My new sound setup confusion

[Blu-Curry]

I believe i have figured out my problem (again, i will not know for sure until my bulb is replaced).

I have HDMI doing both my picture and sound settings on my PS3. I am guessing that i should instead do the Optical cord for sound and manually so i can check off DTS.

Now i have another question. What is the deal with PCM and how do i know if i can do it? I'm not sure, but i think the Optical cord cannot do PCM 5.1 on the PS3.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

I believe i have figured out my problem (again, i will not know for sure until my bulb is replaced).

I have HDMI doing both my picture and sound settings on my PS3. I am guessing that i should instead do the Optical cord for sound and manually so i can check off DTS.

Now i have another question. What is the deal with PCM and how do i know if i can do it? I'm not sure, but i think the Optical cord cannot do PCM 5.1 on the PS3.

Are you sure of your receivers model number? I'm looking at the manual for the NAD T762 and it has no HDMI inputs. Do you mean you have HDMI going to your tv and optical going to your receiver?

For the ps3 go into your setup and go to audio and select HDMI, manual, uncheck everything you can, select enter.

then select optical, check everything that is not already checked, select enter.
that should do it.

I see you have 2 HDMI ports & 2 component ports on your TV. I'll gather you have one HDMI from the ps3 and you should use the S-video from the cable box to the receiver, that will give you the best picture you can get until you get an HD box from the cable company. I would recommend you buy an S-video cable and connect that (if your cable box supports it) and connect that from your cable box to your TV that will give you the best picture your box can give you. If you don't have S-video, and you have a yellow connector that says video (composite) use that and connect that to your TV, it's not as good as S-video but, it's better than the coax in that you would be using. also, select on your receiver the input that says "SAT" and assign the coax input that you have the cable box connected to. this way when watching cable you can select "SAT" on your receiver and get better sound, Dolby 2.0 or 5.1 when available through your sound system! Also, set your cable box to send sound out via that connector.

As for the LPCM, dont let that confuse you. It stands for Linear Pulse Code Modulation. For your purposes it means that your player (the ps3 or say a standalone blu-ray player) decodes the signal within itself (internally) then sends out the audio, decoded, (either DTHD or DTS-HD-MA) then sends it out as 5,6,or 7.1 channels (whatever it was) and you get the HD codec with the work already done ready to listen to. you must use the adapter to get the indvidual analog channels to put into your analog in 7.1 then you will hear HD audio. I hope you understand this and of course, I hope it's been helpfull.

Your not alone on the bulb issue, I had my lamp replaced this Friday past. It lasted 3 years and now, looks like a brand new set; the picture is incredible once again.

Unlike the "Sham-wow" guy, I can do this all day!

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

Are you sure of your receivers model number? I'm looking at the manual for the NAD T762 and it has no HDMI inputs. Do you mean you have HDMI going to your tv and optical going to your receiver?

For the ps3 go into your setup and go to audio and select HDMI, manual, uncheck everything you can, select enter.

then select optical, check everything that is not already checked, select enter.
that should do it.

I see you have 2 HDMI ports & 2 component ports on your TV. I'll gather you have one HDMI from the ps3 and you should use the S-video from the cable box to the receiver, that will give you the best picture you can get until you get an HD box from the cable company. I would recommend you buy an S-video cable and connect that (if your cable box supports it) and connect that from your cable box to your TV that will give you the best picture your box can give you. If you don't have S-video, and you have a yellow connector that says video (composite) use that and connect that to your TV, it's not as good as S-video but, it's better than the coax in that you would be using. also, select on your receiver the input that says "SAT" and assign the coax input that you have the cable box connected to. this way when watching cable you can select "SAT" on your receiver and get better sound, Dolby 2.0 or 5.1 when available through your sound system! Also, set your cable box to send sound out via that connector.

As for the LPCM, dont let that confuse you. It stands for Linear Pulse Code Modulation. For your purposes it means that your player (the ps3 or say a standalone blu-ray player) decodes the signal within itself (internally) then sends out the audio, decoded, (either DTHD or DTS-HD-MA) then sends it out as 5,6,or 7.1 channels (whatever it was) and you get the HD codec with the work already done ready to listen to. you must use the adapter to get the indvidual analog channels to put into your analog in 7.1 then you will hear HD audio. I hope you understand this and of course, I hope it's been helpfull.

Your not alone on the bulb issue, I had my lamp replaced this Friday past. It lasted 3 years and now, looks like a brand new set; the picture is incredible once again.

Unlike the "Sham-wow" guy, I can do this all day!

Oh, i have the HDMI going from my PS3 to my tv and the Optical from the PS3 to the receiver. If i remember correctly on my PS3 the video settings are done under HDMI (of course they are), but so are the sound settings. I understand now your solution to that problem! Although, is there a preference between Dolby Digital and DTS? Especially in the subwoofer department? lol

Yes, i do use a S-video cord with my cable box. I just checked my cable box connections and they are exactly how you have described them. So, there's no problem there!

So on this LPCM thing, i just want to clarify, after i go through the sound settings with Optical and check everything, if i popped Spider-Man 3 in and selected PCM 5.1, would the audio format work?

