Halloween Kills 4K UHD (2021)

[Chie Satonaka]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

It’s revealed in Resurrection that she didn’t actually kill Michael in H20. She killed an innocent man. They could’ve done a sequel to Resurrection since we don’t actually witness Laurie dying for certain. She just got stabbed and fell in some trees so they could’ve easily brought her back if they wanted to. It would’ve been incredibly stupid, but still possible.

Why would Michael stop pursuing her in Ressurection if she survived, she very clearly died. I'm also not going to count a retcon from Ressuection against H20. As far as that movie is concerned she killed Michael.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka

Why would Michael stop pursuing her in Ressurection if she survived, she very clearly died. I'm also not going to count a retcon from Ressuection against H20. As far as that movie is concerned she killed Michael.

He could’ve just assumed she died. A similar scene happens in Halloween 2018 when Michael stabs Laurie and throws her off the balcony.

[bratpack]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

He could’ve just assumed she died. A similar scene happens in Halloween 2018 when Michael stabs Laurie and throws her off the balcony.

The problem is nobody gives two F--k's about Resurrection. Everyone and there mother loves and knows the first 1978 movie whos gonna watch a reboot sequel and think oh yes I remember her dying in resurrection outside of horror fans and hardcore Halloween fans the movies like it or not still need to appeal to a wide casual audience aswell as the horror fanbase.

Resurrection is a disaster on every level a sequel to that movie is never gonna work aswell as a sequel to the 1978 movie that movie is clean and simple to follow up with no baggage and lots of potential to be mined for material which they've done with kills

with Resurrection you have to explain Laurie's supposed death, what's Michael being doing the past 18 years ,where's the josh Harnett Character, why was she in a mental institution etc then people that cant fully remember H20 and didn't see resurrection will be thinking didn't she behead him lol nobody remembers resurrection

[msb1428]

While I liked Halloween KIllS overall. The ONE thing that irks the shit out of me and stands out like a sore thumb is when Loomis says "Is it MYHACAL..DID HE KILL AGGAIN"..like WHAT???? Just the way the line is delivered and spoken seems so jarring...Like NO SHIT Loomis. IT was just so odd for that character and came out of no where.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by msb1428

While I liked Halloween KIllS overall. The ONE thing that irks the shit out of me and stands out like a sore thumb is when Loomis says "Is it MYHACAL..DID HE KILL AGGAIN"..like WHAT???? Just the way the line is delivered and spoken seems so jarring...Like NO SHIT Loomis. IT was just so odd for that character and came out of no where.

Cringe AF.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by msb1428

While I liked Halloween KIllS overall. The ONE thing that irks the shit out of me and stands out like a sore thumb is when Loomis says "Is it MYHACAL..DID HE KILL AGGAIN"..like WHAT???? Just the way the line is delivered and spoken seems so jarring...Like NO SHIT Loomis. IT was just so odd for that character and came out of no where.

There’s a lot of dialogue like that in this movie. Like when Brackett tells Michael that everyone’s entitled to one good scare. That’s a strange thing to say to the man who murdered his daughter. That was just an innocent line he said to Laurie forty years ago. He remembers saying it back then and decides to repeat it to Michael?

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

There’s a lot of dialogue like that in this movie. Like when Brackett tells Michael that everyone’s entitled to one good scare. That’s a strange thing to say to the man who murdered his daughter. That was just an innocent line he said to Laurie forty years ago. He remembers saying it back then and decides to repeat it to Michael?

Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure Michael

[Show spoiler]was scared himself when revealed he was trapped by the mob.

[gates70]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

There’s a lot of dialogue like that in this movie. Like when Brackett tells Michael that everyone’s entitled to one good scare. That’s a strange thing to say to the man who murdered his daughter. That was just an innocent line he said to Laurie forty years ago. He remembers saying it back then and decides to repeat it to Michael?

I think every movie in this series has one cringe worthy line. The first movie it was "You can rip my clothes off, I can rip your clothes off, then we can rip Lindsay's clothes off" or something to that effect. She's like 12.

[Law212]

Originally Posted by gates70

I think every movie in this series has one cringe worthy line. The first movie it was "You can rip my clothes off, I can rip your clothes off, then we can rip Lindsay's clothes off" or something to that effect. She's like 12.

Ya that wasnt cringey it was jarring. When I watched the movie previous times I didnt get that the little girl was lindsay, for some reason I thought it was another of their female friends. But watching it the other week it hit me.

[Sman]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

There’s a lot of dialogue like that in this movie. Like when Brackett tells Michael that everyone’s entitled to one good scare. That’s a strange thing to say to the man who murdered his daughter. That was just an innocent line he said to Laurie forty years ago. He remembers saying it back then and decides to repeat it to Michael?

