Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021)

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Wildcat2000

I think it’ll do good. Just not quite as good if there wasn’t a pandemic.

People liked acting as though GB’16 ruined any chance of a proper follow up happening but that’s just not the case for any series. Bad or unfavorable installments (reboot or sequel) do not wipeout popular franchises.

People just like exaggerating and complaining. This was officially announced just 2 years after GB’16. It’s funny to think it took 20+ years just to get another GB movie but a sequel only a couple of years after all that controversy.

I definitely consider Afterlife GB3 because it is. Of course we all preferred it happen sooner so Harold Ramis could be in it but it is Ghostbusters 3. It’s explicitly in continuity with the original 2. Not just a new movie where they acknowledge the old ones.

Even if Harold Ramis was still alive nobody can say what part 3 would/should have been. It most likely would have been about a new generation team anyway.

I’m sure there will still be naysayers claiming stupid things like...not the right direction or leave GB alone for reasons. Literally everything has haters.

If it underperforms, there will be plenty of people, many of them who are proclaiming that this will succeed because they are doing it right (how they would know that is a mystery), will comb through it and point out everything that isn't a direct reference to the 80's films and declare that it failed for shoehorning in a bunch of crap that should be nowhere near a proper GBs film. Mark my words.

[Wildcat2000]

Originally Posted by Martoto

If it underperforms, there will be plenty of people, many of them who are proclaiming that this will succeed because they are doing it right (how they would know that is a mystery), will comb through it and point out everything that isn't a direct reference to the 80's films and declare that it failed for shoehorning in a bunch of crap that should be nowhere near a proper GBs film. Mark my words.

Ya that’s what I was saying in my last sentence. Some are already doing that and claiming it’s not a “proper” GB movie because of so-and-so.

Having nothing to do with GB’16 a lot people in this fan base are very pretentious. I’ve read and been in some of these discussions as far back as like 2006. Over GB being untouchable outside of the 80s and early 90s I guess.

[JediJones77]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Seems to be pretty much the opposite of what some fans are claiming it is in anticipation though. They seem to think it's Ghostbusters 3. It most definitely is not. It's one of those reboots they make

It is not a reboot. It's a sequel. Read this article if you're confused about the definition of the terms:

https://www.vox.com/2015/9/16/933712...s-reimaginings

"A reboot resets the continuity of an established film series"

"The term reboot should be reserved for film properties that have extended beyond a single movie and have thus established a continuity that the subsequent reboot throws out in favor of a new status quo."

Just hilarious how you bash fans who are enthusiastic about this film, after we've seen them being bashed for criticizing GB2016. The fans suck whether they're negative or positive now? Jerkwad studio executives are the problem, not the fans, for crying out loud. Fans are the lifeblood of any series.

This sequel is just like Tron: Legacy, a movie Tron fans thought was quite well-conceived and respectful to the original. A younger generation is picking up the technology from their elders.

Originally Posted by BluCollector13

Also, skimming back a few pages, all of the vitriol over the 2016 film constantly reminds me why it's difficult to muster excitement for "Afterlife". Whether they want to admit it or not, the fanbase of the series really irreparably damaged their image five years ago.

Wrong. The GB2016 movie is the only thing that caused irreparable damage to the franchise. The GB fans were defecated on by Paul Feig and Sony with the franchise-destroying GB2016, a movie that no one asked for or wanted. The fans were treated like garbage. They deserve great respect for fighting so hard against the GB2016 abomination and trying to save the franchise from total destruction, despite being ignored by completely out-of-touch executives and a disrespectful director.

The series now has a chance at redemption by the original director and his son. This is a time to celebrate and be hopeful. God bless the fans for trying so hard to stop Sony from ruining the series and for never giving up hope that it could be saved with a proper sequel. GB2016 did so much colossal damage to the brand name that it may be too late, but at least the fans will have one more visit to the universe we spent years loving as kids after a 32-year cinematic hiatus.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by JediJones77

Please don't talk about that movie in this thread. It's totally off-topic and has nothing to do with the Ghostbusters universe of GB1, GB2 and Afterlife. Here is the thread for the 2016 remake:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...sters&page=334

Originally Posted by JediJones77

Wrong. The GB2016 movie is the only thing that caused irreparable damage to the franchise. The GB fans were defecated on by Paul Feig and Sony with the franchise-destroying GB2016, a movie that no one asked for or wanted. The fans were treated like garbage. They deserve great respect for fighting so hard against the GB2016 abomination and trying to save the franchise from total destruction, despite being ignored by completely out-of-touch executives and a disrespectful director.

