Refresh Rates on new Plasmas

[ObiTrentKenobi]

thanks for the responses...

what i've concluded from your answers, is that the "hz" rating on plasmas doesn't really matter because content is only in 60hz hz anyway, correct?

I already have a sweet panasonic plasma, and am super impressed with it. i just don't remember hearing anything at that time about the hz ratings like these numbers...

thanks!

[gtmorgan23]

the panny plasmas have the 600hz business written on the box solely because of the big lcd hz ordeal.

[that1guystudios]

Actually, I work at Best Buy, and you may not want to get the U1. Take a look at Panasonic's web site. It's buried in the fine print, but this Plasma can only display 1080p content, but it's lines of resolution are around 900. That means it's not a true 1080 display. The one that you want is the S1, it just came out a few weeks ago, and Best Buy has it on their website, but it isn't in stock yet.
The S1 keeps all of the same features and has an special screen coating that most panasonic plasmas have that keeps the glare down to a minimum. The U series is the first Panasonic plasma to not have an anti-glare coating. Take a look at your local store. Minor glare is one thing, but this is major glare.
The S1 should be $999 when it is finally released. The $100-200 premium is worth it.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by that1guypictures

Actually, I work at Best Buy, and you may not want to get the U1. Take a look at Panasonic's web site. It's buried in the fine print, but this Plasma can only display 1080p content, but it's lines of resolution are around 900. That means it's not a true 1080 display. The one that you want is the S1, it just came out a few weeks ago, and Best Buy has it on their website, but it isn't in stock yet.
The S1 keeps all of the same features and has an special screen coating that most panasonic plasmas have that keeps the glare down to a minimum. The U series is the first Panasonic plasma to not have an anti-glare coating. Take a look at your local store. Minor glare is one thing, but this is major glare.
The S1 should be $999 when it is finally released. The $100-200 premium is worth it.

Though I agree the S1 would be a better choice, your argument is really not an applicable one. They are talking about motion resolution, of which "most" sets today do not achieve 1080 lines. The 2009 Panasonic lines claims they all do, and I believe the Samsung 950 LCD does (at one specific motion enhancer setting), but most other sets fall way short, particularly LCDs. 900 lines of motion resolution is considered a top performer. See table linked below for the measured motion resolution of a good percentage of the 2008 FP sets.

http://hdguru.com/wp-content/uploads...-125-hdtvs.pdf

[that1guystudios]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Though I agree the S1 would be a better choice, your argument is really not an applicable one. They are talking about motion resolution, of which "most" sets today do not achieve 1080 lines. The 2009 Panasonic lines claims they all do, and I believe the Samsung 950 LCD does (at one specific motion enhancer setting), but most other sets fall way short, particularly LCDs. 900 lines of motion resolution is considered a top performer. See table linked below for the measured motion resolution of a good percentage of the 2008 FP sets.

http://hdguru.com/wp-content/uploads...-125-hdtvs.pdf

I didn't say what most other TV's do. I said the S1 DOES display all 1080p.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by that1guypictures

I didn't say what most other TV's do. I said the S1 DOES display all 1080p.

No, you stated that the op might want to stay away from the Pany, as it does not give a "true" 1080p picture, when in reality most sets do not display 1080 lines of motion resolution. The Pany he was considering would be an excellent choice for the $$ and should not be dismissed because of this.

Just trying to put your statement into the proper context.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by that1guypictures

Actually, I work at Best Buy, and you may not want to get the U1. Take a look at Panasonic's web site. It's buried in the fine print, but this Plasma can only display 1080p content, but it's lines of resolution are around 900. That means it's not a true 1080 display. The one that you want is the S1, it just came out a few weeks ago, and Best Buy has it on their website, but it isn't in stock yet.

Not quite - Panasonic is listing the motion resolution - in other words how many lines of a moving picture can be resolved.

Most CCFL-LCD sets score around 300~500 lines of motion resolution, but not many people would say they're not a "true 1080 display".

The Pioneer KURO sets score 880~920 motion resolution, just like the U1, but they're 1080p sets. Any set with a 1920x1080 progressive panel like the U1 is a true 1080p set. It will pass a 1080p bandwidth testing, displaying all 1920x1080 pixels of a static image.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Not quite - Panasonic is listing the motion resolution - in other words how many lines of a moving picture can be resolved.

Most CCFL-LCD sets score around 300~500 lines of motion resolution, but not many people would say they're not a "true 1080 display".

The Pioneer KURO sets score 880~920 motion resolution, just like the U1, but they're 1080p sets. Any set with a 1920x1080 progressive panel like the U1 is a true 1080p set. It will pass a 1080p bandwidth testing, displaying all 1920x1080 pixels of a static image.

Cool new AV and title, doby! I see you've really gotten into Roland's tale.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Cool new AV and title, doby! I see you've really gotten into Roland's tale.

Thanks!

Yeah, about 250 pages into Wolves of the Calla and showing no signs of slowing down. III-Wastelands has been my favourite book so far, but I did really enjoy Wizard and Glass immensely.

This is an AWESOME story, shaping up to be my favourite of all time.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Thanks!

Yeah, about 250 pages into Wolves of the Calla and showing no signs of slowing down. III-Wastelands has been my favourite book so far, but I did really enjoy Wizard and Glass immensely.

This is an AWESOME story, shaping up to be my favourite of all time.

III was good, but you aint seen nothin' yet! After 'Wolves', things get REAL interesting....

[Hammie]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

III was good, but you aint seen nothin' yet! After 'Wolves', things get REAL interesting....

Guys, I love the Gunslinger series. I wanted to name my son Roland, but the wife said "NO WAY!!!!"

[_kirk_]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

what i've concluded from your answers, is that the "hz" rating on plasmas doesn't really matter because content is only in 60hz hz anyway, correct?

Not entirely correct - Blu Ray movies can output 24p; to actually see the true 24fps of the source material, you'd need a refresh rate that is a multiple of 24 such as 48, 72 or 96Hz in order to not have the 24p converted back to 30 frames per second via 3:2 pulldown.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by _kirk_

Not entirely correct - Blu Ray movies can output 24p; to actually see the true 24fps of the source material, you'd need a refresh rate that is a multiple of 24 such as 48, 72 or 96Hz in order to not have the 24p converted back to 30 frames per second via 3:2 pulldown.

Kirk we wanna see pics of your V10!!!!

[_kirk_]

Here you go (got some interesting lens flare off the flash...)

[wafi]

Originally Posted by _kirk_

Here you go (got some interesting lens flare off the flash...)

Sweeet! Congrats mate!

[_kirk_]

I should take another picture of it set up on the stand with the updated speaker setup and the new A/V receiver.

It's a great room for it all - no windows, one light on the back wall with a dimmer switch. Color me very happy with my new gear