Thank you again for all your help! My bulb lasted almost 2.5 years. There's another question i've had for quite a while. If there's an audio format which states 7.1, that means up to 7.1 correct? If i don't have 7.1 but wanted to watch Narnia 2, would i still get the 5.1 audio?

(hahaha, the "Sham-wow" guy )

[SlmShdy1]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

Now i have another question. What is the deal with PCM and how do i know if i can do it? I'm not sure, but i think the Optical cord cannot do PCM 5.1 on the PS3.

If you're using your PS3 as your Blu-ray player, you'll probably want to stay away from Linear PCM while you're using an optical cable. If you're using the optical cable for audio (the best option in your case), you'd only be getting 2.0 channels of sound if you select Linear PCM. Now one day when you do happen to upgrade to a new receiver with HDMI inputs, that's when you'll want to select PCM. For now you'll want to set your Digital Optical Out to Bitstream.

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

So on this LPCM thing, i just want to clarify, after i go through the sound settings with Optical and check everything, if i popped Spider-Man 3 in and selected PCM 5.1, would the audio format work?

It would work but would only give you 2 channels of sound. You'll want to select either the Dolby or DTS tracks until you can upgrade to HDMI.

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

There's another question i've had for quite a while. If there's an audio format which states 7.1, that means up to 7.1 correct? If i don't have 7.1 but wanted to watch Narnia 2, would i still get the 5.1 audio?

You'll still get 5.1. The 7.1 mix will downmix into 5.1 so you'll still get everything that's supposed to be there.

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

If you're using your PS3 as your Blu-ray player, you'll probably want to stay away from Linear PCM while you're using an optical cable. If you're using the optical cable for audio (the best option in your case), you'd only be getting 2.0 channels of sound if you select Linear PCM. Now one day when you do happen to upgrade to a new receiver with HDMI inputs, that's when you'll want to select PCM. For now you'll want to set your Digital Optical Out to Bitstream.


It would work but would only give you 2 channels of sound. You'll want to select either the Dolby or DTS tracks until you can upgrade to HDMI.


You'll still get 5.1. The 7.1 mix will downmix into 5.1 so you'll still get everything that's supposed to be there.

Ah, thank you for clearing all of that up for me.

Once my bulb is replaced i'll make sure everything works. Thanks again to everyone who has helped me out!

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

Oh, i have the HDMI going from my PS3 to my tv and the Optical from the PS3 to the receiver. If i remember correctly on my PS3 the video settings are done under HDMI (of course they are), but so are the sound settings. I understand now your solution to that problem! Although, is there a preference between Dolby Digital and DTS? Especially in the subwoofer department? lol
DTS has more information than DD. it is usually heavier in the LFE (bass) information so you can expect a deeper, richer experience than with just DD. you can't get DTS if the medium is recorded only in DD. there must be a DTS option in the menu of the movie or game.

Yes, i do use a S-video cord with my cable box. I just checked my cable box connections and they are exactly how you have described them. So, there's no problem there!

So on this LPCM thing, i just want to clarify, after i go through the sound settings with Optical and check everything, if i popped Spider-Man 3 in and selected PCM 5.1, would the audio format work?
no matter what you select in the ps3, it will be decoded and sent out via the optical port. You can't get HD codecs via the optical so you will only get DD or DTS core. You will get good sound but not HD sound, you would need to get that adapter to get the True HD sound. don't get me wrong, DD & DTS sound good to.

Thank you again for all your help! My bulb lasted almost 2.5 years. There's another question i've had for quite a while. If there's an audio format which states 7.1, that means up to 7.1 correct? If i don't have 7.1 but wanted to watch Narnia 2, would i still get the 5.1 audio?
you will only get 5.1 if you only have a 5.1 system. if you have a 7.1 system, with only 5.1 speakers connected you will still only get 5.1 and you will not hear the missing two channels. some receivers can be set-up to downmix the 7.1 to 5.1. in most instances the player will ask you if you have 5 or 7.1 and if you say 5.1, it will automatically downmix 7.1 into 5.1 don't know if that is the case with the ps3 you'll have to check into that yourself. i have 7.1 so i don't worry about such things, sorry!

(hahaha, the "Sham-wow" guy )

all of this writing, i think if we ever meet you owe me a cold one!

[Beta Man]

lack of HDMI aside...... You have a very nice, and under-appreciated AVR.

[SlmShdy1]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

lack of HDMI aside...... You have a very nice, and under-appreciated AVR.

With that being said, you might want to consider getting the analog multichannel accessory for the PS3. It's an easy and cheap way to get HD sound with what you've already got. Or just buy a Blu-ray stand alone with analog outputs.

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

all of this writing, i think if we ever meet you owe me a cold one!

hahaha i'm only 16 (yet the tech guy of the family) so if a root beer can do then you got it! Thanks for the answers once again

Originally Posted by Beta Man

lack of HDMI aside...... You have a very nice, and under-appreciated AVR.

Thanks, i thought with all the new receivers out and all mine would automatically become "awful". But i now realize that i was wrong.

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

With that being said, you might want to consider getting the analog multichannel accessory for the PS3. It's an easy and cheap way to get HD sound with what you've already got. Or just buy a Blu-ray stand alone with analog outputs.

Hmmm, i'd probably get the accessory. So, is there an accessory specifically for the PS3 or is this another gizmo out there?