The series now has a chance at redemption by the original director and his son. This is a time to celebrate and be hopeful. God bless the fans for trying so hard to stop Sony from ruining the series and for never giving up hope that it could be saved with a proper sequel. GB2016 did so much colossal damage that it may be too late, but at least the fans will have one last visit to the universe we spent years loving as kids.

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[Himmel]

Screen Media announced today they’ll be bringing an extended version of the definitive Ghostbusters doc, Cleanin’ Up the Town: Remembering Ghostbusters, to theaters and VOD platforms this October.

The documentary recounts the story behind the cult 1984 comedy that starred Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, Ernie Hudson, Sigourney Weaver and Ivan Reitman.

Anthony Bueno directs the feature doc, which was produced by Claire Bueno, Derek Osborn and Hank Starrs, reported ScreenDaily when originally announced. They added that it features 46 interviews with cast and crew alongside never-before-seen archive material.

It will screen in limited theaters on October 1st and on VOD platforms October 5th. π

[Himmel]

http://youtu.be/iYHe-I_jEkc

[shane01]

Originally Posted by JediJones77

It is not a reboot. It's a sequel. Read this article if you're confused about the definition of the terms:

https://www.vox.com/2015/9/16/933712...s-reimaginings

"A reboot resets the continuity of an established film series"

"The term reboot should be reserved for film properties that have extended beyond a single movie and have thus established a continuity that the subsequent reboot throws out in favor of a new status quo.".

Aside from the silliness of your recounting the battle of freaking Ghostbusters fans vs. Sony like it’s some Gettysburg-level legend in your post, I am thanking your for reminding the world about the difference between reboot and revival. I drive my wife nuts (jokingly) correcting her any time she refers to a revival as a reboot. Saved by the Bell (2020) is a sequel series to Saved by the Bell (1989), …And Just Like That is a sequel miniseries to Sex and the City/SATC 2. Magnum P.I. (2018), MacGyver (2016), Walker are reboots of the properties!

Originally Posted by JediJones77

The fans were treated like garbage. They deserve great respect for fighting so hard against the GB2016 abomination and trying to save the franchise from total destruction

Just LOL

[postmodel]

I am sure not everyone will agree with this, but, in the end, fan expectation does not matter. I have been drowning in the world of Ghostbusters since I was a baby. I never strayed from my love and my "fandom" and all I want from this new movie is the movie to be good and to see the original guys suit up, or at least show up, one last time. If these are met, I will be more than happy with Afterlife, but then there will be those saying "it's not funny enough" "where's the humor?" "too much CGI" "not enough of the original cast" "Too much like Stranger Things" "too reference heavy to the original" "not enough reference to the original" et cetera...et cetera...

Not everyone will be happy with this film, but one solid fact is this franchise will not be ruined. GB16 didn't ruin the franchise, it didn't make the original films disappear, and if you feel like it did, that's a you problem.

I am more concerned with the constant delays, which while i understand is nonetheless still frustrating. I just can't wait to see this film!

[JediJones77]

You can definitely ruin a franchise with too many bad movies. Look what happened to the Terminator franchise. We don't yet know if GB2016 ruined the reputation badly enough that the franchise can't recover. There are some warning signs out there. Some people in YouTube comments on the trailer that say it looks good but they just don't trust the studio to do the movie right anymore after GB2016.

[postmodel]

Originally Posted by JediJones77

You can definitely ruin a franchise with too many bad movies. Look what happened to the Terminator franchise. We don't yet know if GB2016 ruined the reputation badly enough that the franchise can't recover. There are some warning signs out there. Some people in YouTube comments on the trailer that say it looks good but they just don't trust the studio to do the movie right anymore after GB2016.

Well, I personally don't feel 1, 2, and the various cartoon series have been ruined, which are all a part of the GB franchise. And while I get what you are trying to say, bad movies do not ruin the other movies. I guess I should add "in my opinion" an entire franchise is not ruined cause of a bad run. I still thoroughly enjoy some Terminator films, no one says you have to love them all.

And what people are commenting on YouTube goes into my comment about fan expectations, we all want different things so it doesn't truly matter in the end what is released, cause some will love and some will hate all while claiming to be "true fans". I personally have more faith in Jason Reitman being able to do his thing with this film. I believe I read that it's a modest budget compared to GB16 and Ivan Reitman isn't being shunned this time around and thier creative approach is different compared to what was done the last time.

[gkolb]

Sony has adjusted the release date for this back to Nov 19, 2021 after Top Gun: Maverick freed up the date.

It’ll allow GB more premium screens like IMAX, etc.

