and proudly spits all over the dignity of superhero history and mythology. Ultimately, both studios seem to be getting worse at this point. Which is why I think it would be a good time for another studio to seriously start adapting the Valiant/Gold Key comics into a new universe. Solar, Turok, Magnus, X-O Manowar, Harbinger, etc. Yes, they tried Bloodshot, but, boy, it was the wrong character to start with, and they have to get real A-list talent behind making the films. Sony or Paramount ought to get the Russos or Snyder to head up adapting that universe to film.

08-23-2021, 11:29 AM	#10
mwynn Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:2	Great googly moogly.

08-23-2021, 11:43 AM	#11
DR Herbert West Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2018 Location:Arkham, MA Trading Score:8	I prefer the DCEU.

08-23-2021, 01:07 PM	#12
zen007 Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 Location:Canada Trading Score:1	No preference. MCU, I can sit through most of its movies but move on without thinking much about them afterwards. DCEU can be a mixed bag but I enjoyed Batman (1989), the Nolan trilogy, and WW (2017) most among comic book films so thoughts about these films linger on.

08-23-2021, 01:10 PM	#13
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	MCU it has a better RBI ratio

08-23-2021, 01:11 PM	#14
1924 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2014	MCU is overall better however I definitely find a lot of individual DCEU films better than the majority of Marvel films

08-23-2021, 05:21 PM	#15
kylor Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2015 Location:The past.. or the future. 4K collection:696 Blu-ray collection:7101 DVD collection:620 MA collection:1030 Digital collection:2058 Trading Score:3	I don't really have a preference. I judge movies individually on their own merits, and not a bunch of movies grouped together and labelled. Plus I love movies from DC Comics and from Marvel Comics, both MCU and non-MCU.

08-23-2021, 05:48 PM	#16
Erzengel Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:160 DVD collection:134 iTunes collection:7 Trading Score:1	When I read comics in the 90s, it was X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman and the JL. If you told me that cinematic live action comic book movies would explode in the 2000s, I would have listed any of one of the previously listed movies as being easily some of the biggest. I wasn't an Avengers, Iron Man fan. (Side note I became more of a Captain America fan during the Brubaker, Marvel Ultimate Alliance game) To say that JL wasn't one would have confused young me to the core. What the MCU did without it's heavy hitters in 2008 (Spider-Man, X-Men, FF), is nothing short of amazing. However, to say that 24 vs. 10 isn't exactly a fair comparison but personally I found that the MCU has hit the right geek moments with me and heavily invested you in it's characters, something the DCEU has struggled with and you can blame that on WB.

08-23-2021, 09:11 PM	#18
Alan T Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2016 Location:Southern California 4K collection:299 Blu-ray collection:533 DVD collection:16	Marvel

08-23-2021, 09:26 PM	#19
Michael24 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:California 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:164 Trading Score:2	I prefer the DCEU.

08-25-2021, 09:22 PM	#20
drush9999 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Sutton Coldfield, England 4K collection:566 Blu-ray collection:6092 DVD collection:488 Trading Score:1	I've always liked Batman since before the 1989 movie, so always had a preference for DC. The MCU for me is bloated and boring for the most part, though there are some excellent entries. I like the Snyder films in the DCEU and the first Wonder Woman, but the rest mostly suck, and doesn't feel connected anymore with the last few entries. My faith in DC was restored with Joker and hopefully The Batman is good. So Warner/DC are better off forgetting any kind of universe IMO. So overall the DCEU has it for it's earlier entries at least.

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