Official Terminator Thread

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by GGX

Or its just a plot hole.

You still haven't explained what you mean. We're trying to figure out what you mean by making those posts, but it would be so much easier if you just explain.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by GGX

Oh and can anybody tell me why they were using ordinary ballistic weapons? All the depictions of the future war in the previous movies showed laser weapons.

Already been answered:

Originally Posted by starkent08

ash and other people that dont get it the flashbacks in the other movies r much later then 2018 they prob would have more weapons in the beginning they would decrease as the war progressed ive heard people say why reg guns gees people its 2018 im sure skynet built them just not yet the resistance im sure scavenged them

Originally Posted by DVDave

Skynet has yet to develop plasma weapons. I'm sure skynet realizes that chemical projectile ammo is inefficient as a resource and is developing the 40 watt phased plasma rifles for the T-800 and will integrate plasma technology weapons into their aerial HK's and tanks in the next film.

Although I thought the Gatherer was shooting plasma bursts at the cars as they would try to escape (early developmental stages).

[BirdManJr]

Out of all the terminators this would probably be the least liked one to me.

I did like it tho..good action.

Didnt the resistance use dogs to help them? Like the dogs had a sense of where the terminators were at.

And it sure seemed like it was easy to defeat the terminators and the giant robots and the motorcycles. The resistance i thought was suppose to be a group of soldiers like in the movie aliens....But it seems they cant remake a movie like that with all this new high tech stuff out now these days.

Arnold coming out at the end was cool..wouldve been better if he had some lines...

I dunno..just seemed like in the older movies just one terminator was good enough...but in this one the terminators was so easy to beat.
I liked the terminator from T2 the best tho...I think T2 is the best terminator out.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by GGX

Or its just a plot hole.

Oh and can anybody tell me why they were using ordinary ballistic weapons? All the depictions of the future war in the previous movies showed laser weapons.

wheres your justification for thinking its a plot hole?
do you want them take your hand and lead you through every little thing that connor should remember?
do you want them to tell you each thing he is thinking?
how would he NOT remember it?

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by BirdManJr

Out of all the terminators this would probably be the least liked one to me.

I did like it tho..good action.

Didnt the resistance use dogs to help them? Like the dogs had a sense of where the terminators were at.

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And it sure seemed like it was easy to defeat the terminators and the giant robots and the motorcycles. The resistance i thought was suppose to be a group of soldiers like in the movie aliens....But it seems they cant remake a movie like that with all this new high tech stuff out now these days.

Arnold coming out at the end was cool..wouldve been better if he had some lines...

I dunno..just seemed like in the older movies just one terminator was good enough...but in this one the terminators was so easy to beat.
I liked the terminator from T2 the best tho...I think T2 is the best terminator out.

The dogs helped them sniff out the terminators that had human skin on them. Since Skynet wasn't there yet, they obviously don't need the dogs...yet.

Remember how

[Show spoiler]badass the Arnold Terminator was at the end of the movie? That was the machine's first advanced Terminator. All the others were rudimentary. Reese talks about this in T1 in describing the Terminators that came before the one's that had flesh. These were slower Terminators. Not as effective.

Birdman Jr, please add spoiler tags to your original post.

[starkent08]

the t800 was a prototype and the start using dogs when the term were more human sure marcus was like that but he was a suprise an unknown

[Diesel]

i think if one of the resistance members didn't see the metal skeleton walking down the road and know it was a terminator, then that guy shouldn't be part of the resistance

[BirdManJr]

Originally Posted by DVDave

Well in 1984 they don't really stand a chance. Kyle is trying to blow it up with homemade pipe bombs and C4.

Sarah: "Can you stop it?"

Kyle: "I don't know. With these weapons? I don't know."

Maybe i missed it but how do they time travel?
i seen them in the old terminators when they get there...but it never showed how they travel back?????

and when kyle came back in the first terminator other than being put on the spot...he couldve found weapons similar to what he had in salvation..he didnt have anything fancy...But terminator seemed more real than salvation..salvation just seemed like a new age action flick with explosions and bad quotes like..."2 day old coyote...better than 3 day old coyote" LOL.

it was good...just cant top the older ones IMO.

[starkent08]

they get harder to beat im sure as the war goes on

[BirdManJr]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

The dogs helped them sniff out the terminators that had human skin on them. Since Skynet wasn't there yet, they obviously don't need the dogs...yet.