[JediJones77]

Yeah, I don't mean it ruined the old movies. I mean the viability of the franchise to make new movies could be ruined. Terminator: Dark Fate got much better reviews than Genisys but still made far less money, because the public just lost all faith in any future projects.

[Wildcat2000]

But how many popular franchises have actually had their viability/future ruined from bad or underperforming movies?

I guarantee there will be another Terminator movie. The Animated Netflix series is probably a way to try different things without needing to make a big budget movie for awhile.

GB’16 did not do irreparable damage. If this was true there would be no GBA.

GB’16 is over with but people just like hating on it. I personally liked it just fine but Afterlife is the right direction and the kind of movie we should have gotten a long time ago.

My point is popular franchises endure.

[JediJones77]

I haven't heard a lot of confidence in there being another Terminator movie. It's pretty much the norm that franchises peter out after bad sequels. After something like Batman & Robin, it can take many years to try and relaunch the series. There's always skepticism and usually lower grosses when you do. You have to hope you make a really good movie and word-of-mouth builds it up on home video. Terminator is probably on a 10-year hiatus at least before they try again. And I'd guess it'll be a total reboot without Arnold, and probably more of the original's low-budget horror/stalker vibe.

[Wildcat2000]

Originally Posted by JediJones77

I haven't heard a lot of confidence in there being another Terminator movie. It's pretty much the norm that franchises peter out after bad sequels. After something like Batman & Robin, it can take many years to try and relaunch the series. There's always skepticism and usually lower grosses when you do. You have to hope you make a really good movie and word-of-mouth builds it up on home video. Terminator is probably on a 10-year hiatus at least before they try again. And I'd guess it'll be a total reboot without Arnold, and probably more of the original's low-budget horror/stalker vibe.

That is exactly what people were saying about GB in 2016.

I think some probably thought that after Genisys too.

Some franchises go through longer hiatuses than others but people overdramatize the impact of bad/unsuccessful movies. I mean I agree they don’t help but they don’t crush a franchise the way people think.

[BluCollector13]

Originally Posted by JediJones77

Wrong. The GB2016 movie is the only thing that caused irreparable damage to the franchise. The GB fans were defecated on by Paul Feig and Sony with the franchise-destroying GB2016, a movie that no one asked for or wanted. The fans were treated like garbage. They deserve great respect for fighting so hard against the GB2016 abomination and trying to save the franchise from total destruction, despite being ignored by completely out-of-touch executives and a disrespectful director.

The series now has a chance at redemption by the original director and his son. This is a time to celebrate and be hopeful. God bless the fans for trying so hard to stop Sony from ruining the series and for never giving up hope that it could be saved with a proper sequel. GB2016 did so much colossal damage to the brand name that it may be too late, but at least the fans will have one more visit to the universe we spent years loving as kids after a 32-year cinematic hiatus.

Oh. My. God.

Five years later and you petulant scumbags STILL think you're the victims. It would be a hilarious punchline if it wasn't the culmination of such a pathetic joke.

Let's rewind the clocks back to a time before 2016 when the IMDb boards were still an unfortunate thing. If the boards were archived, anyone would see the YEARS of toxicity that was already being built up against the film from the moment Feig was announced as a filmmaker, the moment the main cast was announced, the moment returning actors from the original films confirmed cameos that weren't gonna be the original roles. Oh, I remember those days quite clearly. The death threats against Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones. The constant harassing of Paul Feig on Twitter as if it were some kind of metal. He made the movie he wanted to and you all still stayed, rutting about in your own filth thinking anything you had to say mattered. No one was able to have a rational conversation. It was just the stench of embarrassment. And look what happened to IMDb because of it.

You people were NEVER going to give the new one a chance and the more you got called out for it, the worse you doubled down. You are not victims. You are perpetrators of your own arrogance and any negativity shown towards "Ghostbusters" as a whole is because of it. As fans, you aren't owed a goddamn thing by anyone making movies and things like "The Rise of Skywalker" are what happens when the parasitic fanbase are given too much of a voice when they are best to have their tongues cut out.

So, long story short: It wasn't "Ghostbusters" '16.

It was you and it will always be you.

[CreasyBear]

Paul Feig made a shitty movie. The world dealt with it and promptly forgot it existed. The end. Period. Fin.

Move on.

[BluCollector13]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

Paul Feig made a shitty movie. The world dealt with it and promptly forgot it existed. The end. Period. Fin.

Move on.

Clearly people didn't forget it if it's still being so violently debated five years later.

But that's the thing with fanbases. All mouth, no accountability.

[BluBonnet]

For my money still the best movie in the series since the original....

[Jennifer Lawrence Fan]