I just go with it being a saying Brackett had used a number of times. Maybe not as much since the death of his daughter on Halloween, but still.

[eledoremassis02]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

There’s a lot of dialogue like that in this movie. Like when Brackett tells Michael that everyone’s entitled to one good scare. That’s a strange thing to say to the man who murdered his daughter. That was just an innocent line he said to Laurie forty years ago. He remembers saying it back then and decides to repeat it to Michael?

It's fan service. It's one of my biggest issues with alot of these franchise revivals. A good portion of them are now about fan-nostalgia (which can be fine if done right).

I don't mind eastereggs and callbacks but they've gotten outta hand and can take away from the story ala Brackett line. If he said that to Laurie *in context* it would of been fine but it's just another "10 things you didn't know about Halloween Kills" moment that alot of films are guilty of.

Originally Posted by Law212

Again, I loved this movie. It entertained the hell out of me and i was into it from start to finish.

I think one issue with is that many people watch movies today as a critic. They want to find details to nitpick at so they can do some kind of review . instead of just watching it just to watch a movie, they watch it to deconstruct it and that doesnt let the movie engross you. IMO.

Also, probably doesnt apply to anyone here, but many people and by their own admission watch these movies on a phone or ipad and there is no way you can really appreciate any movie in that way.

Thats true, espeshally on specialized forums such as this. For me, Halloween Kills had a Spider-Man 3 moment, where I went in with a clean slate (wasnt the biggest fan of 2018). The more I thought about it the more I didnt like kills (it actually have me more of an appreciation for 2018).

I think you can appreciate a film on a ipad (phones, I feel, are better off on rewatches when youre too lazy to get somthing bigger). Heck, many of us enjoyed films cropped, zoomed and fuzzy on CRTs and VHS for decades and missed out on proper framing or hidden details that didnt come back until DVD or even Bluray (Back to the fututre franchise comes to mind). Kills, to me, isnt a particulary deep movie. It's a Horror popcorn flick but it's far from the worst in the franchise.

[Law212]

Originally Posted by eledoremassis02

It's fan service. It's one of my biggest issues with alot of these franchise revivals. A good portion of them are now about fan-nostalgia (which can be fine if done right).

I don't mind eastereggs and callbacks but they've gotten outta hand and can take away from the story ala Brackett line. If he said that to Laurie *in context* it would of been fine but it's just another "10 things you didn't know about Halloween Kills" moment that alot of films are guilty of.

Kind of another thing that makes a movie fun. IMO.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka

Why would Michael stop pursuing her in Ressurection if she survived, she very clearly died. I'm also not going to count a retcon from Ressuection against H20. As far as that movie is concerned she killed Michael.

Also as she steals the ambulance there’s an extra shot of the truck Michael came to the school in, letting you know he’s alive and even had a ride. Also Mike has never attempted to remove his mask in any other movie. She definitely doesn’t kill Michael at the end.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by plissken99

Also as she steals the ambulance there’s an extra shot of the truck Michael came to the school in, letting you know he’s alive and even had a ride. Also Mike has never attempted to remove his mask in any other movie. She definitely doesn’t kill Michael at the end.

Michael has removed his mask two other times in the series. In Halloween 5 he removed it to put on the mask Tina’s boyfriend was wearing. When he takes that mask off you see him picking up his white mask. In the producer’s cut of Halloween 6 he put the mask on Dr. Wynn and wore Wynn’s cowboy hat.

Edit: He removes his mask a second time in H5 when Jamie says “Uncle, let me see” and a tear drop falls from his eye.

[plissken99]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Michael has removed his mask two other times in the series. In Halloween 5 he removed it to put on the mask Tina’s boyfriend was wearing. When he takes that mask off you see him picking up his white mask. In the producer’s cut of Halloween 6 he put the mask on Dr. Wynn and wore Wynn’s cowboy hat.

Edit: He removes his mask a second time in H5 when Jamie says “Uncle, let me see” and a tear drop falls from his eye.

I stand corrected. Still, much as I don’t give a shit about Resurrections existence, she didn’t get him in H20.. it’s all Ll’s fault.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by plissken99

I stand corrected. Still, much as I don’t give a shit about Resurrections existence, she didn’t get him in H20.. it’s all Ll’s fault.

Actually he took his mask off a fourth time if we consider that he put it on a paramedic. But I think it’s safe to say that Michael never tried to take his mask off the way “he” did at the end of H20. I’m kind of surprised they left that in since the goal was to make everyone think Myers was dead until the sequel. I guess it worked though, because the way he was brought back is laughable and pretty unimaginable.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka

I'm also not going to count a retcon from Ressuection against H20. As far as that movie is concerned she killed Michael.

That was always the plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=r4eYOczcN7I&feature=emb_title