Remember how

[Show spoiler]badass the Arnold Terminator was at the end of the movie? That was the machine's first advanced Terminator. All the others were rudimentary. Reese talks about this in T1 in describing the Terminators that came before the one's that had flesh. These were slower Terminators. Not as effective.

Birdman Jr, please add spoiler tags to your original post.

sorry i figured if anyone clicked on a i saw terminator salvation thread they would expect to see spoilers????

And how did they have terminators that were slow and not effective...yet they had the smart motorcycles...the robot snake things...the big space ships...and that big robot that had all the guns and was picking up people??
its like they had less advanced terminators...but highly advanced everything else.

[starkent08]

no one cac comprehend what they watch time travl wasnt discovered till 2029 the movies 2018

[GreenScar]

[Show spoiler]Remember that in T4 Connor unloaded heavy rounds into the Arnold T-800 and he just kept coming? Like that.

[starkent08]

why dont u ask skynet lol its called evolution skynet is less then a quarter cenury old

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by BirdManJr

sorry i figured if anyone clicked on a i saw terminator salvation thread they would expect to see spoilers????

And how did they have terminators that were slow and not effective...yet they had the smart motorcycles...the robot snake things...the big space ships...and that big robot that had all the guns and was picking up people??
its like they had less advanced terminators...but highly advanced everything else.

well the motorcycles weren't exactly brilliant, connor tripped one with a rope afterall
they were just quick and can react fast
the snakes weren't that intelligent, jump and bite, jump and bite, jump and bite
the ships basically shot and well shot some more

the harvester was probably the smartest of the machines they had
but look how freaking big it was

i'm assuming it was tough to make the smaller versions (the t-600 and so forth) as smart in a compact frame?

Originally Posted by starkent08

why dont u ask skynet lol its called evolution skynet is less then a quarter cenury old

yea, you have to remember skynet is still learning and growing
the T-850 states it grows and learns at a geometric rate, in time it will figure out time travel and lasers and all the stuff from 2029

[starkent08]

as the humans evolve tactically so does skynet terminator salvation iis just the beginning

[BirdManJr]

Originally Posted by DVDave

Yup. It wasn't until the T-800 Infiltration units started appearing that they began using dogs to spot Terminators. I think that's the problem people are having with this film is that they are trying to connect every piece of the puzzle in this film and it's not meeting their expectations. Give it time people. This is the first film. Have patience.

I loved the film!....just saying..it seemed the resistance had more weapons and was more well trained as a group then i thought they would be..i was thinking just random civilianz and soldiers spread out in hiding...

and like i said...huge robots...huge space ships...the robot snake things....But less advanced terminators? making those skeleton terminators with skin over them should have been easier....the only exception being the guy that was half robot half human.....and he is the only one they made like that to my knowlege.

[starkent08]

therss two more movies coming

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by BirdManJr

I loved the film!....just saying..it seemed the resistance had more weapons and was more well trained as a group then i thought they would be..i was thinking just random civilianz and soldiers spread out in hiding...

and like i said...huge robots...huge space ships...the robot snake things....But less advanced terminators? making those skeleton terminators with skin over them should have been easier....the only exception being the guy that was half robot half human.....and he is the only one they made like that to my knowlege.

well thats probably how it was at first, the soldiers and civilians spread out
but after 14 years of fighting i assume the soldiers that were left trained the civilians and everyone became soldiers basically, and the military that was left organized over the course of that decade and a half

marcus was a prototype was he not?
so the info on him is going to lead the way to the skin on the robots like the t-800 i assume


edit: we're not trying to bust your chops btw incase it came across that way, we're just trying to counterpoint your statements

[starkent08]

so ur saying soldiers say if they survived jud day cant organize and fight

[matthewrounds]

1. People should avoid threads like these until they have seen the movie. If I had read what is here and what I am reading for the most part is the thoughts of people who are die-hards of the Terminator films and hence whose opinion would strongly encourage or discourage a viewing. In this case, reading through the last 60 or so posts, people are not exactly blown away by the movie and if I came here first I would potentially have skipped the film. Instead I went and enjoyed this movie.

2. This will look awesome on blu-ray and I am very happy about that. I hope the audio track is top notch!