HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Near black has been iffy for OLED since the start. Will it be until the end?

Near black isn't a problem for the latest Sony OLEDs. It still remains a problem for LG OLED. However, most people don't care as long as they can game.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Synchg

o wow i thought he was trolling in the beginning of the vid with the talk of seeing more information like characters or items.

but towards the ends he legit favoring more picture information over video/audio bitrate.
yikes

so he didn't tell you what you wanted to hear?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I feel dumber having watched that.

When you're making the same conclusion as Films at Home that a low price is some kind of admission of lower quality then you've jumped the shark, big time. It's the most laziest form of clickbait journalism.

So did anyone have "Vincent doesn't quite get cinematography." on their 2021 Apocalypse BINGO! card?

I've literally heard similar stuff here from Screen Fillers Non-Anonymous™ when they open up 4:3 to 16:9, "Well in the 16:9 the lady in the crowds' face isn't cut in half ..."

Yes, they're neat and, yes, they should be on discs.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by chip75

So did anyone have "Vincent doesn't quite get cinematography." on their 2021 Apocalypse BINGO! card?

I've literally heard similar stuff here from Screen Fillers Non-Anonymous™ when they open up 4:3 to 16:9, "Well in the 16:9 the lady in the crowds' face isn't cut in half ..."

Yes, they're neat and, yes, they should be on discs.

I've had that on my HDTVtest bingo card ever since he started kvetching about "fake HDR".

[Nitroboy]

Considering how much he advocates calibrating a display to display the artist's true vision...

[BrownianMotion]

I don't see the issue with the aspect ratio portion of his video. It's not like those people who advocate zooming in to fill your entire screen, despite losing information. On the contrary, you're gaining additional information. I'm sure most people would be happy to have this on the disc.

However, I can't agree with his overall conclusion. The expanded aspect ratio wouldn't be enough for me to prefer the streaming version. I'll take the UHD disc any day.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

I don't see the issue with the aspect ratio portion of his video. It's not like those people who advocate zooming in to fill your entire screen, despite losing information. On the contrary, you're gaining additional information. I'm sure most people would be happy to have this on the disc.

However, I can't agree with his overall conclusion. The expanded aspect ratio wouldn't be enough for me to prefer the streaming version. I'll take the UHD disc any day.

Which is why Disney will keep releasing the scope version on disc. You're going to buy it anyway.

[Waboman]

Let the IMAX hate flow thru you. Good, good.

[I DO BLU]

5 TV Settings That Should be ILLEGAL (for Harming Picture Quality) - YouTube

[cuzzin]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Near black isn't a problem for the latest Sony OLEDs. It still remains a problem for LG OLED. However, most people don't care as long as they can game.

Well that's not true. But they do improve with every generation.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Nitroboy

Considering how much he advocates calibrating a display to display the artist's true vision...

Right? It's just the most bizarre paradox. At heart he's seemingly a screen-filler who doesn't care a fig for creative intent if it's not what he wants to see re: HDR grading.

[Member-425016]

"I've wined and dined with kings and queens, and slept in alleys and ate pork n beans"

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Right? It's just the most bizarre paradox. At heart he's seemingly a screen-filler who doesn't care a fig for creative intent if it's not what he wants to see re: HDR grading.

It’s ones man’s opinion.

In case you missed the video, Disney + offers you the choice of which aspect ratio you prefer. + Vincent didn’t just start & stop there. He also informed people that watching the IMAX versions over the alternative resulted in a higher HDR peak brightness in side by side comparisons.

Now you have to fill in the gaps to extend your video long enough to get “monetized” which clearly Vincent did by throwing in some “fluff” opinions on the state of UHD vs Stream.

[Sonam_Singh]

The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR. The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR.

[teddyballgame]

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by Sonam_Singh

The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR. The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Sonam_Singh

The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR. The extra pixels give 4K TVs the advantage when it comes to colors as well. They can achieve far more dynamic colors than 1080p TVs, and they can deliver deeper shadows too. It's also worth noting that 4K is the way to go if you're looking for special features like HDR.

I believe there’s a member here in the market for the new Beko LCD with built in DVD player. This will be good info for him.

[Penton-Man]

c’mon guys give him a break
in Pixels by Alvy - https://www.amazon.com/Alvy-Ray-Smit...00_abau_000000

something that most folks, even here, don’t realize - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEaBjcEaWkk#t=11m30s

Alvy’s flow chart a few minutes later on the birth of cinema is interesting as to dispelling other myths

[Geoff D]

Give who a break? The bot?

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

c’mon guys give him a break
in Pixels by Alvy - https://www.amazon.com/Alvy-Ray-Smit...00_abau_000000

something that most folks, even here, don’t realize - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEaBjcEaWkk#t=11m30s

Alvy’s flow chart a few minutes later on the birth of cinema is interesting as to dispelling other myths

Thanks for that YouTube link! I thoroughly enjoyed that, especially the early history lessons on the advent of computer graphics. Grew up with computers and been in IT for 21 years and had never heard much of that lineage.