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Has anyone here listened to the commentary?
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Blu-ray Duke
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Blu-ray Samurai
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I got a friend to lend it to me and watching it in HDR10... I mean the picture is rampant with compression errors, especially with the chroma and the film grain. I can't believe some of you think it looks fine in HDR10. The errors show up in almost every single scene. If there is even a semblance of a solid color in a shot, the chances it has chroma errors is like 80% on this codec. The green splotches are almost everywhere (obviously, click on them to see them full size to see the compression errors):
![]() On her lab coat, the cabinets in the back. ![]() Almost anywhere here where there is a white object. ![]() On his banjo and some of the white portions of the dog. ![]() Here the street is littered with those green splotches. CLICK ON SPOILER TO SEE THE REST: [Show spoiler] Those green splotches (the chroma errors) are everywhere. And these screenshots are only from the first 15 minutes. And as you can also see, the grain in some of those is rough. And it is not much different actually watching in motion. Interestingly, the chroma is a little masked in motion, but the grain looks worse in motion than it does on the screenshots. The grain freezes sometimes, then it suddenly changes a few frames later (almost like it forgot to it was supposed to be different in every frame), sometimes it's completely gone, other times it looks clumpy... I mean the whole thing almost looks like I compressed it on YouTube. It is basically a complete disaster. If this was years ago when 4K/HDR was still a new thing at least there'd be a semblance of an excuse there. But we're well into it right now and we're still getting this crap. It's pretty unacceptable. And I'm amazed people are still trying to spend money on it and buy it. I shudder to think how The Great Escape and Dressed to Kill will look after seeing this. Now I wish Criterion would have done these on 4K instead as they seem to be doing a much better job with the format compared to Kino now. Oh the irony. Last edited by samlop10; 11-28-2021 at 01:52 PM. |
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Wow, those shots are bad, bad, bad. Inexcusable, really. It's like Kino and Shout and Studio Canal are all in a contest to see who can put out the worst UHDs (Though with titles like T2 and Grease, there's some good competition even by the bigger studios). Thankfully Vinegar Syndrome isn't interested in that game. But really, there's no excuse for this. Since Amazon still hasn't shipped out my pre-order, I'm considering cancelling my order based on those shots. I don't need to see it in motion to know the whole movie is crawling with those errors.
It's a shame, too, because the new master look stunning, just like the situation with Shout's Halloween UHDs. Great masters, horrible encodes. |
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#409 |
Blu-ray Samurai
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Thanks for the caps samlop, but could you please put them behind a spoiler tag? 25 2160p images take up quite a bit of space.
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And The future for Kino 4k had looked so bright after Mad Max. |
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I ordered it at DiabolikDVD now, along with some pre-order items. |
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KLI: But the professional reviewers said there were no chroma errors, so they don’t exist!
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