I've had it with Millcreek

[50strat54]

First off again I want to say I'm happy with Mill Creek when it's cheap [like Ultraman steelbooks], stacked discs, poor QC etc. as someone posted it's a company that tries to sell movies on the cheap and you get what you pay for. If I have problems with a few episodes I'm not really upset I just try and fast forward or will go to the next episode. It's kind of the nature of the beast with discs.

Also different players play scratched discs differently. I will also move the disc to a different player. I will admit I will be pissed and annoyed when it happens but the feeling goes away after a few hours.

Discs get scratched, and there can be playback issues but I've found I've had very little issues with all of the DVDs, blurays and 4Ks I own. Sometimes you just have to let it go. All those DVDs that had issues? No one cares anymore!

Also I'm glad Mill Creek puts out some great titles like Quantum Leap Rockford Files, Miami Vice, the Ultraman series which is great stuff. So it may not be at Criterion quality but I'm glad someone put it out! Regardless of any QC issues I'm still just glad the title came out. Of course I also wait for it to go on sale!

In the 4K thread and other threads I keep reading about so many issues with the format. Freezing, skipping, little scratches that cause issues on the 4K disc. I read more problems with the format than bluray. Many posts have pointed out how fragile the 4K discs are. I am so glad that the big studios are still releasing the combo 4K with bluray so if there's a 4K issue and no replacement program or you are passed the return period you can say "oh well" and just put in the bluray. It's great to get a digital code too [which will be 4K]

I know 4K streaming is here to stay but I'm really wondering about the viability sometimes of 4K discs given all the issues I see in the 4K thread.

But I'm still going to buy 4K. I love to load up on BF like I did this year or when a title goes to $10 during the year which I why I keep my eye on the Deals and 4K thread.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by filmgenius89

Bad packaging i can deal with/ replace.

My issue is their awful compression... That's the far worse issue in my opinion.

Yeah I hate that awful compression...on their DVD sets!

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

So it may not be at Criterion quality but I'm glad someone put it out! Regardless of any QC issues I'm still just glad the title came out. Of course I also wait for it to go on sale!

Am I still in a thread about disc-damaging packaging?

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Am I still in a thread about disc-damaging packaging?

Kind of it's also a thread about why people hate Mill Creek or like myself trying to defend it a little bit

[SMOOT]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

I know 4K streaming is here to stay but I'm really wondering about the viability sometimes of 4K discs given all the issues I see in the 4K thread.

But I'm still going to buy 4K. I love to load up on BF like I did this year or when a title goes to $10 during the year which I why I keep my eye on the Deals and 4K thread.

I wonder about the viability as well. I want to see physical media continue to survive, and I hope that the tech people are working on a way to lessen these 4K disc playback issues that I read about.
While I have two 4K players, I have yet to purchase a 4K set (as my two HD televisions are working fine).

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

Kind of it's also a thread about why people hate Mill Creek or like myself trying to defend it a little bit

Most definitely. I was just trying to say boutique labels have their packaging snafus too.

[Zillamon51]

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case). Anytime I buy a disc in store, I check by shaking the case. If I get a floater in the mail, it goes right back unopened.

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

[Zillamon51]

Another pet peeve with Mill Creek: Releasing new movies on DVD only. It's mostly no-name, low budget stuff anyway, but almost every ad I see on FB for a new movie from MC is a DVD.

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

You’re right I thought I’d just throw in this 4K OT in to see if anybody wanted to weigh in.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case).

Then you need to buy more lottery tickets because this kind of luck is outrageous.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

The OP was complaining about Mill Creek's Parks & Rec release, but they aren't the company that released it, so I'm not sure what's irrelevant here at this point.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Mill Creek has their share of issues, but I honestly don't mind them and think the hate for them is particularly overblown. I've yet to have any issues with my Mill Creek titles (including their 'complete collection' DVD sets that use the weird cardboard paper sleeves instead of just being in a regular DVD case for whatever reason), and they've put out a few things that I was beginning to think would never get a release, including what's probably my favourite show of all time for less than a single season had cost on DVD.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Another pet peeve with Mill Creek: Releasing new movies on DVD only. It's mostly no-name, low budget stuff anyway, but almost every ad I see on FB for a new movie from MC is a DVD.

Or, similarly, when a show that was filmed and broadcast in HD is only given a DVD release, like they did with Franklin & Bash.

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

Or, similarly, when a show that was filmed and broadcast in HD is only given a DVD release, like they did with Franklin & Bash.

Like a lot of TV shows that start releasing DVD after some initial Blu-ray releases.

I’m wondering if everything was set to go with manufacturing a DVD set it was cancelled but a notice was sent out to the boutique companies that a DVD of Franklin and Bash could be licensed and Mill Creek said yes.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

I’m wondering if everything was set to go with manufacturing a DVD set it was cancelled but a notice was sent out to the boutique companies that a DVD of Franklin and Bash could be licensed and Mill Creek said yes.

I think Mill Creek probably just obtained the rights in a bulk purchase given the drastic differences between MC's first and second season discs compared to their existing stand-alone discs.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

Then you need to buy more lottery tickets because this kind of luck is outrageous.

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

Reply makes no sense.

We're not talking about what happens to the discs after we've opened them.

You said you've never bought a new factory-sealed movie and wound up with an already-scratched disc, which is either a bald-faced lie or you have frankly impossible luck.

I was being generous by suggesting the latter. I actually believe the former. It's just weird that someone would come on the internet and lie about something so inconsequential just to have something to argue about.

[wonkavision]

Well, Mill Creek put out The 10th Kingdom, so they really can't be that bad.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case). Anytime I buy a disc in store, I check by shaking the case. If I get a floater in the mail, it goes right back unopened.

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

I find this pretty much impossible to believe. I can't count the number of scratched discs I receive from all vendors and studios. Box sets, individual releases, stacked, non-stacked, sleeves, blu-ray, UHD, CDs, DVDs. Doesn't matter. Stacking increases the chances of damage without question, but I get tons of them even on individual hubs. If you aren't seeing scratches, you aren't looking. Or you're lying.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

I treat my discs with absolute care. They come straight out of the sealed case and under a light to check for damage, and there are often long scratches or areas of scuffing. Stop being condescending to people who actually notice that discs these days often arrive scratched.